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Post by tiffanybw on Sept 26, 2017 19:37:54 GMT -6
Praise the Lord! I'm so glad to hear the progress with your mom, tiffanybw! Thanks! I can't tell you how many times I have tried talking to them and they just don't respond. I don't know why... or I do... because of Jesus she finally responded. Still haven't seen her and I texted her this past Sunday just because I had been praying and felt prompted by The Holy Spirit to text her. I brought up to her in the text the Teen Challenge program that a member here had told me about that helped her son and that they have programs also for young adults. And that no need to rush in or anything but that maybe we could look into this to help Ariana (who is my daughter but she lives with them and she is just living in so much sin and suffering and destroying herself). Anyways, my mom texted back right away and said she would respond later because they were going to a family picnic but she was really nice to me in the text. But now... I don't know what happened because I have never heard back. The only thing I can possibly think of... is that maybe my sister talked to her at the family picnic. It is all such a mess and so hard to understand because the women in our family... they are STRONG and this is not necessarily a good thing lol. I compare my family to a kingdom, and like there is a "matriarch or queen". Make the queen mad and get ousted and exiled from the kingdom! Once exiled from the kingdom, it is forbidden to speak to the person whom the queen exiled. (Whence, my dad won't speak to or acknowledge me nor am I welcome for any sort of family thing such as... Christmas, Thanksgiving, Birthdays, family picnics, my sister's baby shower coming up my sister told me she wants me to come but don't come because of mom, and it goes on and on. And it is kind of like... just that the matriarch or queen, and not blaming and I think all of these things are done for the most part subconsciously... but like she is head of the kingdom and so the rest of the family... just vying and competing with each other for her attention, acceptance, and love. And so what ends up happening is that... for example... and I'm sorry because I know all this is off topic. It really hurts though and it is hard sometimes and I just thank Jesus that He loves me unconditionally and no matter what. But like everyone has a role to play for the queen... and everyone also is fighting each other because they don't want to be "the one" that gets "exiled" from the kingdom (don't know why but always someone has to be in this role). There is also the "golden one" and that one has always been my brother, and he can do no wrong no matter what and is "above the fray" of the rest of the kingdom so to say... because not a chance he would be ousted. Me and my sister though, since birth, like we have been pit against each other. Also though, we understand each other and have this special bond because we are the only ones who know what it is like... who have "this" position in "the kingdom". And so, just that since my mother outcast me, my sister has told me things about mom... like she always has and not so nice things but they are true none the less. She has told me that ever since I was blacklisted that life has been so much better for her and that mom and dad have done so many things for her (I think that my mom, just that she doesn't know unconditional love because of that belief of being able to lose Salvation and so there always have to be expectations to live up to; but for her just that "she" is the only one who truly knows Jesus and so for her there are no expectations because in her mind she does live up to Jesus expectations of her... because if she didn't... then that would mean she had lost her Salvation). Everyone else though, we have to try and get mom's love, by meeting her expectations since she is the only one who truly knows Jesus (or not saying that is true; but truly this is what she thinks). So once I got ousted, just that me and my sister kind of switched places in my mom's kingdom. And so I hear all the time about how mom has done this, that, or the other for my sister, and that my sister does feel guilty about it but that she can't help it because she has never felt so loved and accepted before and she is so used to being the... I don't know... "the odd man out". At the same time though, my sister is the only connection I have to my family because everyone else will not even speak to me. And so I go to my sister and will ask her what does she think... and most recently I showed her me and mom's conversation and asked her what her opinion was. And she told me that mom is mom and so don't expect her to change. And that if I thought I would ever get an apology from her (from my mom) I was barking up the wrong tree (which I already know this but still I love her and she is my mom). And I could be COMPLETELE off base here... but I wonder if my sister shared with her at the picnic... but you know how it goes... shared in a way as to make herself look "good" and me look "bad" so that she can "protect" her spot in the kingdom. I know that I HAVE done it before to my sister. What I did was wrong and sin. Even if my sister did do this, I don't blame her, and I love her with my entire heart. But I have prayed and prayed about it, and I feel like Jesus is saying... just to be still, give Him time to work, to not share with my sister everything (but by no means is He telling me to not have a relationship with her because He loves her just as much as He loves me). And I love her too, with all my heart! But just because of the situation... and the only thing that will change the dynamic of the family, and the only way the family will be healed, is for God to work on Mom's heart, to let her know that she IS good enough for Jesus. But that she IS just like the rest of us... saved as by fire. And that she will NEVER lose her Salvation because He loves her. But that she does have sin and she needs Him to heal her of that. The same as we all need Him to heal us of our sin and no matter what we are always going to have it until we get to Heaven and because of that, we are always going to be saved by His Fire and to Praise Him for That because if not, we'd all be in big trouble. I think if Jesus can reach her about that, then everything will start to change, and that God will work and heal our very messed up family. And so, I've thought to text her and ask her if she has had time to reply yet (since this past Sunday when I got that text saying she would answer later because she was going to family picnic). But I haven't, because I feel like Jesus is telling me to be still, to be silent, to rest, to wait upon Him. And to trust Him to work and for right now my role in this is done. It's SO HARD. Because first... I LOVE my daughter. And, I LOVE my Mom. And, I LOVE my family and it just plain sucks that because my mom has ousted me that I'm no longer welcome to be a part of the family at all, or to be included as a participant in anything. Not going to lie, it hurts so bad and my flesh wants "vengeance", and "vindication". But that is SIN, and that does not belong to me. It belongs to Jesus. It's like... I just want to love my family and for them to love me back. It's ok though. Because I have Jesus and He WILL work it all out. If not here on earth, then in Heaven! And in the meantime, I'm going to do my best to listen to Him and what He says to do.  |
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Post by whatif on Sept 26, 2017 19:51:10 GMT -6
It may take some time, tiffanybw, but from all you've shared with us about your family and the amazing things the Lord is accomplishing for you, I know He will continue to work at bringing about good changes there!
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Post by mike on Sept 26, 2017 19:52:31 GMT -6
tiffanybw can I offer you a little advice? I'm going anyway and not wait for your response 😂 Are you an Italian? Lol ok...so seriously I come from a similar background. My sister is the youngest and mom's favorite. I was always the black sheep of the family. Still kinda am...what took me many many years to learn was that I am accountable for me and only me. I am responsible for everything I say and don't say regardless of what anyone thinks or says, what their opinion of me is or how they feel about me. I learned that and was backslidden. Take that approach to everything, because the truth is we are all standing in front of Jesus one day (whether we be raptured or die before it) and we are alone! We are accountable for every word we have spoken and our time and how we used it. I hate that and am ashamed of the time when I was away and how useless I was for His purposes. I hope this means something for or maybe someone else. Oh and.................. Anathema Maranatha!
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Post by tiffanybw on Sept 26, 2017 20:23:41 GMT -6
tiffanybw can I offer you a little advice? I'm going anyway and not wait for your response 😂 Are you an Italian? Lol ok...so seriously I come from a similar background. My sister is the youngest and mom's favorite. I was always the black sheep of the family. Still kinda am...what took me many many years to learn was that I am accountable for me and only me. I am responsible for everything I say and don't say regardless of what anyone thinks or says, what their opinion of me is or how they feel about me. I learned that and was backslidden. Take that approach to everything, because the truth is we are all standing in front of Jesus one day (whether we be raptured or die before it) and we are alone! We are accountable for every word we have spoken and our time and how we used it. I hate that and am ashamed of the time when I was away and how useless I was for His purposes. I hope this means something for or maybe someone else. Oh and.................. Anathema Maranatha! AMEN! And thank you and yes it does help a lot! I know this in my brain. My heart... just that it loves my family so much and keeps thinking it can do something to help. I know it can't though. He IS teaching me and working in me SO MUCH! Believe me... I was one MESSED UP kid, and teenager, and young adult, and even some in my 30's because I didn't start "following" Him until 2010. Sometimes, I think the reason Jesus has allowed all this to happen is so I would separate myself from my mom in particular (because my life revolved around getting her love and declaration of "good enough"). Even when I first started following Jesus, it was more about... was I following Jesus like my mom wanted me to follow Jesus and according to her approval. And so, just that God used all of it... and a lot of it was also my own sin... but He used it for good. The lesson I keep learning over and over again as He sanctifies me... trust Him, trust Him, TRUST HIM! With me, and with my family! I'm learning lol (but unfortunately I did inherit the strong woman hard headed genetics) lol! (Not Italian. lol My sister did one of those ancestry tests and says we are... something like 70% England, then there was lots of small percentages of other but I can't remember but maybe Italian too). Thank you Brother! *big hugs* |
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Post by evenso on Sept 26, 2017 20:24:06 GMT -6
When you do talk to your Mom, just be loving and kind. Show her Jesus. We'll all be praying for you!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 21:12:08 GMT -6
Just wanted to call attention to this video by Adam at Parable of the Vineyard. It testifies to the same message I posted above. That is that we need to be meditating on the prayer in Daniel 9:3-19 and praying a similar prayer to our Father now. I am calling attention to this because this continues to confirm the time in which we are living is the time after the "times of our desolations" should have come to an end.
It is time for us to pray the will of God! Spread the word among those with ears to hear. Daniel prayed what he knew to be the will of the Lord and the result was the release of the captives in Babylon.
We are right now, called to the same prayer - that we be released from our Babylonian captivity and allowed to go home!
Do not be shy! Be persistent! Pray without ceasing what is being revealed to us with signs and wonders and with confirmation among the brethren. The pattern is Daniel and his prayer, but make the prayer your own by first reading it, meditating on it, and understanding it.
We do not know the timeframe before God responds to this prayer - but, I beseech you, brothers and sisters, let us be diligent and specific in praying!
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Post by sawdy on Sept 26, 2017 21:52:02 GMT -6
tiffanybwFamily hurt is hard. I personally have gone around in circles with the women of my family. Right now it is on speaking terms, but for how long, I don't know. I am so sad about your daughter. I had a tumultuous relationship with my Dad that took me more than 10 years to be on speaking terms again and another 5 years to actually have a relationship. I am now happy to say I have had a good relationship with my Dad for the last five years. I am blessed that God started prompting me to come back to him after my daughter was born. She started going to church at 2 years of age, off and on. We started taking our attendance seriously three years ago and now rarely miss a weekly visit to our church. She is 7, but I am able to talk regularly with her and her older brother about the differences between "us" and "them". My children enjoy occasionally spending time with my dysfunctional family (other than my Dad, he is in the "us" category) but generally feel happier and more at home when they are at home. I am also blessed to have strong marriage (although I don't discuss my spirituality with my husband), we are generally the same page for parenting. I pray that our strong joint effort will keep my children on a narrow path rather than the wide boulevard that my family likes to live on.
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 26, 2017 22:09:54 GMT -6
Praise the Lord, tiffanybw! Wow!! That's so incredible that God is finally breaking down those walls your mom has built up! Amen! Amen! Amen! And a big fat Hallelujah!! |
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Post by tiffanybw on Sept 28, 2017 4:28:35 GMT -6
Just wanted to call attention to this video by Adam at Parable of the Vineyard. It testifies to the same message I posted above. That is that we need to be meditating on the prayer in Daniel 9:3-19 and praying a similar prayer to our Father now. I am calling attention to this because this continues to confirm the time in which we are living is the time after the "times of our desolations" should have come to an end. It is time for us to pray the will of God! Spread the word among those with ears to hear. Daniel prayed what he knew to be the will of the Lord and the result was the release of the captives in Babylon. We are right now, called to the same prayer - that we be released from our Babylonian captivity and allowed to go home! Do not be shy! Be persistent! Pray without ceasing what is being revealed to us with signs and wonders and with confirmation among the brethren. The pattern is Daniel and his prayer, but make the prayer your own by first reading it, meditating on it, and understanding it. We do not know the timeframe before God responds to this prayer - but, I beseech you, brothers and sisters, let us be diligent and specific in praying!
Hey silent knight! I haven't watched this video yet, probably won't get a chance to until this weekend. But as I read this post yesterday, and I have been praying Daniel 9 and I think you are right about this... Probably none of this will make sense... But as I pray Daniel 9, I feel also like we need to be praying this, except we need to be praying it for the Church; Gentiles. And I believe representation of Gentiles has always been Babylon. The Babylonian Empire of course, being the first Babylon. Then how Daniel prayed this prayer, and like you said, the result being the release of the captives in Babylon. I've been reading over and over again, praying, Daniel 9... and the thing I think of is "come out of her my people". I think it was like that for Israel, and that Daniel of course was praying for Israel, and God listened and brought her out. Israel at this time was so far from God, so backslidden, so far out of God's Will. And this is why God allowed all such things to happen to her. It was God's Will though, for Israel to come out of Babylon. Fast forward to today, and to what today's "Church" has become. We are exactly like Israel. We, the Gentiles, the Church as a whole. I think most people, at least most people here on this forum, would agree that the physical, Gentile, brick and mortar, all denominations, all over the world "Church"; we are just as far out of God's Will as Israel was at the time of the existence of the first Babylon. I think that we are (the USA specifically) the second Babylon, mystery Babylon, the Babylon spoken of in Revelation 18. I think it is possible the head that was wounded unto death and then came back again... not for sure and all of this is speculation on my part but I feel there is something to it, though I'm sure there are parts I'm right on and then parts I'm wrong on... but like the first world empire, which also fits the exact description of the Babylon spoken of in Revelation, that this is the first Babylon and this place obviously no longer exists and it is now desolate. But we, the USA, I think we are the second Babylon (first Babylon wounded unto death, and we the USA are second Babylon, mystery Babylon, with our wound having been healed. We are actually the already resurrected head... that was wounded unto death (first Gentile Babylon)... and our deadly wound healed (second Gentile Babylon)... and all the world wondered after the beast... We, the Church, first we need to collectively WAKE UP! There are many who already have though, like those of us here. I think though, that just as the first Babylon was a representation of all the Gentile Nations back in Daniel's time... The USA is the representation of all of the Gentile Nations today and in modern times. And then, of course, Israel is Israel (though there are many out there of the tribes of Israel that are not yet back in the land yet; many I don't think even know who they are because of the fact that the Northern Kingdom Israel being scattered so long ago. God knows who they are though, and He will bring them back. I think that God is going to deliver us "out of her". In Revelation 18:4: " And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." And this is why we should be praying Daniel 9 right now. Praying for God to forgive the "Church" and the depths of sin into which the majority of the church have fallen. There are just so many parallels with Israel and then the Gentiles (the Church). And I know that many Americans just don't want to see it... but come on... it's just so obvious to me that the Babylon spoken of in Revelation is us. The Vatican certainly isn't up to any good and is as sinister as it gets. But the USA (not so much the common citizen but the big "they" and those who run things), SO CORRUPT. We have killed so many the world over... all in the name of justice... all in the name of God. The US glorifies herself and lives deliciously. And the kings of the earth have ALL committed fornication with the USA. I could go on, but read Revelation. Babylon = the USA. I think we are the resurrected first Babylon. If is true, then God is telling us to "come out of her my people". Also relevant, read Jeremiah 51. And yes, we need to be on hands and knees praying Daniel 9. All I know for sure, is that if we put all our trust in Yahweh, in Yeshua, in The Holy Spirit... He WILL bring us out of her! I don't know how, but I know He will. All who are truly "the Church", meaning followers of Jesus... we need to leave all this brick and mortar, corrupt, money making, corporate, no more than a business to make money off of the name of God with all the FALSE doctrine that THEY make up because they are not interested in God at all but only their own pocketbook and worldly treasures... we need to leave it... and we need to pray... and we need to come out of her. And to trust God's Doctrine. NOT man's. |
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 29, 2017 18:43:46 GMT -6
Just wanted to call attention to this video by Adam at Parable of the Vineyard. It testifies to the same message I posted above. That is that we need to be meditating on the prayer in Daniel 9:3-19 and praying a similar prayer to our Father now. I am calling attention to this because this continues to confirm the time in which we are living is the time after the "times of our desolations" should have come to an end. It is time for us to pray the will of God! Spread the word among those with ears to hear. Daniel prayed what he knew to be the will of the Lord and the result was the release of the captives in Babylon. We are right now, called to the same prayer - that we be released from our Babylonian captivity and allowed to go home! Do not be shy! Be persistent! Pray without ceasing what is being revealed to us with signs and wonders and with confirmation among the brethren. The pattern is Daniel and his prayer, but make the prayer your own by first reading it, meditating on it, and understanding it. We do not know the timeframe before God responds to this prayer - but, I beseech you, brothers and sisters, let us be diligent and specific in praying!
Lol! I actually wondered if YOU were Adam incognito! |
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