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Post by mike on Sept 13, 2017 13:42:22 GMT -6
Mike... Never saw this before! Awesome sight! What caught my eye is the theory of this "Astra" colliding with Mars and breaking up into pieces (the 15 largest asteroids). Great find! Cant take credit for it @stephan got me hooked on the information. Some of which can support a nibiru type situation. Anyway Astra as they call it, did not necessarily collide, Mars' gravity caused it to explode (Roche limit). A good amount of Astra also bombed Mars surface. Two large pieces created the plateau and rift on Mars as well. These were estimated at 300 miles in size, nearly split the planet it two. |
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Post by watchmanjim on Sept 13, 2017 15:10:35 GMT -6
Hmmmm the plot thickens!
Or as my dad would say, the thought plickens!
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Post by cwood85 on Sept 13, 2017 15:46:43 GMT -6
If anyone has a knack very much so guided by the Holy Spirit for figuring out our Lords giant clock of the universe it would be our very own paulwatchmandawson . Not saying anyone here does not have a knack, but putting some ideas together may be a good idea  paulwatchmandawson if you are not already reading this thread, maybe you could chime in? Your videos and information has blown me away. The more minds that get together on this, the more quickly things can possibly be figured out and put together. Great thread everyone! I know I do not contribute to the brains of all this at all, but my journey of becoming closer and knowing the Lord has increased tenfold thanks to you guys, this and a few other websites. Let's start a study group and get some coffee lol. |
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Post by cwood85 on Sept 13, 2017 16:23:46 GMT -6
Something that just came to mind, if the body of Christ is a unique event, could it be represented by something of its own? I mean this has technically never happened before, is there something that could possibly be one of a kind (heavenly body or alignment of some sort) I mean the Great sign happening is unique and pretty spectacular, but the birth idea is good.
Do we know the times of Enoch's and Elijah's rapture? Was there possibly something signaling these events when they happened and telling their story?
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Post by brad on Sept 13, 2017 17:35:58 GMT -6
Mike... Never saw this before! Awesome sight! What caught my eye is the theory of this "Astra" colliding with Mars and breaking up into pieces (the 15 largest asteroids). Great find! Cant take credit for it @stephan got me hooked on the information. Some of which can support a nibiru type situation. Anyway Astra as they call it, did not necessarily collide, Mars' gravity caused it to explode (Roche limit). A good amount of Astra also bombed Mars surface. Two large pieces created the plateau and rift on Mars as well. These were estimated at 300 miles in size, nearly split the planet it two. This is really good mike! Here is a link to the article mike is talking about.... this certainly sounds like a Nibiru type of event to me! www.creationism.org/patten/PattenMarsEarthWars/PattenMEW05.htmYes, as watchmanjim said: "the plot thickens" |
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Post by brad on Sept 13, 2017 17:40:19 GMT -6
If anyone has a knack very much so guided by the Holy Spirit for figuring out our Lords giant clock of the universe it would be our very own paulwatchmandawson . Not saying anyone here does not have a knack, but putting some ideas together may be a good idea paulwatchmandawson if you are not already reading this thread, maybe you could chime in? Your videos and information has blown me away. The more minds that get together on this, the more quickly things can possibly be figured out and put together. Great thread everyone! I know I do not contribute to the brains of all this at all, but my journey of becoming closer and knowing the Lord has increased tenfold thanks to you guys, this and a few other websites. Let's start a study group and get some coffee lol. Great idea cwood85! I just messaged paul... I am certainly no expert on this matter of how to read the clock.... we need all the help we can get! |
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Post by brad on Sept 13, 2017 20:20:51 GMT -6
All about Vesta, the proposed "Body of Christ"
Vesta is the second most massive asteroid, and considered the brightest in our solar system measuring 329 miles in diameter. It takes 3.63 earth years for Vesta to orbit the sun. As mike has pointed out, Vesta likely came from a larger planet called “Astra” which got too close to mars and gravity broke it into pieces making a huge number of asteroids. I first noticed Vesta when looking at Stellarium at the Bethlehem Star. Normally, Vesta is not viewable with the naked eye, but when it gets close to earth (every 3.63 years) it will “pop into view” on stellarium. Let’s start at the beginning, here is the 3915BC birth sign. Notice Vesta being right there at the Jupiter/Venus conjunction. Uranus and Saturn are also there… more about these two later.  -We also find Vesta at the Bethlehem star, and involved in the current birthing sign forming now, at the precise moment of the Jupiter and Venus conjunction.  -Vesta was right there with the “first and last” blood moons in the Tetrad: 1st Blood Moon 4/15/14 Last Blood Moon 9/27/15 -Looking back to the 3915BC date when Vesta is in the Heart of Virgo, we find Uranus at the head of Virgo. This pattern (Vesta and Uranus in Virgo), will repeat itself exactly 10 times (every 588 years) during the next 6 millennia… the last of which occurs 260 days before the 6 day war in 1967. Uranus will be right there at the “vertical fish” of Pisces on September 23…. The vertical fish being symbolic of the Body of Christ (Vertically Raptured). - If our October 12, 2024 Day of Atonement (second Coming) holds true, Vesta will be right back to where she started… in the head of Virgo… So we have a lot of coincidences here… Can I suggest that Jupiter in the Great sign is reserved exclusively for the Anti-Christ about to coming on the scene? But if Vesta is representing the Body of Christ… when is the conception date? Pentecost on 33AD we find Vesta in Aquarius with Neptune. Interestingly, we find Neptune (God of the Sea in mythology) is also at Aquarius on all 3 “birth Signs” we have been looking at. What does the constellation Aquarius mean in the Mazzaroth? 6. Aquarius the Water Bearer - This man pouring water out of an urn into the mouth of a big fish signifies Yahshua as the Living Water pouring out His Holy Spirit like a river to all of God’s people, just as Moses delivered water to the Israelites out of a split rock (Numbers 20:8-11; Joel 2:28-29; Acts 2:14-17; John 4:10-11, 7:38). It also signifies Noah’s and his family’s’ deliverance from the Great Flood (Genesis 6:18, 7:7). Pouring out of the Holy Spirit? Pentecost? I believe the “Church” was conceived on the day of Pentecost. I also believe we are about to be “Born again”. The Body of Christ sign is represented by the Asteroid Vesta… at the head of Virgo… where we were conceived… in the Mind, not the womb. And here is our birthday.... in Virgo, right by the Sun! Exactly on time on the 22nd of September!  One more note: From the 3915BC sign, Jupiter will orbit the Sun exactly 500 times from this date until the September 23, 2017 sign....
Strongs 500 Greek:
antichristos: antichrist, (one who opposes Christ)
Original Word: ἀντίχριστος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: antichristos
Phonetic Spelling: (an-tee'-khris-tos)
Short Definition: antichrist
Definition: antichrist, either one who puts himself in the place of, or the enemy (opponent) of the Messiah.
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Post by mike on Sept 13, 2017 21:08:15 GMT -6
brad different...I like the different Jupiter analogy. I thought Saturn represented Satan and Jupiter = God. I'll chew on it more tomorrow. Hopefully others will too.
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Post by brad on Sept 13, 2017 22:15:36 GMT -6
brad different...I like the different Jupiter analogy. I thought Saturn represented Satan and Jupiter = God. I'll chew on it more tomorrow. Hopefully others will too. Which brings us to the conclusion... remember please this is just 1 "noodle in the graph" As I see it, Jupiter and the rest of the planets and constellations have been telling God's redemption plan from the beginning. At the moment of the Rapture, Satan will steel these signs and use them to deceive the whole world, becoming for a time..."the God of this world"Perhaps, this theory (still in the working stages), might just be revealing THE RED DRAGON! If the Rapture happens on the 22nd or 23d... the great sign itself could be transformed instantly into the fiery red Dragon! Here's how: Still not sure about any of this... Just wanted to get it out there to see if anyone can add to it... Just a noodle in the bunch.... He's in control not us. Let's keep focused on getting everybody possible on the Ark!~ Thoughts anyone? Different ideas? Could be now or never.... let's get these ideas flowing. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 22:38:33 GMT -6
Hey guys,
Interesting discussion here, to say at least....
Just found the assumed dating of Astra's fragmentation in the mentioned paper.
This would fit into the assumed timeline...
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Post by brad on Sept 13, 2017 22:54:13 GMT -6
Hey guys, Interesting discussion here, to say at least.... Just found the assumed dating of Astra's fragmentation in the mentioned paper. This would fit into the assumed timeline... Stephan, this is amazing... almost like a pre-nibiru event... I'm still very sceptical of the Nibiru theory, but this past event looks very much like what the advocates of Nibiru are currently saying about what the alleged Nibiru will do... According to what I read, they think all of the matter of Astra's body is largely accounted for in the 15 largest asteroids... Do you agree with this? No larger mass missing from Astra that is unaccounted for, and could present as a hidden collision in the future? Thoughts? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 23:22:16 GMT -6
Hey guys, Interesting discussion here, to say at least.... Just found the assumed dating of Astra's fragmentation in the mentioned paper. This would fit into the assumed timeline... Stephan, this is amazing... almost like a pre-nibiru event... I'm still very sceptical of the Nibiru theory, but this past event looks very much like what the advocates of Nibiru are currently saying about what the alleged Nibiru will do... According to what I read, they think all of the matter of Astra's body is largely accounted for in the 15 largest asteroids... Do you agree with this? No larger mass missing from Astra that is unaccounted for, and could present as a hidden collision in the future? Thoughts? Hey Brad, to make my viewpoint clear, "Nibiru" serves for me only as a placeholder or synonym for some yet to come celestial cataclysmic event. Ancient books from cultures all over the world are filled with accounts, that proof events like the Astra fragmentation. For me it seems things are coming to a close and every (even astronomic) piece of the puzzle falls into place. It makes a lot of sense to assume, that some fragments of Astra are kept for the endtimes. Some fragments are blown into Mars (craters and bulges), but some may indeed be circling around, awaiting the final showdown on earth. Exciting times.... |
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Post by brad on Sept 14, 2017 11:12:02 GMT -6
If I can throw in my 2 cents: I understand the desire to not look like we are fools grasping at straws should the 23rd come and go with no rapture. That said, it is the mockers and scoffers largely who have accused us watchers of date setting even though many, if not most of us, have been very careful to say that we don't know with certainty when the rapture will happen, only that this sign appears in the heavens on a specific date. They refuse to listen. If we are still here on September 24th it won't matter what we say. They will mock us and scoff at us with renewed intensity. We must all be ready for that. So that said, I see the spaghetti model as helpful for us watchers knowing full well that others will mock us for new date speculations. Here is part of the reason why: The way the rapture is described in the Bible is as an instantaneous event. In one instant the dead are raised, the living are transformed, we rise in the air, and we meet Christ. The Bible gives the impression that the amount of time that elapses while all of this occurs is less than a second. As we have all continued to study the rapture and learned of the connections with Revelation 12, we have now seen that the rapture is likened to a birth. Now, when we look to the stars, we see many of these events that happen in an instant spread out over time. When is the birth exactly? Once we've identified the birth, we see the catching up depicted as Jupiter moving away from Virgo towards Libra (representing God's throne?). Additionally, there's the meeting between Jupiter and Venus in November. Does this represent our meeting Christ in the air? So do you see the problem? An instantaneous event takes months to be fully illustrated in the sky. How do we determine which particular moment in the story as told by the stars we will actually experience that instant? That's why I find the spaghetti model helpful.Well said bruce! We all want to know exactly when, but it may well be way beyond our human abilities to figure out! |
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Post by brad on Sept 14, 2017 11:31:42 GMT -6
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Post by nana on Sept 14, 2017 12:36:01 GMT -6
When you couple the Feast of Trumpets with a Jewish wedding it makes things fall into place, at least for me.
Matthew 25:5-While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
I have to ask myself why would the bridegroom tarry when he is so eager to go get his bride?
Could it be he may be delayed due to the sighting of the new moon by 2 witnesses with their naked eyes? I have read the sighting can be up to 72 hours later than expected.
I will be waiting for when the sighting of the new moon is announced.
BTW silentnight, I love your avatar picture! When I watched as that happened during the eclipse it looked like a wedding ring and Jesus saying hold on i'm coming soon.
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