Rapture Spaghetti Model

That would be nifty if they are raised from the dead and we actually have time to see it and process it before we are whisked away too!

So let’s look for that Birthday.

Perhaps the best place we can find clues is in the “star of Bethlehem” birth sign, and the near identical sign in 3915 BC. Then, compare what we find to the birth sign currently in progress.


I still think the 3915 near miss sign is not a near miss at all. It is different for sure, but I believe it to be God telling us the end from the beginning, and telling us how to read the sign.

Here is a chart of the 3 birthing signs we have been discussing. All 3 of the signs have 1 thing in common, A day count from the start of Jupiter’s retrograde until a Jupiter/Venus conjunction lasting within the plus or minus 2 weeks of the 280 day normal human gestation cycle.


I am still on board with the current rapture noodle being the 22nd/23d, but Here is a long held theory of mine that seems to suggest a second birth in the sign which I believe is the Anti-Christ birthing or revealing…. The “birth” happens just 5 days away from November 18th, which is 2,520 days away from the Day of atonement in 2014.

I think this November 13th date of the Jupiter/Venus alignment is the second birth within the Revelation 12 sign which represents the Anti-Christ arriving on the screen.  

Here is a chart as a visual reference.

If I can throw in my 2 cents:

I understand the desire to not look like we are fools grasping at straws should the 23rd come and go with no rapture. That said, it is the mockers and scoffers largely who have accused us watchers of date setting even though many, if not most of us, have been very careful to say that we don't know with certainty when the rapture will happen, only that this sign appears in the heavens on a specific date. They refuse to listen. If we are still here on September 24th it won't matter what we say. They will mock us and scoff at us with renewed intensity. We must all be ready for that.

So that said, I see the spaghetti model as helpful for us watchers knowing full well that others will mock us for new date speculations. Here is part of the reason why:

The way the rapture is described in the Bible is as an instantaneous event. In one instant the dead are raised, the living are transformed, we rise in the air, and we meet Christ. The Bible gives the impression that the amount of time that elapses while all of this occurs is less than a second. As we have all continued to study the rapture and learned of the connections with Revelation 12, we have now seen that the rapture is likened to a birth. Now, when we look to the stars, we see many of these events that happen in an instant spread out over time. When is the birth exactly? Once we've identified the birth, we see the catching up depicted as Jupiter moving away from Virgo towards Libra (representing God's throne?). Additionally, there's the meeting between Jupiter and Venus in November. Does this represent our meeting Christ in the air?

So do you see the problem? An instantaneous event takes months to be fully illustrated in the sky. How do we determine which particular moment in the story as told by the stars we will actually experience that instant? That's why I find the spaghetti model helpful.

I know it’s way late in the game to be throwing a wrench in the Spaghetti bowl... but soon,  those left behind, and the Jewish people who will soon be trying to figure this whole thing out.


One area which I wish we would have spent more time discussing is the mystery of how to read this giant clock of a solar system God has created.
What do each of the planets represent, and what do the constellations symbolize?


Things are about to get messy here for a minute, so please hang in there with me, If we make a few changes in what we think we know, the clock starts to become readable. Here we go, proposed identities of the 5 visible planets:

Identities of the 5 visible planets:

Currently, we have been assuming that Jupiter is the messianic planet… symbolic of Jesus and “the body of Christ” forming in the womb with a birth date fast approaching.

let’s take a look at scripture about what Jesus said about himself:

Revelation 22:16

"I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star."

1-Venus: has long been considered the brightest star, and the bright morning star. Since it orbits closer to the sun than earth does, it is observable much more often at daybreak. Venus entered the womb of Virgo at the time of conception in 3BC… so let’s assume for now that Venus represents Jesus. (hang in there….)


2- Mars: thought to be the god of war in mythology, Lets Identify Mars as the Archangel Michael:

Revelation 12:7-8 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.


3- Mercury: Called “Messenger”, Lets identify Mercury as the Angel Gabriel

4- Saturn: Most agree, this is Satan

5- Jupiter: God the Father.

6- Vesta: Proposed identity: The Body of Christ


Then, if we look at the Mazzaroth definitions taken from:

pillar-of-enoch.com/essays/LOG3-Ch-3_Mazzaroth-Gospel.pdf
We might have a good starting point.



Using the proposed identities,
The exact order of the 3 planets (Mercury, Mars and Venus) in Leo start to paint a readable picture of scripture!


Thoughts anyone?

brad why would the body be associated with Vesta (the Roman goddess) "She was the daughter of Saturn and Ops, and sister of Jupiter, Neptune, Pluto, Juno, and Ceres."

Just tryin to shoot holes here. Hopefully you have a good answer

brad ...interesting theory. I have been reading info from creationism.org (which some of you are aware). This information is too much to elaborate on here, but in the reading I've done, Vesta is a fragment from the destroyed planet (they call Astra) that now makes up the asteroid belt (including Ceres, Pallas, etc), and includes Phobos & Deimos. The information is very compelling. I cant remember when this happened but I think it was around the flood, but definitely before 701 BC

EDIT - I just noticed that Vesta was present (according to Stellarium) 3915BC. I am going to look into this reading I had done more to see if they determine when the asteroid belt occurred. I dont believe the Lord would just throw a bunch of debris between Mars and Jupiter. It either has a purpose or had one before. Or the small planet had a purpose before