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Post by whatif on Aug 6, 2017 14:21:02 GMT -6
Stephan, welcome to the forum! What a wonderful thing it is to me to see that believers in Jesus from all over the world are coming here to the forum to share our love for the Lord and our desire for His soon coming.
My husband works for a company that has ties to Germany. He frequently speaks to people in Biberach. He doesn't actually know the German language, but has learned a few phrases and likes to learn new words.
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 6, 2017 14:46:08 GMT -6
All of this happening in God's Church... I don't even look at all of it as simply the "Revelation 12 sign". It's NOT just that sign. It is everything that is happening right now, everything. It's also what The Holy Spirit is speaking to me personally. He's not telling me... "Hey Tiff. That is the Revelation 12 sign in the sky and I am going to rapture you on September 23." What He is telling me is to watch! Because He is coming soon! Regarding Scottie, he happened to be the vessel (the individual) that Jesus used to get this message out. Does that make Scottie special? Sure. But it's not about him nor any of the other's who have spent so much time researching this. Scottie is not what or who is important. What is? It is the message and the convergence of so many things happening right now; on earth and in the heavens. Also how what is happening on earth and in the heavens all lines up with the Bible and what is foretold in the Bible, what the Bible says will happen in end times. This is my first post here in this forum, so please bear with me. I am from Germany and a follower of Yeshua since about 40 years now. Biblical prophecy has always been very interesting for me and I read many books about. I am reading here since several months and in my eyes this is one of the most Christ-like forums I ever found. This can be seen in all discussions here and this should be how we as representatives of Christ should be recognized by the world. And all subjects here are edifying in one or another biblical manner. In the last months we started a small group in our church here trying to remind the sleeping church of biblical prophecy and endtimes issues. Sadly enough, most churches here in Germany do not address these topics in their teachings or sermons.... So we decided to take action on oneself (I am not the pastor of our church....). We are addressing even the REV12 sign and many other things after laying a solid groundwork by proofing and proclaiming the inerrability of the Scripture. The response was overwhelming and showed us a big hunger and need for proper teaching on these topics.
One thing we also stressed is the convergence of the signs and the many things happening all around us. In my humble opinion this point often falls into oblivion what in turn maybe the reason why several heated discussions take place especially because over the REV12 sign. As tiffanybw in her great post stated, everything has to line up. The evidence for something big happening in sept 2017 or some weeks/months later builds up with every day. But we all are fallible sinners (though saved) and we need to search the Scriptures every day and ask the Holy Spirit for guidance. I understand the caution some teachers show in regard to the REV12 sign. In the past, too often claims were made "Rapture to be expected on xxxxx" and nothing happened. But as far as I have seen the "handling" of this REV12 sign here on this website (as well as on rev12daily, watchfortheday, and some others) I am of good cheer that the outcome will be a good one. No date setting was ever made, no one claimed to be a prophet and that's a big plus! The engagement with this sign and all other surrounding topics leads to a intensive reading of the Scriptures as far as I can say for myself. What if nothing happens around 23rd?
You know the Chronicles of Narnia "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader"? The mouse Reepicheep made a very impressive statement nearly at the end of the story.... Those who know this will unterstand
Blessings in Christ Stephan
God Bless you, your pastor, your church, and all in Germany Stephan! *big hugs to everyone in Germany from the USA* I loved reading this, every word! I'm not familiar with the Chronicles of Narnia though and so I'm not sure what the mouse said at the end. I am soon to go look it up though! Welcome to this awesome forum! I'm new also, and I feel the exact same as you about this place. I think this is only my 2nd week here, and as soon as I found this forum I signed up and started reading. You are right, it is the convergence of everything. Not just the Revelation 12 sign, but everything... in my city, in my state, in my country, in your country, in the WORLD, on the earth, in the Heavens... AND how it all lines up with The Bible, God's Infallible and Living Word! It's so exciting, incredible, amazing, sobering, attention getting, overwhelming, and scary! Yes, scary, at least for me. That part, because I am a sinful human and anything unknown is scary. But mostly because I fear for so many that I love so much. So many of them do not take any of this seriously, don't take me seriously and brush me off, quickly change subject, probably think of me as some kind of crazy person. You know what though? I. Don't. Care. I'm not perfect (yet) and so I still do get wrapped up in the things of the world and struggle with it. I can say 100% though, that it is not at all as much of a struggle as it used to be. I have such a hunger and a thirst for more, and more, and more of Yahweh, of Yeshua! I'll sit and read my Bible, or research scripture/these things online (which is how I found this place); and before I know it, HOURS have passed and it seems like it's only been a minute. At night I have to force myself to close my Bible, or to close my laptop (and it's NOT because I'm on Facebook, in fact I completely DELETED that). Either that, or I get to the point to where my body is so exhausted that I'm fighting with myself to stay awake and so I listen and go to sleep (very quickly and I used to have insomnia badly; not anymore lol)! I am not as far as you in my walk with the Lord, only since 2010, so 7 years. The best 7 years of my life and I do wonder constantly why on earth I fought with Jesus so long before giving my heart to Him; because if I hadn't so much could have been so different. Does no good to fret over that though, and so I not only enjoy my new life in Christ, but want more, more, more, want Him to change me more to be like He is, to know more of Him, to know more about Him and I want to know everything! I can say that at first it went slowly because there were many strongholds of sin in my life which Jesus had to and He did deal with (OH DID HE)!!! It's only since, not sure exactly but maybe January or February, that I heard about the Revelation 12 sign, went to youtube, watched some of Scottie's videos. And just like you, because of it... or really because of The Holy Spirit I think... just ignited in me this passion and desire that just like with you, led to me delving intensely into Scripture, into God's AWESOME Word! I'm ashamed to say that sometimes I used to look at reading the Bible like a chore, as something I really didn't feel like doing but I knew it was what was best for me and so I did it. That, and I used to rely so much on other people's interpretations of God's Word. I have the Through the Bible commentary by Vernon McGee and so I would study His Word using that. It was great, and I'm NOT knocking Vernon McGee because I believe he was a great man of God, and used by God. I have learned so much because of him and I am thankful for that. But what the Revelation 12 sign started in my life... just this insatiable thirst for His Word and I didn't want to know what any other man had to say about it. I wanted to know what The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit had to say about it! Ever since, I haven't stopped, pray that He will lead me each and every time I open up my Bible, that He will tell me what HE wants to tell me. No one else, nothing else... just HIM. Just like you said, we need to read, to study, to pray EVERY DAY. Not just go to church once a week. (In fact, with the current options available church wise; because it is not any better here in the US than it is in Germany as far as finding a church; and I wish your church was in my town because I'd be there so fast... I wish I could find a church like this forum.) Anyways, happy to have found this place and for now kind of this place is like my church. This and some people I follow on youtube. Other than that, it is me, my Bible, and Jesus! Just like you said, seems like more and more every day we find more that points to this time, right now, maybe even this fall (September)! Whether or not Jesus comes exactly then or not, it's not going to change a thing for me (except if He does I'll be with Him and DONE with this fallen world). His coming is imminent and until He does come, I plan on living every day like He might be coming TODAY. My life, my relationship with Him, has truly been forever changed. There are no words to express how much I love Him!!! And so until He comes I just want to become closer and closer to Him, for Him to use me in whatever way He Wants and to fulfill whatever His Purpose is for me. It is so good to "meet" you here on this forum and I think someday very soon in (perfectly perfected) person! It's awesome to hear how Yeshua is moving, not only here in the US, but in Germany, and I'll bet everywhere else too! Come back and visit this forum often, invite our brothers and sisters at your church to join, and post a lot! (Or if you don't want of course you don't have to... lol.) God Bless you! And welcome!
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 6, 2017 15:31:15 GMT -6
Nice to meet you, Stephan! That's awesome that you and your group managed to spread the teachings of prophecy! I wish that I knew anyone around me that even liked prophecy. You have very good English; I would have not known you were German! Everything you have said is very true. "While I can, I sail east in the Dawn Treader. When she fails me, I paddle east in my coracle. When she sinks, I shall swim east with my four paws. And when I can swim no longer, if I have not reached Aslan's country, or shot over the edge of the world in some vast cataract, I shall sink with my nose to the sunrise and Peepiceek will be head of the talking mice in Narnia." -Reepicheep Ahhhh! Thank you, that is what Reepicheep said. Amen, Reepicheep! Yesterday, today, and tomorrow... so shall it be! I've never seen those movies, maybe I should see about watching them.
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Post by hillary on Aug 6, 2017 16:06:57 GMT -6
... I'm new also, and I feel the exact same as you about this place. I think this is only my 2nd week here, and as soon as I found this forum I signed up and started reading. You are right, it is the convergence of everything. Not just the Revelation 12 sign, but everything... in my city, in my state, in my country, in your country, in the WORLD, on the earth, in the Heavens... AND how it all lines up with The Bible, God's Infallible and Living Word! It's so exciting, incredible, amazing, sobering, attention getting, overwhelming, and scary! I’ve only read a few of your posts but you and Gary and Beloved and Whatif and WatchmanJim and *so many others* are all such dear souls and I long to sit down and have real conversations with each of you. I’m still learning to navigate this forum and tend to hold back a bit in public spaces (more of a one on one kinda girl) but I’m really grateful to be a witness of the journey and know that I’m not alone in these times. God bless you, Tiffanybw, welcome & a big warm hug! SaveSave
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 16:19:35 GMT -6
Well, we can meet up after the Rapture, or on the video thing we are doing!
God bless you, Hillary, and thank you.
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Post by hillary on Aug 6, 2017 16:22:48 GMT -6
Well, we can meet up after the Rapture, or on the video thing we are doing! God bless you, Hillary, and thank you. Video thing? Tell me more! (Not trying to derail thread...) God bless you too! SaveSave
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 16:24:32 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 9:22:44 GMT -6
Nice to meet you, Stephan! That's awesome that you and your group managed to spread the teachings of prophecy! I wish that I knew anyone around me that even liked prophecy. You have very good English; I would have not known you were German! Everything you have said is very true. "While I can, I sail east in the Dawn Treader. When she fails me, I paddle east in my coracle. When she sinks, I shall swim east with my four paws. And when I can swim no longer, if I have not reached Aslan's country, or shot over the edge of the world in some vast cataract, I shall sink with my nose to the sunrise and Peepiceek will be head of the talking mice in Narnia." -Reepicheep YEP! That's it! Thank you for posting the original citation. And thank you all dear brethren and sisters for the warm welcome here. I hope we all meet face to face in the very near future, but if not, then see Reepicheeps motto above
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 9:52:24 GMT -6
Just like you said, we need to read, to study, to pray EVERY DAY. Not just go to church once a week. (In fact, with the current options available church wise; because it is not any better here in the US than it is in Germany as far as finding a church; and I wish your church was in my town because I'd be there so fast... I wish I could find a church like this forum.) Anyways, happy to have found this place and for now kind of this place is like my church. This and some people I follow on youtube. Other than that, it is me, my Bible, and Jesus! Just like you said, seems like more and more every day we find more that points to this time, right now, maybe even this fall (September)! Whether or not Jesus comes exactly then or not, it's not going to change a thing for me (except if He does I'll be with Him and DONE with this fallen world). His coming is imminent and until He does come, I plan on living every day like He might be coming TODAY. My life, my relationship with Him, has truly been forever changed. There are no words to express how much I love Him!!! And so until He comes I just want to become closer and closer to Him, for Him to use me in whatever way He Wants and to fulfill whatever His Purpose is for me. It is so good to "meet" you here on this forum and I think someday very soon in (perfectly perfected) person! It's awesome to hear how Yeshua is moving, not only here in the US, but in Germany, and I'll bet everywhere else too! Come back and visit this forum often, invite our brothers and sisters at your church to join, and post a lot! (Or if you don't want of course you don't have to... lol.) God Bless you! And welcome! Thank you tiffanybw for your warm welcome here! I was moved to tears when I read your post, it's so encouraging to see the hand of our great god in our lives. And your experience confirms to me, that engagement in bible study, namely prophecy is a great tool to draw the people near and nearer to Jesus! Even unbelievers are open for talks about that and I see the whole REV12 thing as a great opportunity to reach out to the (unbelieving) world and spreading the gospel. The church has still a job to do, as Jesus said in Matthew 28,19-20: Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. And Jesus should find his body at work not sleeping or counting the seconds with a cocktail in the one hand and the legs on the table... I'm not a big fan of Joel Richardson, but he made a very compelling (to me) statement in "The Forge Episode 1". And yes, I WTWT.... As Chuck Missler stated, we are called to be Bereans and should hold fast was is good. Said with my own words, it summarizes like: "It does not matter if you are pretrib or posttrib. The essential thing is the application of your belief. If you are a pretribber and the application is to stop working because Jesus is to come very soon, tzhen this is the false application. The wrong application for posttribbers maybe to build bunkers and hide themselves in expectation of the coming tribulation. The correct application would be to be a watchman, praying and to reach out and share the gospel with the unbelievers." I guess this is, what we all are committed to do in the next weeks and months. And hopefully our coming LORD will greet us with "well done, good and faithful servant" This would be the greatest commendation for me. Awaiting his soon return
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Post by Gary on Aug 7, 2017 10:03:21 GMT -6
Welcome Stephan! I can't tell you how encouraging it is to hear from other Believers fighting in the trenches in other countries. This is a war and we aim to win it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 10:40:25 GMT -6
Stephan, welcome to the forum! What a wonderful thing it is to me to see that believers in Jesus from all over the world are coming here to the forum to share our love for the Lord and our desire for His soon coming. My husband works for a company that has ties to Germany. He frequently speaks to people in Biberach. He doesn't actually know the German language, but has learned a few phrases and likes to learn new words. whatif, thank you very much for your warm welcome here! And yes, it is wonderful being connected with followers like you from all over the world. I haven't found such a overwhelming bunch of absolutely Scripture based information on endtimes topics on german websites. There are some, but I realized most if not all of them are simply copies or repostings. So I decided to go to the source If your husband wants to learn a few more german words or phrases, you are always welcome, feel free to ask me.
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Post by uscgvet on Aug 7, 2017 19:22:38 GMT -6
LOL, someone at KHouse youtube is uploading all of Dr. Missler's Revelation videos... They are prepping for something!
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Post by socalexile on Aug 7, 2017 19:28:40 GMT -6
LOL, someone at KHouse youtube is uploading all of Dr. Missler's Revelation videos... They are prepping for something! Maybe another rebuttal...
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Post by uscgvet on Aug 7, 2017 19:30:58 GMT -6
LOL, someone at KHouse youtube is uploading all of Dr. Missler's Revelation videos... They are prepping for something! Maybe another rebuttal... Whoa, they all just disappeared. Must have just set them to private.
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Post by whatif on Aug 7, 2017 21:28:02 GMT -6
Stephan, welcome to the forum! What a wonderful thing it is to me to see that believers in Jesus from all over the world are coming here to the forum to share our love for the Lord and our desire for His soon coming. My husband works for a company that has ties to Germany. He frequently speaks to people in Biberach. He doesn't actually know the German language, but has learned a few phrases and likes to learn new words. whatif, thank you very much for your warm welcome here! And yes, it is wonderful being connected with followers like you from all over the world. I haven't found such a overwhelming bunch of absolutely Scripture based information on endtimes topics on german websites. There are some, but I realized most if not all of them are simply copies or repostings. So I decided to go to the source If your husband wants to learn a few more german words or phrases, you are always welcome, feel free to ask me. Thank you so much, stephan! How would you say, "Even so, come, Lord Jesus!"
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