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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 23:55:15 GMT -6
LOL, someone at KHouse youtube is uploading all of Dr. Missler's Revelation videos... They are prepping for something! Maybe another rebuttal... ...or they are going back to their roots. Truth can't be rebutted.
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Post by kjs on Aug 8, 2017 7:45:26 GMT -6
Maybe another rebuttal... Whoa, they all just disappeared. Must have just set them to private. Hmm... very interesting .... Since there is about two videos of Chuck's Revelation series which talks of Rev 12 birth being a possible rapture of church. Plus a whole set of videos which Chuck speaks of glowing terms of the Mazzoroth which is the Hebrew Zodiac.... I know Forge 4 -- received many comments pointing to old Videos of Dr. Missler -- that basically contradicted what Ron's said in Forge 4..... Maybe they are tring to hide the evidence first..........
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 8, 2017 12:03:48 GMT -6
... I'm new also, and I feel the exact same as you about this place. I think this is only my 2nd week here, and as soon as I found this forum I signed up and started reading. You are right, it is the convergence of everything. Not just the Revelation 12 sign, but everything... in my city, in my state, in my country, in your country, in the WORLD, on the earth, in the Heavens... AND how it all lines up with The Bible, God's Infallible and Living Word! It's so exciting, incredible, amazing, sobering, attention getting, overwhelming, and scary! I’ve only read a few of your posts but you and Gary and Beloved and Whatif and WatchmanJim and *so many others* are all such dear souls and I long to sit down and have real conversations with each of you. I’m still learning to navigate this forum and tend to hold back a bit in public spaces (more of a one on one kinda girl) but I’m really grateful to be a witness of the journey and know that I’m not alone in these times. God bless you, Tiffanybw, welcome & a big warm hug! SaveSaveGod Bless you Hillary and *huge warm hugs* back to you! Someday, perhaps very soon, we will get to have those conversations! I'm just the opposite from you. I'm much better in an environment like this than I am with opening up to and speaking with those who are physically present and in a room with me. I can talk forever, am so open and can express my innermost thoughts and feelings, not shy at all, when it comes to big public places. But if it is just a few in a room, even with my family whom I love most, in situations like that I am shy and nervous. My thoughts and words get all mixed up with each other and I just don't know what to say or how to say it. When it is a lot of people though and I don't feel like I'm being, don't really know how to say, I guess "personally scrutinized"... just that in big general situations I am fearless and outgoing. One on one, or put me in a room with two or three others, not so much! Amazing how God has created each of us, the same yet very different, from head to toe and down to each and every hair upon our heads... because He Knows us that well, and He specifically created each of us, each a different part of His Body, each with our own distinct and separate purposes, given us each individual gifts and talents so that we can serve Him!
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 8, 2017 12:30:35 GMT -6
Just like you said, we need to read, to study, to pray EVERY DAY. Not just go to church once a week. (In fact, with the current options available church wise; because it is not any better here in the US than it is in Germany as far as finding a church; and I wish your church was in my town because I'd be there so fast... I wish I could find a church like this forum.) Anyways, happy to have found this place and for now kind of this place is like my church. This and some people I follow on youtube. Other than that, it is me, my Bible, and Jesus! Just like you said, seems like more and more every day we find more that points to this time, right now, maybe even this fall (September)! Whether or not Jesus comes exactly then or not, it's not going to change a thing for me (except if He does I'll be with Him and DONE with this fallen world). His coming is imminent and until He does come, I plan on living every day like He might be coming TODAY. My life, my relationship with Him, has truly been forever changed. There are no words to express how much I love Him!!! And so until He comes I just want to become closer and closer to Him, for Him to use me in whatever way He Wants and to fulfill whatever His Purpose is for me. It is so good to "meet" you here on this forum and I think someday very soon in (perfectly perfected) person! It's awesome to hear how Yeshua is moving, not only here in the US, but in Germany, and I'll bet everywhere else too! Come back and visit this forum often, invite our brothers and sisters at your church to join, and post a lot! (Or if you don't want of course you don't have to... lol.) God Bless you! And welcome! Thank you tiffanybw for your warm welcome here! I was moved to tears when I read your post, it's so encouraging to see the hand of our great god in our lives. And your experience confirms to me, that engagement in bible study, namely prophecy is a great tool to draw the people near and nearer to Jesus! Even unbelievers are open for talks about that and I see the whole REV12 thing as a great opportunity to reach out to the (unbelieving) world and spreading the gospel. The church has still a job to do, as Jesus said in Matthew 28,19-20: Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. And Jesus should find his body at work not sleeping or counting the seconds with a cocktail in the one hand and the legs on the table... I'm not a big fan of Joel Richardson, but he made a very compelling (to me) statement in "The Forge Episode 1". And yes, I WTWT.... As Chuck Missler stated, we are called to be Bereans and should hold fast was is good. Said with my own words, it summarizes like: "It does not matter if you are pretrib or posttrib. The essential thing is the application of your belief. If you are a pretribber and the application is to stop working because Jesus is to come very soon, tzhen this is the false application. The wrong application for posttribbers maybe to build bunkers and hide themselves in expectation of the coming tribulation. The correct application would be to be a watchman, praying and to reach out and share the gospel with the unbelievers."
I guess this is, what we all are committed to do in the next weeks and months. And hopefully our coming LORD will greet us with "well done, good and faithful servant" This would be the greatest commendation for me. Awaiting his soon return Excellent post! And the part I underlined, just spot on! Brothers and Sisters in Christ spend so much time arguing about this subject. It doesn't matter! What matters is where your heart is, and that your heart and your intention in seeking Jesus... not only because you want to avoid God's Wrath and Tribulation, not because you want to run about doing whatever you please and so you give your heart to The Lord so that you can sin all you want, not to build bunkers to hide in... but because you genuinely and with all your heart, mind, body, and spirit, love Jesus and want to spend eternity with Him! And in the meantime, like you said, Matthew 28:19-20.
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 8, 2017 13:00:01 GMT -6
Whoa, they all just disappeared. Must have just set them to private. Hmm... very interesting .... Since there is about two videos of Chuck's Revelation series which talks of Rev 12 birth being a possible rapture of church. Plus a whole set of videos which Chuck speaks of glowing terms of the Mazzoroth which is the Hebrew Zodiac.... I know Forge 4 -- received many comments pointing to old Videos of Dr. Missler -- that basically contradicted what Ron's said in Forge 4..... Maybe they are tring to hide the evidence first.......... The way I look at it, and not only this but SO MANY other things in life, about other's, even concerning my extended family... Let them do what they will do. I am DONE worrying about them, have no desire or need to argue with them, and time is TOO SHORT. You say you are right? Ok. Whatever. I'll pray for you because I know for a fact you are not right. Neither am I, by the way. (oops and edit one more time lol because want to make sure you know this not directed at you kjs, the "you" doesn't mean YOU... ha, ha) If they want to spend all of their time trying to prove themselves aka sinful man, "right". If that is all that matters to them, that they have "a view" and that ONLY "their view" is the right view... and they want to spend this short time we are given here on earth proving "themselves", their opinions, their perceptions, their own view on The Gospel, on Jesus, on stars in the heavens, on signs in the sky and seasons, on this upcoming eclipse, on the Revelation 12 sign, on whatever... let them do it, let them do whatever "they choose" to do, judge whom they choose to judge, let them scream to the heavens that "only they" are right. So pointless. Because if that is what they are doing, they are so mistaken. It is not about "being right". It is about knowing Jesus, more and more of Him, recognizing that no matter where we are at in our walk with Him we are NOT fully mature. There is still much growing to do, so much still to learn from Him, and even when we get to Heaven and are with Him physically, I believe anyways, that there will still be so much learning and growing to do. So, I'll save them all the trouble. I haven't always been like this, in fact, have cared very much in the past that I've been seen as "right", that other people see me as "right". Know where that got me? NOWHERE. I sat stagnant in other people's sin, and in my own, and because of it my relationship with Jesus became also stagnant. And so I am here to tell Kiononia House and ALL of the world, all of the earth, and all of the heavens... I am wrong. I am SO WRONG. I don't "know" anything EXCEPT Jesus Crucified for me on the Cross. And as for me, I'm done with my days of continually trying to prove my sinful and corrupt self right. If that is what they want to do, if that is what anyone wants to do... have at it. There is something so HUGE that they are missing over there. That something is... it is NOT about Revelation 12 sign. It is not about pre-trib, mid-trib, pre-wrath, post-trib. It is not about anything EXCEPT realizing the ONLY ONE(S) who are right... Yahweh, Yeshua, and Ruah HaKodesh! Yeshua Jesus is the ONLY way. He is the ONLY one who is "right". If you are human, you are WRONG. And so... get. over. it. And start focusing on what is important which is NOT whether or not it is accurate and true that that is the Revelation 12 sign in the sky right now, and if it is that means September 23 is the exact day Jesus is coming for us. So many do not get... that Scottie, and everyone else researching this... they are NOT date setting. What they are doing, studying God's Word, seeing what God has to say about His Own Word instead of listening to what "man" has to say about it, and as is said on another thread the quote by Isaac Newton about a group being raised up in end times to insist upon the LITERAL interpretation of God's Word; I believe many of us here are of that group and there are also many that are not members of this forum but that are of that group. All of that is what this is about. We can't be "wrong" because we are not proclaiming to be "right" about anything. We are simply delving into God's Living Word, and asking Him to teach us. We are growing closer, and closer, and closer to Him! And let me tell you, to whomever is not doing that, you are missing out BIG TIME! It is not about being right. It is about knowing The Lord. Edit to add: If there were a person, any person out there, who was indeed "right", then they could get in to Heaven by their own works and ability to follow God's Law. They wouldn't need what Jesus did in sacrificing Himself upon the Cross for us. And so, to anyone proclaiming anything other than Jesus on the Cross to be the only "right", that their opinion is the only right one (no matter the subject matter); be very careful. Because my question for you is: Are you relying on Jesus and what He did for you? Or are you relying upon yourself and your being right?
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Post by kjs on Aug 8, 2017 14:34:44 GMT -6
Would like to change just one thing from your post....
instead of "I don't "know" anything EXCEPT Jesus Crucified for me on the Cross. "
Change it to
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
Or as Steve Green Sings it
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Post by yardstick on Aug 8, 2017 21:59:29 GMT -6
Stephan, welcome to the forum! What a wonderful thing it is to me to see that believers in Jesus from all over the world are coming here to the forum to share our love for the Lord and our desire for His soon coming. My husband works for a company that has ties to Germany. He frequently speaks to people in Biberach. He doesn't actually know the German language, but has learned a few phrases and likes to learn new words. Duolingo.com whatif! super easy to learn one of the languages there. They teach German! its FREE.
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Post by whatif on Aug 8, 2017 22:33:04 GMT -6
That's wonderful, yardstick! I'll have to take a look at that!
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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 8, 2017 22:35:49 GMT -6
I tried going into duolingo.com and tried the test to see how good my Hebrew was, and it didn't allow me any way to type in Hebrew letters, and therefore penalized me for my efforts. Not a good start.
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Post by yardstick on Aug 8, 2017 22:40:45 GMT -6
I tried going into duolingo.com and tried the test to see how good my Hebrew was, and it didn't allow me any way to type in Hebrew letters, and therefore penalized me for my efforts. Not a good start. i think you have to have your comp keyboard set for that. try using the cell phone app
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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 8, 2017 23:17:25 GMT -6
Sorry, my phone is a piece of junk for that kind of thing--if something isn't laptop friendly, I'm out of luck. :/
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Post by Natalie on Aug 9, 2017 8:02:11 GMT -6
When I looked at duolingo (to use for homeschooling) they hadn't gotten the Hebrew done yet so it didn't work right. I thought it would be fun to learn a bit.
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Post by yardstick on Aug 9, 2017 11:14:43 GMT -6
When I looked at duolingo (to use for homeschooling) they hadn't gotten the Hebrew done yet so it didn't work right. I thought it would be fun to learn a bit. I havent had any trouble using the Hebrew one on my phone. The touchscreen keyboard just has to be toggled to the hebrew alphabet.
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Post by Natalie on Aug 9, 2017 11:17:03 GMT -6
When I looked at duolingo (to use for homeschooling) they hadn't gotten the Hebrew done yet so it didn't work right. I thought it would be fun to learn a bit. I havent had any trouble using the Hebrew one on my phone. The touchscreen keyboard just has to be toggled to the hebrew alphabet. Ok thanks! I'll have to check it out again.
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Post by yardstick on Aug 9, 2017 11:51:06 GMT -6
When I looked at duolingo (to use for homeschooling) they hadn't gotten the Hebrew done yet so it didn't work right. I thought it would be fun to learn a bit. I havent had any trouble using the Hebrew one on my phone. The touchscreen keyboard just has to be toggled to the hebrew alphabet. er... I should point out that you'll need the app, not the website.
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