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EnochWalked: www.iflscience.com/artificial-intelligence-may-hit-the-singularity-within-7-years-researchers-claim-67242 "Brace yourselves for 2030." "Researchers have claimed that artificial intelligence (AI) will reach the singularity within seven years" Jan 30, 2023 3:13:31 GMT -6

EnochWalked: www.reuters.com/world/russia-says-nuclear-arms-treaty-with-us-may-end-after-2026-2023-01-30/ "Russia warns United States: the end of nuclear arms control may be nigh" "What comes after Feb. 4, 2026, however, is unclear" Jan 30, 2023 9:46:24 GMT -6

EnochWalked: thebl.com/us-news/people-of-future-will-have-microchips-implanted-in-their-brains-says-world-economic-forum-boss.html '2016 video interview ... shows Schwab ... [claim] brain chips will be extensively used “certainly in the next 10 years”' Jan 30, 2023 10:39:31 GMT -6

EnochWalked: www.ejiltalk.org/will-history-repeat-itself-anticipating-the-icj-advisory-opinion-on-the-legal-status-of-israels-occupation-and-its-consequences/ "One can prudently expect that the Court will largely deliver what is sought of it." Jan 30, 2023 11:49:55 GMT -6

EnochWalked: "A declaration by the Court of the occupation or Israel’s presence in the territories as illegal would mean an unconditional obligation to terminate the situation by withdrawal." "other states have an obligation to bring that breach to an end" Jan 30, 2023 11:51:21 GMT -6

Michael2: The Babylonians sacked Jerusalem only a few years after Ezekiel wrote this prophecy. The video author states that he uses the 701BC date because it was a failed siege. He uses 70AD as the next event because that occurred 40 years after the crucifixion. Jan 30, 2023 14:57:22 GMT -6

Michael2: I take issue with his theory that we should multiply these counts by 7. 1) He doesn't apply his method consistently, and 2) I'm not convinced the multiplication is justified. Jan 30, 2023 15:01:06 GMT -6

Michael2: In the case of Israel, he uses 701BC as the termination point for 390 years of iniquity apparently at the start of Jeroboem's reign, though I don't think he became king as far back as 1091BC. Jan 30, 2023 15:03:33 GMT -6

Michael2: He then adds 390*7=2730 years to that termination point in order to arrive at 2030AD. Jan 30, 2023 15:04:10 GMT -6

Michael2: In the case of Judah, he use 70AD as the termination point of a 40-year span. He then takes 70 + 40*7*7 to arrive at 2030AD. Multiplying by 7 twice is because they didn't accept Jesus by 350AD (70 + 40*7). Jan 30, 2023 15:06:42 GMT -6

Michael2: To be consistent with Israel's calculation, it seems to me he should calculate this as 70 + 40*7 + 40*7*7 = 2310AD . In other words, the 7-fold extensions shouldn't both begin at 70AD, but they should chain. Jan 30, 2023 15:09:22 GMT -6

Michael2: But regardless of that, I don't see how a 7-fold extension is warranted at all for Israel. Israel was punished for their 390 years of iniquity, but nowhere in Ezekiel's prophecy were they told the punishment would be 2730 years of exile and unbelief. Jan 30, 2023 15:11:38 GMT -6

Michael2: In the case of Judah, it is an interesting conjecture. I don't have a firm opinion on that, but time will tell. Jan 30, 2023 15:13:13 GMT -6

yardstick: can you please post the video in the threads for discussion? Jan 30, 2023 18:03:57 GMT -6

Dave: Michael2:The video author states that he uses the 701BC date because it was a failed siege. Ezekiel 4:"take an iron griddle, and place it as an iron wall between you and the city" The Sennacherib siege, (701), was doomed to fail. God put an iron wall there Jan 31, 2023 5:06:17 GMT -6

Dave: I think he might be, or probably is, on to something. But we, the church, can't use it to make a calculation for a rapture or second coming date of some kind. Just another indicator that we are in the zone. Jan 31, 2023 5:10:45 GMT -6

Dave: This shall be a SIGNJ Jan 31, 2023 5:17:57 GMT -6

Dave: woops. This shall be a SIGN to the house of Israel. i.imgur.com/mLEmHGd.png And if they still won't repent, 7 more times. Jan 31, 2023 5:19:27 GMT -6

Dave: yardstick: can you please post the video in the threads for discussion? I was. But had snowblower trouble. Now car trouble. I'm grounded. Waiting for garage to fix. No start. Fuel pump? Crank sensor? Cares of this life? Jan 31, 2023 5:23:49 GMT -6

davewatchman: EnochWalked You wanted me to let you know if we made a thread: board.unsealed.org/thread/2887/2023-end-times-prophecy Enjoy! Jan 31, 2023 5:46:03 GMT -6