2020 - 2027

Hello sog,

I went to the site. The charts have good graphics but are way over-done and he doesn't explain how or where he gets the numbers.
[Add 777 days to this date, plus 29000 days from 15th of Tamuz. . .]
Hopping randomly from Jewish and Gregorian dates is inconsistent. Two circles on a chart overlap and this makes a fish shape and that is supposed to be significant.

Paul Watchman Dawson, Scott Clark and a few others set the bar really really high in terms of great videos, solid Hermeneutics and clear explanation.
I'm not implying he doesn't have insight into end times. I just don't get at all where he gets "get on the ark day". Maybe you can explain it.

I do agree with you on AD 27 for the baptism date of Christ and I can see where you explain how 2000 years more gets us to 2027. Is it your belief that 2020 starts the 7 yr Tribulation.?

Disciple4Life

This is a continuation from the discussion in the ‘fig-tree-generation-quickly’ thread
board.unsealed.org/thread/2187/fig-tree-generation-quickly
Read through that first if you’d like to get some reference on part of what I’m posting here.

First I’d like to go back to the Revelation 12 sign. If you are unfamiliar with that, start here.
www.unsealed.org/p/the-sign.html

For those that are familiar with Virgo in the Revelation 12 sign, she represents Israel as the woman in labor giving birth to Christ/Church. The Revelation 12 sign was a foreshadowing of what was to come. Israel in labor/birth pangs. What if those birth pangs started in earnest on Jan. 28th of this year? 1/28/2020 was when the Peace Plan was formally unveiled in a White House press conference alongside the Israeli Prime Minister. A plan to ultimately divide Israel. As most women can attest, the first part of pregnancy experienced is morning sickness. Is it coincidence that this world has been in sickness since about that time? A sickness called Coronavirus or COVID-19. Corona meaning - Crown. A crown representing the twelve tribes of Israel?

Revelation 12:1-2
A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 and she was with child; and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth.

What is usually the next major part of the pregnancy? I’d suggest it is the moving/kicking of the baby. When does that usually start? Again, for most women it’s 4-6 months along. What is in that time frame? If you guessed the Festival of Weeks/Pentecost on 5/28/2020, you get a big thumbs up. So what could represent a baby kicking on Earth? An Earthquake? A war? Worldwide economic collapse? I will be looking for something major during that time frame.

What comes at the end of pregnancy 9 months later? Obviously the birth. The birth of the Church with new bodies in the image of Jesus? The Rapture? Possibly. What date is that? 10/28/2020, 9 months exactly from 1/28/2020. The date given by Daniel Matson as the “Get on the Ark” date from his website at – watchfortheday.org/ (middle of the page, halfway down). The first day mentioned and numbered in the Bible is Heshvan 10 (then the 10th day of the second month) when Noah entered into the Ark a week before the Flood. Heshvan 10 coincides with 10/28 this year.

What else you got, you ask? Well, King David of the Old Testament is also a representation of Israel. Israel’s flag has the Star of David as its emblem. The flag of Israel was adopted on 10/28/1948, five months after the establishment of the State of Israel on 5/14/1948. How many generations from David to Jesus? 28 generations.

So, Israel (David) is in labor for 9 months from 1/28 to 10/28 Jesus coming/Church re-birth.

And here is the tie in of the fig tree (Israel) generation at the beginning of this post. The United Nations says life expectancy in 2019 was 72.6 years.
ourworldindata.org/grapher/life-expectancy?time=1770..2019&country=OWID_WRL

In 1948, the year of independence, 20 days earlier, Passover took place from 4/24/1948 – 5/1/1948. Right in the middle of that week, a Wednesday, was the 28th. From 4/28/1948 to 10/28/2020 is exactly 72 years and 6 months. Right in the time frame of a Bible generation that will not pass, imo.

Parable of the Fig Tree
Matthew 24:32-34
32 “Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; 33 so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

Psalm 90:10-12
10 The days of our lives are seventy years;
And if by reason of strength they are eighty years,
Yet their boast is only labor and sorrow;
For it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

A little more to think about. What if Jesus was born in 2 BC ? That means he would have been about 30 at the time of his baptism by John in 28 AD. 30 being the age to begin work in the tabernacle of the congregation according to Numbers 4. David became King when he was 30 and is of a type Jesus. So 2000 years from 28 AD is 2028. 2028 is also the high end of the fig tree generation. 1948 + 80 years by strength = 2028. Possibly the high end of last days of the Great Tribulation. Then if 2028 is the high end, what is the low end? 2028 – 7 years of tribulation (70th week of Daniel) = 2021.

What of 2020 then? It got me thinking about the silence in Heaven.
The Seventh Seal—the Trumpets
Revelation 8:1
When the Lamb broke the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour.

How long is half an hour? Is it literal? A few days? Weeks? Months? If rapture were to occur at the end of 2020, would there be a waiting period on earth in relation to the half hour time period of silence in Heaven? Is there a gap between the Dead in Christ rising first until we are raptured? Could that last until early 2021 when the Tribulation would really start? What if we go by what scripture says a day is like?

2 Peter 3:8
But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.

Great, more math. 1000 years/24 hours in a day/2 for half hours = 20.8333
Can’t figure the significance of that. 20 years doesn’t seem right. Unless it’s some kind of code?
All I can say is that is a lot of 28’s.

One more thing about 2021…
If you add 1260 days to 9/23/2017 it ends up on 3/6/2021. That day is a little known special Shabbat called Shabbat Parah – Shabbat of the Red Heifer. Could that be the day sacrifices resume in the Temple?

Joe ,

We may not know the actual day or the hour, though that phrase was used as an explanation in a general sense, we do know it happens on the "last day". 

Since the rapture comes after the resurrection of the dead, and the dead are raised at the last day, we who are alive and remain are quickly taken when the son of man comes back to earth on or after the last day.  If the resurrection of the dead happens at the "last day", what day follows but a new day. And what makes this new day different? What is the "last day" a part of that a new day must come?  

Does a "new day" qualify as to be destroyed by God's wrath during a time of Gentiles, that is part of the old world we live in today which will cease to exist?

Natalie ,

There are only 2.  Revelation makes that abundantly clear.

There are 2 resurrections of the dead.  The rapture is not a resurrection, its those who are alive and remain that will be changed in an instant. 
Notice in verse 9 above that the 1st resurrection cannot be touched by death.  They live and reign with Christ for 1k years.  That is what we are all promised.  No one else is promised that but believers.
Since the 1st resurrection cannot be touched by death, there is another resurrection that can be touched by the second death - this making 2 resurrections.  One at the reign of Christ where the dead rise up, and one after the 1k year reign where the dead that were not called from the previous one and who were not written in the book of life are called and judged.

As verse 7 says: 

There is no third resurrection mentioned anywhere in scripture.  The verse you quoted (1 Thess 4:16) says:

That implies that this event happens where Christ comes and the dead in him rise first is the 1st resurrection that happens when Satan is sealed.  You need to understand that part in Rev 20 doesn't come after the Bowls.  It is speaking of when Christ reigns.  And it ties in with Rev 19.

When Christ begins to reign, we reign with him.  This is the 1st resurrection BEFORE his wrath comes.  It is also the marriage!  That is why Paul said:

And that judging doesnt happen till he appears the first time when he reigns in his kingdom.  Thats why Paul concluded with:

And his reign, which coincides with the 1st resurrection per Rev 20:5-6, also coincides with the marriage per Rev 19:6-7 and our bema seat and reward per Paul in 2 Timothy 4:1 and 8.  All of this coincides with Rev 11:15 when Christ begins to reign and our reward and bema following:

You can disagree, but there is no mistaking scripture and how it all aligns up properly.  Christ told us he'd remove out of his kingdom all that work iniquity.  If its his kingdom, he must be reigning for that wrath to happen.  The ONLY thing after Christ beginning to reign is the bowl judgments in his kingdom.  That is why after the announcement was made that he reigns and the 1st resurrection and rapture happen at the marriage per Rev 19, that is our blessed hope and glorious appearing and our safety from wrath.  Following those events are:

Which is exactly what was said in Rev 11:18 after the reward and bema seat....to destroy them that destroy the earth.

There are plenty of verses detailing a resurrection, but there are only 2.  One at the last day which is the 1st resurrection of all those that believe:

Which the last day resurrection applies to us as its for EVERYONE who looks to the son and believes! And a resurrection after his reign.  And that "last day" mentioned is the last day, because the next day after it is the first day of the new kingdom.

Hey stormyknight,

I forget where your timeline is on this site.  I place the reign of Christ with the marriage per Rev 19:6-7 AFTER verse 2.

Verse 1 tells us:

What things? Well, though verse 2 gives the answer, we can roll back alittle to Ch. 18.  That entire chapter deals with Babylon's destruction. 
Look at what was said in Ch 18

Sound familiar? The answer lay with what it means.  It demonstrates Babylon being destroyed forever.  This was the vengeance taken by God for the 5th seal martyrs.  Look at Rev 8:8 -- 
BTW, a great mountain has been described as a kingdom in the O.T.  - So in the time line, Babylon must be destroyed first before Christ reigns and the marriage comes per Rev 19.  And Christ reigns at the 7th Trumpet per Rev 11, whereas I place Babylon destroyed at the 2nd Trumpet.  And you see how this follows the time line of these chapters. 

Rev 13 is also the same way, the beast doesnt appear after the 7th Trumpet, it is shown to be there when the 2 witnesses are there as well.  
Rev 14 is also the same, it doesnt come after the 7th trumpet either...The 144k are seen first, then Babylon is destroyed, then the mark comes after it is destroyed, then the harvest of the earth and then the winepress of God (grapes of wrath).  In relation to the winepress of Ch. 14, Ch. 19:14 says something interesting about it:

If this is the same winepress of Ch 14, and in Ch 14 the harvest of the earth happens before the winepress, then our harvest must also happen before Rev 19:11-16.  That would place a harvest right about the time that Christ reigns and the marriage comes.
Look at what Joel 3 says on the harvest:

So the day of the Lord, his wrath, is near/at hand when the harvest of the earth is ripe and the grapes are in the winepress.  His wrath is only near, but hasn't come yet! If so, then the harvest of the earth in Ch. 14 and everything that precedes it: the mark, Babylon destroyed, the 144k are not God's wrath.  As well as the 6th seal stating: "and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood" - also follows Joel 2:31

So God's wrath comes sometime AFTER that 6th seal.