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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2017 19:24:17 GMT -6
As the fulfillment of the Rev 12 sign is approaching near, I thought it might be helpful to have a "plan" for the day after. I know what some of you are thinking! Please let me be adamantly clear - I am convinced that the star alignment that was begun in 2016 and will make itself perfect on Sept 23, 2017 is a sign directly from God. I also believe that it is what John reported 1900 years ago. I keep telling others, that I have already seen the sign in my heart. Please see my posts in this thread for more confirmation of what I am saying: unsealed.boards.net/thread/686/hear-watchmen-scottie-clarkeSo, please don't see this as a negative post. Even those of us who are awake, are watching, and believe the sign is from God are not absolutely sure about the meaning and/or timing: 1. It could be a sign of something about to happen 2. It could be a testament to something that just happened 3. It could be a call, a warning, a beacon, etc.... 4. It could be a tester of our faith... Although there are excellent arguments to consider a rapture on or before the sign. There are also arguments in other directions. So don't see this as a thread where the "doubters" hang out. The point of this thread is for us to prepare ourselves for the possibility that we aren't raptured prior to or during the sign. If that is the case - are we prepared to defend our position and belief that the sign is real? Some of us are feeling the storm of disapproval now - imagine what it will be like after the day? Do you have an answer prepared? Are you spiritually fit for the "persecution?" Let's discuss it.... Greetings Brothers and Sisters - I am rejuvenating this thread and bringing it back to the original purpose. We can eliminate option 2, but the rest still stand! Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men. Be encouraged! Be of Good Cheer! Welcome to the post sign era! We are now living in the most exciting time of all history! My heart sings for joy as we have experienced the great gift that our father has provided. Now we have turned the page and are on the other side of the sign! Great and wonderful are His ways that leave me completely in love with Him as He continues to hide and reveal at the same time. Some are discouraged. Do not be discouraged! We have been given eyes to see and ears to hear something that much of the world, both believing and unbelieving, have not seen. Some are back to figuring it out. Rest! God is about to do great things in the heavens and on the earth. Some are saying it was not the sign. Walk forth in the faith that you have been given and do not take heed of those who do not see what you see. God declares what is not as though it was and then He makes it real! (Rom 4:17) He has not brought us to the point of birth to simply not give birth. Have Faith! Be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might! Isa 66:9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.We are living in the time of Rev 12:1-4! We know what the will of God is because we see it written in Rev 12:5 and after. Here is the crux - When Daniel knew that the 70 years of captivity had come to an end he prayed. We need to now begin the prayer of Daniel from Daniel 9. Please look at the prayer and in particular this last verse: Dan 9:19 O Lord, hear; O Lord, forgive; O Lord, hearken and do; defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy city and thy people are called by thy name. The entire beginning of Daniel 9 is our prayer for today and the days to come and I urge you brothers and sisters to join me in this prayer. We are called to be an Amen people. Don't be discouraged and don't be too pressed to figure it all out - we know the will of God - we have the great honor to pray for it to happen. God did not do this wonderful work just for us to lose confidence or go back to the drawing board. He gave us this sign so we knew how to pray!!! Let us pray together and in unison the prayer that Daniel prayed when he knew it was time for Babylon to let the people Go and be Free! This does not mean pray it word for word like a mantra - it means, read it, meditate on it, understand it, and then pray how the Spirit leads you! Love to you all - It is time to put knee to floor! Join me! Edit: Notice also the call of the day - for a totally different reason and without passing judgement one way or the other - #TakeAKnee !
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Post by katmak on Sept 24, 2017 19:35:32 GMT -6
Praying this prayer, silentknight! Thank you for this encouragement. I can't wait to see your new hairdo:)
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Post by Natalie on Sept 24, 2017 19:36:26 GMT -6
I actually read this prayer a couple of days ago. I will go back and reread it shortly. I also love David's prayer in 1 Chronicles 29, especially verses 10-13.
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Post by thetimeoftheend on Sept 24, 2017 19:51:34 GMT -6
Thank you silentknight, and your points are well taken. We should not be discouraged! We should be encouraged, God has fulfilled a sign in Heaven, we have unprecented signs on the earth in the last month, 1/3 of the us on fire, record setting hurricanes, back to back major quakes in Mexico, and unprecedented flooding in Asia, all between the eclipse and the sign. We should not be discouraged! We should be awake and ready!
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Post by sawdy on Sept 24, 2017 20:48:57 GMT -6
1.Rest! God is about to do great things in the heavens and on the earth. 2.Walk forth in the faith that you have been given and do not take heed of those who do not see what you see. 3.We are living in the time of Rev 12:1-4! We know what the will of God is because we see it written in Rev 12:5 and after. 4.Don't be discouraged and don't be too pressed to figure it all out - we know the will of God - we have the great honor to pray for it to happen. 5.God did not do this wonderful work just for us to lose confidence or go back to the drawing board. 6.He gave us this sign so we knew how to pray!!! Let us pray together. 7.It is time to put knee to floor! #TakeAKnee I edited what I was quoting of you so that I could focus on those points. 1.Rest. Very important. God gave me excellent sleep last night. (A rarity for me). I melted into my bed and felt absolutely relaxed and at peace. 2.Faith is important. I am not discouraged as God's timing is not my timing I already knew that from leaving how to how to have patience and be humble last year. 3. Amen! 4.I am excited with each day that we still have as that is yet another day that we have a chance to encourage others to come to Christ and to pray for his will. We were all asking others on here to pray for friends amd family; we now have the opportunity of time to present them again with the message and the hope we have found through Christ! 5.We can choose to be Practicing Christians or non-practicing christians. Now is the time to be excited about our faith and not discouraged. The excitement of a Practicing Christian is contagious. 6.The first thing I did when the 23 became the 24 was pray. I continue to pray and have asked God to continue to provide me with the strength, energy and mental ability to be a witness for him (I suffer from a poor memory and can't recall names/scriptures- I even forgot my phone number once) 7.I love the hashtag! It is hard to get down and be humble and obedient before our Lord. It is much easier to pray standing, or sitting; any kind of comfortable position than it is to kneel or get face down on the floor. Surprisingly, I have been praying for the clarity and energy to be able to get my home into order. (I would like to leave my home clean if he calls me home, and I am also working my way though a 2000 things decluttering challenge this year that I would like to complete.) God answered my prayer this week and I managed to tackle my laundry room while suffering from a cold on the 22nd, I cleaned my storage room and tidied the basement on the 23rd, and was well rested enough (Thank you Lord for the sleep!) to declutter some flat surfaces in my bedroom and basement. Tomorrow I hope that he continues to answer that prayer so that I can make the decisions that I need to make and the energy to clean what I need to clean.
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Post by AlwaysPraying on Sept 24, 2017 21:46:40 GMT -6
In a time like this, I find myself reflecting on how Jesus handled Himself during His earthly ministry: - He freely preached to the crowds, but spoke in parables to those same crowds (Mark 4:10-12)
- When questioned on His authority to preach what He did, He was wise in His responses (Matt. 21: 23-27)
- But before His greatest trial (the crucifixion), He mounted no elaborate defense of Himself (Matt. 27:11-14)
As servants of His, we must strive to be as He was (Matt. 10:24-26). Eventually, all will be revealed (Luke 8:16-18).
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Post by Gary on Sept 25, 2017 10:15:37 GMT -6
Jesus is at the door. The time is at hand. A great sign has been fulfilled. Yes! Now is the time to be about the Father's business like never before and to pray.
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Post by tiffanybw on Sept 25, 2017 14:10:50 GMT -6
1.Rest! God is about to do great things in the heavens and on the earth. 2.Walk forth in the faith that you have been given and do not take heed of those who do not see what you see. 3.We are living in the time of Rev 12:1-4! We know what the will of God is because we see it written in Rev 12:5 and after. 4.Don't be discouraged and don't be too pressed to figure it all out - we know the will of God - we have the great honor to pray for it to happen. 5.God did not do this wonderful work just for us to lose confidence or go back to the drawing board. 6.He gave us this sign so we knew how to pray!!! Let us pray together. 7.It is time to put knee to floor! #TakeAKnee I edited what I was quoting of you so that I could focus on those points. 1.Rest. Very important. God gave me excellent sleep last night. (A rarity for me). I melted into my bed and felt absolutely relaxed and at peace. 2.Faith is important. I am not discouraged as God's timing is not my timing I already knew that from leaving how to how to have patience and be humble last year. 3. Amen! 4.I am excited with each day that we still have as that is yet another day that we have a chance to encourage others to come to Christ and to pray for his will. We were all asking others on here to pray for friends amd family; we now have the opportunity of time to present them again with the message and the hope we have found through Christ! 5.We can choose to be Practicing Christians or non-practicing christians. Now is the time to be excited about our faith and not discouraged. The excitement of a Practicing Christian is contagious. 6.The first thing I did when the 23 became the 24 was pray. I continue to pray and have asked God to continue to provide me with the strength, energy and mental ability to be a witness for him (I suffer from a poor memory and can't recall names/scriptures- I even forgot my phone number once) 7.I love the hashtag! It is hard to get down and be humble and obedient before our Lord. It is much easier to pray standing, or sitting; any kind of comfortable position than it is to kneel or get face down on the floor. Surprisingly, I have been praying for the clarity and energy to be able to get my home into order. (I would like to leave my home clean if he calls me home, and I am also working my way though a 2000 things decluttering challenge this year that I would like to complete.) God answered my prayer this week and I managed to tackle my laundry room while suffering from a cold on the 22nd, I cleaned my storage room and tidied the basement on the 23rd, and was well rested enough (Thank you Lord for the sleep!) to declutter some flat surfaces in my bedroom and basement. Tomorrow I hope that he continues to answer that prayer so that I can make the decisions that I need to make and the energy to clean what I need to clean. I love your post silentknight! And also, I love this post sawdy! The things you have listed... exact same thing is what I feel The Holy Spirit has spoken to me. With all honesty I can say that I am even more excited now than I was pre-sign (lol)! He is coming!!! Another thing, for me, just that I saw all the scoffing before the sign happened and of course expect that only to increase as I'm sure it already has (because I don't go looking for it; have no interest in partying with the scoffers). There is something in me that speaks to me two things specifically: 1. When they say "peace and safety" sudden destruction will fall upon them. 2. Oh, will they scoff, make fun of, call us liars and worse names than that, tell us we don't know Jesus, and on, and on, and on. Same as they did in the days of Noah. But we who are faithful will keep on looking up, as we HAVE seen the SIGN of His Coming! As the scoffers continue doing what they do best... where is the sign of His Coming... ha, ha, ha... And in the midst of all that... He Will Appear in the sky. The Sign of the Son of Man (maybe of which has already appeared). And He Will Come to Catch us up. And He will take us Home. Even the scoffers who believe in Him for their Salvation. Because they are still His Servants (just not so much being good servants presently). Love this thread and these posts!
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Post by findtruth on Sept 25, 2017 18:06:59 GMT -6
Please everyone, do not be discouraged and disappointed. Revelation 12 Verse 1 has come to complete fulfillment. I believe that there are periods or gaps of time between each verse2-5. If one reads revelation 12:1-5 very carefully, this is very clear.
There are other gaps in the scripture between verses. Look at Daniels 70 weeks for example.
The church is not ' caught up 'till verse 5.
I feel that God has called me to be a voice of encouragement for other brothers and sisters who are weary and feel down because they were expecting the rapture to already take place. We all need to stand strong in the Lord. Do not let scoffers who follow evil to get the best of you! Everything is lining up perfectly just as God has planned since the very beginning of time.
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Post by brad on Sept 25, 2017 18:21:12 GMT -6
Please everyone, do not be discouraged and disappointed. Revelation 12 Verse 1 has come to complete fulfillment. I believe that there are periods or gaps of time between each verse2-5. If one reads revelation 12:1-5 very carefully, this is very clear.
There are other gaps in the scripture between verses. Look at Daniels 70 weeks for example.
The church is not ' caught up 'till verse 5.
I feel that God has called me to be a voice of encouragement for other brothers and sisters who are weary and feel down because they were expecting the rapture to already take place. We all need to stand strong in the Lord. Do not let scoffers who follow evil to get the best of you! Everything is lining up perfectly just as God has planned since the very beginning of time. Totally agree findtruth... we stand in agreement... Thanks for being a great encourager!
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Post by AlwaysPraying on Sept 25, 2017 20:01:40 GMT -6
Not sure if this has already been posted, but this video is a post 23rd perspective: Really enjoying it. Edit: Finished watching the video. Lots of speculation at the end. I guess only time will tell if there's anything to that part.
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Post by mike on Sept 25, 2017 20:04:14 GMT -6
Not sure if this has already been posted, but this video is a post 23rd perspective: Really enjoying it. Yes! I'm watching it now and posted it in a thread. Everyone should watch this! It basically summarizes every single thread in this forum
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Post by tiffanybw on Sept 26, 2017 6:15:27 GMT -6
I'm getting ready to watch Steve Cioccolanti's video now. I've watched other videos of his and enjoyed them. I know he catches a lot of flak from people... but all I see... is a man who loves Jesus A LOT! No problem in agreeing that I don't agree with every single thing he says. And so, that makes him just like every other youtube channel I watch. And like me. Human, a sinner, and doesn't know it all. I don't know, just that I think he doesn't get enough credit. I truly feel like he loves Yeshua (and I honestly can't say that same thing with many of the mainstream big name pastors out there, who with them... can't judge their heart but my "false teacher" radar goes beeping out of control when I watch most of them). With Cioccolanti, it doesn't. That is not to say that everything he says is true. Again though, if any person out there is believing everything that ANY person says, no matter who it is... Just that they got some problems because one thing I know for sure is no one is completely correct in thought or belief (and me definitely included in that). It's kind of like that saying goes... "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater." Me and my mom actually had a conversation through text the other day (first time we have spoken AT ALL since 2015 and though things are by no means perfect... just such HUGE progress and so now I wait on The Holy Spirit as He has told me it is time to wait and let Him do His Work)! Not going to share the entire conversation; in general though my mom (and our entire family I believe has been impacted by this false teaching big time); she believes she can lose Salvation, that anyone can lose Salvation. And so we were talking about that (as I believe we can NOT lose Salvation). My mom said, that she did not want to be saved by fire. As soon as she said that, The Holy Spirit, I can't explain but He just kind of took over. Immediately 1 Corinthians 3:15 came into my mind. And I told her that Salvation is not like that, that we ALL are saved by fire whether we want to be or not and that it is not a bad thing but a good thing! And that when we are initially saved, we are ALL saved as by fire because we ALL have bad works. And that Jesus casts all our bad works into the fire but He does NOT cast US into the fire (does not cast out the baby with the bathwater). And then that some people, they remain saved by fire because they don't allow The Holy Spirit to sanctify them, to teach them, to make them more like Jesus. And some (hopefully all believers do this but I'm not naive and know that they don't because I used to be like this; and I did suffer a world of pain and consequences for my actions and still do for sin I've committed in my past); anyways though, some believers intentionally seek The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit and that they are sanctified. Both people though... sanctified or not sanctified... both are saved as by fire. Because no matter how much "sanctification" is done... as long as we are in this world and have this sin nature, there WILL still be sin and without His Fire that purifies us... and I believe that Jesus is that purifying Fire (among many other things: Lord, Savior, Master, Servant, and could go on forever lol). And so, a person IS saved by fire whether they "want" to be or not. Again, this is a GOOD thing, as if not for the Fire we would be DOOMED to everlasting death which is separation from God. So... it is the same with pastors, priests, teachers, prophets, whatever label people call themselves. We are all saved as by fire. And no matter how sanctified we are, we still have sin in us that one day, I think we will walk through the Fire just like Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. We will live! But all our sin will be burnt to a crisp and destroyed. Till then, sorry to say, but we ALL are "false teachers" in one way or another. And so we listen to our brothers and sisters, then we take it to The Word, and to The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. And He will wade through all of it, cast out the nonsense, and leave us with that which is good. (Just saying though... there are some out there who are not worth listening to at all because everything they say God would cast into the fire.) I don't know if He would cast them into the fire or not. That is between them and God and only God knows the condition of their hearts. Personally, I love watching Brother Cioccolanti. I keep in mind while watching, "this is just a man". I do that with everyone, except Yeshua! Here is another video I watched last night and enjoyed that nana had posted in the shout box:
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Post by whatif on Sept 26, 2017 14:23:32 GMT -6
Praise the Lord! I'm so glad to hear the progress with your mom, tiffanybw!
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Post by evenso on Sept 26, 2017 14:54:47 GMT -6
tiffany, I love the subject of eternal security. What a comfort!
I too am glad to hear that you're having dialog with your Mom. Have you shared with her verses like John 10:28, John 6:37, 1John 5:13...my favorite. We can KNOW! These and numerous other verses speak of eternal life. My question to those who believe they can lose their salvation is, "how long is eternal?" If Jesus gave me eternal life when I believed in Him and trusted Him, no matter what, eternal is eternal!
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