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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 11:17:13 GMT -6
As the fulfillment of the Rev 12 sign is approaching near, I thought it might be helpful to have a "plan" for the day after. I know what some of you are thinking!  Please let me be adamantly clear - I am convinced that the star alignment that was begun in 2016 and will make itself perfect on Sept 23, 2017 is a sign directly from God. I also believe that it is what John reported 1900 years ago. I keep telling others, that I have already seen the sign in my heart. Please see my posts in this thread for more confirmation of what I am saying: unsealed.boards.net/thread/686/hear-watchmen-scottie-clarkeSo, please don't see this as a negative post. Even those of us who are awake, are watching, and believe the sign is from God are not absolutely sure about the meaning and/or timing: 1. It could be a sign of something about to happen 2. It could be a testament to something that just happened 3. It could be a call, a warning, a beacon, etc.... 4. It could be a tester of our faith... Although there are excellent arguments to consider a rapture on or before the sign. There are also arguments in other directions. So don't see this as a thread where the "doubters" hang out. The point of this thread is for us to prepare ourselves for the possibility that we aren't raptured prior to or during the sign. If that is the case - are we prepared to defend our position and belief that the sign is real? Some of us are feeling the storm of disapproval now - imagine what it will be like after the day? Do you have an answer prepared? Are you spiritually fit for the "persecution?" Let's discuss it.... |
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Post by bruce on Aug 30, 2017 11:33:42 GMT -6
I have had similar thoughts about how we should approach our task of watching should the Lord tarry beyond the 23rd of September. I have been watching fervently since 2011, and in all but one of those years I thought it very likely that the Lord would return on the Feast of Trumpets. The closer we get this year, the harder it is not to feel deja vu.
I don't have any good answers. I have tried to force myself to think about scenarios for the Lord returning on the Feast of Trumpets 2018, or perhaps Pentecost, but it's hard to see anything that makes more sense than this year. The Lord can tarry if He chooses, it is His right. His timing is perfect. I suspect that if He does tarry that He will give us some insights into why we are still here. It will be tough to go through, but I don't think it will be more than we can bear.
All that said, this really could be it. Maybe we shouldn't get too concerned about the 24th until we are there, because even though there is a chance that the Lord will tarry, there's also a very good chance that he won't and that on the 24th of September we'll be in the Throne Room of Heaven.
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Post by mike on Aug 30, 2017 11:41:19 GMT -6
I like it SK...If we are here the 24th or 25th (see article about the alignment actually looking better the next day) we need to continue in faith in HIM and continue to look up for our redemption draws near. Every day is one day closer
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Post by whatif on Aug 30, 2017 12:07:25 GMT -6
I don't remember who it was, but someone in another thread mentioned that if nothing occurs by September 24, our forum may be bombarded by people mocking at how we were supposedly wrong. I suspect we will indeed take some hits if September 23 passes uneventfully. It will be a time when we will need to rely very strongly on the Holy Spirit to guard us from discouragement if we face mocking and to help us reply to mockers with wisdom and grace. Please pray for all of our forum members that, should that be the case, we all remain in fellowship together in peace, in searching the Scriptures, and that we can encourage one another so that none lose heart. Also pray for Gary and all the moderators, as it may be we will face some challenges if the forum is bombarded by mockers.
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Post by brad on Aug 30, 2017 12:09:17 GMT -6
As the fulfillment of the Rev 12 sign is approaching near, I thought it might be helpful to have a "plan" for the day after. I know what some of you are thinking! Some of us are feeling the storm of disapproval now - imagine what it will be like after the day? Do you have an answer prepared? Are you spiritually fit for the "persecution?" Let's discuss it.... I'm with you 100% on this silentknight! We know something big is on the way.... timing could be tricky here... From now till November 18th is my current high alert window... time to get our own personal affairs in order, get the gospel out, leave behind as much as possible for our future brothers and sisters..... and prepare for non-stop persecution should this go past the 24th.... Amen! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 12:11:35 GMT -6
... we will need to rely very strongly on the Holy Spirit to guard us from discouragement if we face mocking and to help us reply to mockers with wisdom and grace. Please pray for all of our forum members that, should that be the case, we all remain in fellowship together in peace, in searching the Scriptures, and that we can encourage one another so that none lose heart. Also pray for Gary and all the moderators, as it may be we will face some challenges if the forum is bombarded by mockers. Such good points, Whatif. Like a typical man, I was focused on the "argument / knowledge" side of things. But your point is so much more valid. It isn't just "what" we say. But "how" we will say it. Thanks! |
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Post by yardstick on Aug 30, 2017 12:32:35 GMT -6
As the fulfillment of the Rev 12 sign is approaching near, I thought it might be helpful to have a "plan" for the day after. I know what some of you are thinking! Some of us are feeling the storm of disapproval now - imagine what it will be like after the day? Do you have an answer prepared? Are you spiritually fit for the "persecution?" Let's discuss it.... I'm with you 100% on this silentknight! We know something big is on the way.... timing could be tricky here... From now till November 18th is my current high alert window... time to get our own personal affairs in order, get the gospel out, leave behind as much as possible for our future brothers and sisters ..... and prepare for non-stop persecution should this go past the 24th.... Amen!I have a similar window, but a slightly different strategy. 1. Plant the Sept 23 seed as only Rev 12:1-2. See if it flourishes. If not, it's a waste of stewardship to throw more seed onto the ground that will not receive it. 2. If interest is expressed, witness the simplicity of salvation: repent (change of heart), believe (in the finished work of Christ), confess (express repentance and belief, and tell others) 3. Prepare my earthly belongings for use by a Trib saint. Hope and have faith that God will direct them to these resources. 4. Prepare an escape for my pets. Make it so they can get out into the 'wild' rather than be trapped in a house with no food or water for an indeterminate period of time. 5. Focus on the family. Previously described in another thread about widening the circle of concern outward from my world. 6. Prepare back up plan A: If November arrives with no harpazo but a catastrophic socio-political-economic or geologic event, use the resources prepared for the potential Trib saint to evacuate. 7. Prepare a back-up plan B: If November arrives with no harpazo, and no catastrophic socio-political-economic event, or no geologic event, return to the long term plan currently on hold for preparing my children for their future; but retain the flexibility of #6 and #1-5. |
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Post by peeputt on Aug 30, 2017 12:58:42 GMT -6
Amen, I will keep watching as we are instructed to do by our Lord, however, I must admit, if we are still here on the 24th I will be at a total loss. We are told to watch, we are told to study and be like the Bereans, both of these things are what so many of us have been doing, but after the 24th, nothing will make sense timewise anymore. All I will be able to do is ask God for more wisdom, discernment, and understanding. Why would he tell us to watch if there are no signs to watch for? Why would he allow all the convergence of so many signs such as the 120, 100, 70, 50 anniversaries for Israel, the Blood Moons, Eclipse 33 days before Sept 23rd, and ultimately the alignment of that day and at the same time as Transhuminasim taking hold and people starting to get microchipped, staggering increase in earthquakes, unprecedented moral depravity, Nations lining up for war, I could go on and on... I will be scratching my head, but continuing to look for his SOON return!  |
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Aug 30, 2017 13:02:00 GMT -6
2 Peter...
3Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, 4and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.” 5For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, 6through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. 7But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
8But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. 9The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
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Post by mike on Aug 30, 2017 13:55:57 GMT -6
I don't remember who it was, but someone in another thread mentioned that if nothing occurs by September 24, our forum may be bombarded by people mocking at how we were supposedly wrong. I suspect we will indeed take some hits if September 23 passes uneventfully. It will be a time when we will need to rely very strongly on the Holy Spirit to guard us from discouragement if we face mocking and to help us reply to mockers with wisdom and grace. Please pray for all of our forum members that, should that be the case, we all remain in fellowship together in peace, in searching the Scriptures, and that we can encourage one another so that none lose heart. Also pray for Gary and all the moderators, as it may be we will face some challenges if the forum is bombarded by mockers. I will be here to help bear the burden should it go that way! |
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Post by yardstick on Aug 30, 2017 14:00:33 GMT -6
Amen, I will keep watching as we are instructed to do by our Lord, however, I must admit, if we are still here on the 24th I will be at a total loss. We are told to watch, we are told to study and be like the Bereans, both of these things are what so many of us have been doing, but after the 24th, nothing will make sense timewise anymore. All I will be able to do is ask God for more wisdom, discernment, and understanding. Why would he tell us to watch if there are no signs to watch for? Why would he allow all the convergence of so many signs such as the 120, 100, 70, 50 anniversaries for Israel, the Blood Moons, Eclipse 33 days before Sept 23rd, and ultimately the alignment of that day and at the same time as Transhuminasim taking hold and people starting to get microchipped, staggering increase in earthquakes, unprecedented moral depravity, Nations lining up for war, I could go on and on... I will be scratching my head, but continuing to look for his SOON return! I've been cataloging significant events from Aug 21 to the end of the year. The histogram I developed indicates a 3-sigma probability distribution (99.7%) between 8/21-11/18, a 2 sigma probability window (95.2%) between 9/9-10/15 and a 1 sigma probability distribution between 9/18-10/8 (66.7%). The highest frequency of events I have is 9/20-9/23. Although an interpretation of Isa 66:7 indicates the harpazo prior to 9/23, a chance of misinterpretation of that passage allows for a window after that date, because the 'birth of wind' (Isa 26:18) is expected on about 10/15. Hence, the strategy I outlined above. Use your time and resources wisely. You cannot take things with you, so leave them available for a Trib saint. |
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Post by whatif on Aug 30, 2017 14:00:45 GMT -6
Thank you so much, mike!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 3:33:48 GMT -6
....and to add one more point: It may very well be, that the bridegroom tarries!
I don't know for how long, but I will still be waiting for Him then with desire and continue to study the Scriptures and do His work.
And my guess is, that almost everyone in this forum have the same mindset!
I'm still pondering on this...
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Post by findtruth on Aug 31, 2017 5:43:35 GMT -6
I must admit that I am excited about the rapture happening very soon. However, I want to guard my heart and not get disappointed if the Lord does tarry. I have printed up from this site , left behind articles and I have brought up the urgency of the Lord coming back soon to some of my family and friends. I have decided for myself to side on caution instead of just knowing that the rapture has to happen this year. Maybe I am looking at this whole thing in the wrong way; I really don't know. I do appreciate this site very much and all the contributions of everyone. I just felt it necessary to get my opinion out there. Please comment if someone believes that I am looking at this is the wrong way. I want to be a strong witness and I want to follow the Lord and do what is right by Him.
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Post by whatif on Aug 31, 2017 7:23:45 GMT -6
It sounds to me like you are being a wise and faithful servant of the Lord, findtruth!
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