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Post by brad on Sept 11, 2017 9:55:03 GMT -6
I do believe the most likely Time of the rapture will be on the Feast of trumpets soon, But Proverbs 3: 5-6 reminds us to trust in him, not our own understandings. It might be a good idea to start discussing some of these later date theories. With so many of us looking for fulfillment here in the next 12 days or so, we should be prepared for ANYTHING!  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 10:13:51 GMT -6
brad , I would add 10/4 (evening). This is the first day of the Feast of tabernacles. And actually this day will not be known until the feast of trumpets is known. Then the first day of tabernacles will be 14 days later. This holds water for this reason: the first day would be the birth, the last great day (which is the 8th day of the feast) would be the circumcision of the flesh and the reception of the new body. The law is to circumcise on the 8th day. Also, as far as I remember, the scriptures say that the Dead will rise first, then we those alive will be caught up in the air. So there could be a gap. Dead rise on trumpets, days of awe until atonement, then 1st of tabernacles birth, 8th of tabernacles circumcision. Also, there is a special message hidden in Jesus showing up in the middle of the tabernacles feast after telling his family he wasn't going. It wasn't yet his time, but then he went anyway. In the middle of tabernacles he appeared at the temple and preached, then on the last great day (8th day) was when he declared himself to be the living water. (John 7) There is something here that needs to be studied out.
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Post by advocate681 on Sept 11, 2017 10:13:58 GMT -6
I do believe the most likely Time of the rapture will be on the Feast of trumpets soon, But Proverbs 3: 5-6 reminds us to trust in him, not our own understandings. It might be a good idea to start discussing some of these later date theories. With so many of us looking for fulfillment here in the next 12 days or so, we should be prepared for ANYTHING! This is sweet, after watching spaghetti models for days now this is the loveliest yet! We can use our time wisely. Intercession is such a powerful and effective tool the Holy Spirit has given us. I pray not for more time because the Spirit can bring the lost to a saving knowledge in an instant. Apostle Paul is a great example. Join me in praying that the Lord will bring the lost to their knees, make them thirst for the Word and truth like a person in a hot desert. Make them hungry for salvation like someone starving in the middle of a famine. Make them look up and see only grace and mercy. Luke 18:15 create good soil with an abundance of seed! remove the heart of deceit/ stone and replace in them a heart of flesh, noble and good. The strongholds of the enemy are pulled down and Jesus has the victory. Amen |
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Post by Natalie on Sept 11, 2017 10:30:29 GMT -6
That's great! I love it. I am listening intently for that trumpet call home while trying to wake up my friends and family and while praying for the lost.
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Post by brad on Sept 11, 2017 10:33:56 GMT -6
brad , I would add 10/4 (evening). This is the first day of the Feast of tabernacles. And actually this day will not be known until the feast of trumpets is known. Then the first day of tabernacles will be 14 days later. This holds water for this reason: the first day would be the birth, the last great day (which is the 8th day of the feast) would be the circumcision of the flesh and the reception of the new body. The law is to circumcise on the 8th day. Also, as far as I remember, the scriptures say that the Dead will rise first, then we those alive will be caught up in the air. So there could be a gap. Dead rise on trumpets, days of awe until atonement, then 1st of tabernacles birth, 8th of tabernacles circumcision. Also, there is a special message hidden in Jesus showing up in the middle of the tabernacles feast after telling his family he wasn't going. It wasn't yet his time, but then he went anyway. In the middle of tabernacles he appeared at the temple and preached, then on the last great day (8th day) was when he declared himself to be the living water. (John 7) There is something here that needs to be studied out. Done silentknight! Also it is the exact day when Saturn completes it's triple conjunction at the base of Ophichus!  |
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Post by mike on Sept 11, 2017 11:06:02 GMT -6
brad I love this! I did laugh because after seeing so many of the Irma models, you got me! Thanks for your hard work to help all of us understand and spread the word that the time is near!
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Post by watchmanjim on Sept 11, 2017 11:11:53 GMT -6
I love spaghetti! Yum yum
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Post by AlwaysPraying on Sept 11, 2017 20:57:05 GMT -6
brad , I would add 10/4 (evening). This is the first day of the Feast of tabernacles. And actually this day will not be known until the feast of trumpets is known. Then the first day of tabernacles will be 14 days later. This holds water for this reason: the first day would be the birth, the last great day (which is the 8th day of the feast) would be the circumcision of the flesh and the reception of the new body. The law is to circumcise on the 8th day. Also, as far as I remember, the scriptures say that the Dead will rise first, then we those alive will be caught up in the air. So there could be a gap. Dead rise on trumpets, days of awe until atonement, then 1st of tabernacles birth, 8th of tabernacles circumcision. Also, there is a special message hidden in Jesus showing up in the middle of the tabernacles feast after telling his family he wasn't going. It wasn't yet his time, but then he went anyway. In the middle of tabernacles he appeared at the temple and preached, then on the last great day (8th day) was when he declared himself to be the living water. (John 7) There is something here that needs to be studied out. That's a really interesting point about Jesus not going up at the very beginning of the Feast of Tabernacles. Thanks for pointing this out! In John 7:6 Jesus told His brothers, when they mocked about His not going to appear before His disciples at the feast, that His time had not yet come. I always wondered how it could not be His time, when He went to the feast right after that. And I always thought He was maybe referring to His coming crucifixion or being openly proclaimed as the King of the Jews. But I'm now hoping Jesus' words had a secondary meaning about a future appointment He has on the Feast of Tabernacles to appear before His disciples (and back then it wasn't His time yet to appear at that the beginning of the feast, as a fulfillment - like how He fulfilled Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, and Pentecost). Also, in John 7:10 it says He later appeared at the feast not openly, but as it were in secret. If the rapture happens on the Feast of Tabernacles (this year or a future one), it could parallel Jesus not coming openly back then (since we'd meet the Lord in the air and His true second coming to the earth is at the end of the great tribulation). |
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Post by watchmanjim on Sept 11, 2017 23:25:04 GMT -6
ANd I still wonder about the mention of the booths by Peter at the transfiguration. That seemed to shut down the whole show really quick, as if Peter messed everything up. Not sure if it's related.
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Post by whatif on Sept 12, 2017 10:26:43 GMT -6
LOL! Brad, I love the spaghetti model! What a cool idea after seeing so many spaghetti models for the hurricane!
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Post by whatif on Sept 12, 2017 10:27:21 GMT -6
Good morning, advocate681, and welcome to the forum! I see you are a new member!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 12:09:32 GMT -6
Whether the transfiguration took place on tabernacles or not - the text of the story provides tabernacles images and in so doing, may be telling us something very important:
Jesus' garment became white and gleaming - much like the white linens that will be worn by the sons of God. The end of the passage has God specifically claiming the Son.
Luke records that this happened "8 days later" - lending to the image of the last great day or the 8th day of tabernacles. This coincides with two important patterns - 1. the presentation of the Son. 2. The purification of the priest. Both were a 7 day period with presentation on the 8th day.
Also, and the is just weird, I'm pretty sure that this took place on Mt Hermon. You would have to look at some posts on some other threads to see why I bring this up. But Hermon and Irma have the same germanic roots. And have come up in an odd pattern as of late. The reason I believe this to be the case is that it is called a high mountain and we know he was near Caesarea Philippi (which is at the foothills of Mt Hermon).
It is clear from the passage that Peter did suggest to build booths, but was immediately aware of his mistake. I do not think he meant tabernacles from the Sukkot perspective - but rather shrines - as in to worship the three of them. God then reveals that this is his Son. Later, when Peter tells the story - he does not mention Moses and Elijah. Just Jesus. It appears he learned his lesson.
But the booths reference also lends credibility to pondering this revealing of the "Son(s) of God" on the 8th day of Tabernacles and that somehow that might be connected to Hermon / Irma.
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Post by kjs on Sept 12, 2017 12:19:50 GMT -6
Brad: while your Spaghetti Model is “cute and timely” – over-all I would say it is not beneficial.
Here is why, the vast majority of the “church” which teaches rapture believes in the imminent removal. Or, put another way the rapture could occur NOW (this very second) or not for another ten years – or anywhere between that time span.
Your Spaghetti model kind of goes back to that imminent belief and allows people to add favorite dates to the model (like SK).
Here is what Scott Clark said in one of his interviews, when asked specifically What If it does not happen? He replied – it is back to the drawing board – to figure out which calculation we messed up on.
What your model will do; is provide additional data points where people can hang their hats on and say --- ok – it was not 9/21 – then it must be 9/23 – if not 9/23 then how about 10/4 -- heck you model goes all the way to mid-November – all along giving some people one more “Hope for “ date.
If no rapture occurs by the SIGN (ie we are still here on 9/24) – I think our best bet is admit we are wrong about God’s timing – and not simply grab a few more dates to wait for.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 12:45:38 GMT -6
If no rapture occurs by the SIGN (ie we are still here on 9/24) – I think our best bet is admit we are wrong about God’s timing – and not simply grab a few more dates to wait for.It may be useful to keep in mind that many of us have never come to the conclusion that a rapture will take place on the date of the sign or prior. The sign seems to be the fulfillment - or secondary reminder - of Rev 12:1-2. The birth, and possible rapture event, seems to take place in verse 5. If we are still here on the 24th. That does not mean we were wrong to interpret the alignment in the sky as a fulfillment of Rev 12:1-2. It simply means that He is drawing our attention to that passage and giving us a better understanding of the season. The sign will still be real after 9/24. The question has always been, what does it mean? What are the earthly ramifications? I would add - to those who said the rapture had to take place on or before 9/23. Sure - they will need to acknowledge they misinterpreted the sign. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 12:54:01 GMT -6
You know, to add to my last post. I would even say it is one of my concerns is that we all stop watching or searching after the 23rd. We have all added a lot to the sign, but the sign by itself is significant. This is why I created the thread about the dreaded day 9/24.
A rapture need not happen on that day or before for us to believe in what God is doing at this time on earth. So many options are still open on the 24th. Some of them very soon after the 23rd. Some of them several years later.
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