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Post by socalexile on Mar 29, 2022 5:59:34 GMT -6
Russia has 1.4 million troops. They only sent in what ... 150k troops into Ukraine? Russia is just fine. MSM is feeding you propaganda. They're having problems supplying what they have in country, but they can send in MORE? Please do Russia, you would lose the war as soon as you did. I don't think those numbers actually exist. Sure they COULD call up 1.4 million, but most of those troops exist only on paper and as a fraudulent paycheck. The vast majority of their actual tanks are old hulks rusting in fields. What they've committed to Ukraine is what they have, and their army had to call up a lot of conscripts to even fill that. They even sent out press gangs to fill uniforms. Meanwhile, they had to pull troops from Syria, Chechnya, occupied Georgia, Armenia, to do what they've accomplished so far. It's 180k-200k troops in Ukraine, but even with Russia's own numbers they've lost at least 20% of those in a month, KIA and WIA. Keep in mind that not all of those are combat troops - most are support troops unequipped and untrained to take objectives, as are the combat enablers (helicopters, artillery, etc.). It comes down to infantry and armor, and you need them both working together, which they STILL aren't doing effectively. It's painfully obvious that Russia has lied and put up a false narrative on their military power. They've lost elite units (1st Guards, 4th Guards, numerous VDV units). Their tanks are recycled from the 60's and 70's, and the ones designed since 1965 weren't all that great when they were new. BTW there's a lot of pics of BMDs and BMPs with the upper hull blown clean off along the welds - which means they've been built with substandard quality - keeping a tradition that goes back to the WWII T-34. Sheer numbers don't win modern wars - anyone that makes the "quantity has a quality all it's own" argument has no clue what they are talking about, they just heard that on the History Channel along with a lot of false claims and they assume it's true. I think as far as prophecy goes you're trying to cram a square peg in a round hole because you are so utterly convinced you have it right that you're just ignoring what's actually going on at this point. Russia is losing ground everywhere except Mariupol. Demographically they've already lost. Russia is a third-world power trying to relive it's glory days using 30-60 year old equipment.  |
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Post by socalexile on Mar 29, 2022 6:52:10 GMT -6
The Russians after the 1st week:  Where they are now; "Forward Operating Areas" means areas where Russia is moving troops/conducting operations but does not control (driving down a road doesn't make that road and the area around it under an attacker's control):  |
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Post by mike on Mar 29, 2022 7:29:59 GMT -6
socalexile , what do you think about this article? I think there is some opinion mixed in with the 'facts' but the dichotomy alarming www.jns.org/opinion/bidens-unconscionable-empowerment-of-both-russia-and-iran/Biden calls Putin a war-criminal and cant remain in power, but is allowing his regime to be the watchdog over Irans nuke program? From the article: The reported terms of the deal being negotiated in Vienna will allow Iran legitimately to equip itself with a nuclear arsenal after a mere delay—according to Israel’s Prime Minister Naftali Bennett—of two-and-a-half years. Meanwhile, through the associated sanctions relief America will enable the regime to receive an estimated $100 billion to ramp up its regional power grab; redouble its terrorist activities; and perpetrate attacks on Israel from its proxies in Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq and Yemen. (I underlined this to stand out as opinion-likely true but...) The United States is even said to be considering lifting the designation of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) as a terrorist organization in return for some vague commitment by Tehran to rein it in. Even worse is that while Biden is instructing the world to impose sanctions against Russia, his administration is actually working closely with Russia to lift sanctions against Iran. Since Iran has refused to deal directly with the United States in Vienna, the Biden administration last year asked Russia to take over leadership of those negotiations. That was bad enough; but yet worse again was to come.
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Post by socalexile on Mar 29, 2022 9:17:22 GMT -6
Israel won't allow that to happen. What they'll do about it this time I have no way of knowing.
I will say that I don't think Revelation is entirely written to Gentiles.
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Post by uscgvet on Mar 29, 2022 15:09:39 GMT -6
Russia has 1.4 million troops. They only sent in what ... 150k troops into Ukraine? Russia is just fine. MSM is feeding you propaganda. They're having problems supplying what they have in country, but they can send in MORE? Please do Russia, you would lose the war as soon as you did. I don't think those numbers actually exist. Sure they COULD call up 1.4 million, but most of those troops exist only on paper and as a fraudulent paycheck. The vast majority of their actual tanks are old hulks rusting in fields. What they've committed to Ukraine is what they have, and their army had to call up a lot of conscripts to even fill that. They even sent out press gangs to fill uniforms. Meanwhile, they had to pull troops from Syria, Chechnya, occupied Georgia, Armenia, to do what they've accomplished so far. It's 180k-200k troops in Ukraine, but even with Russia's own numbers they've lost at least 20% of those in a month, KIA and WIA. Keep in mind that not all of those are combat troops - most are support troops unequipped and untrained to take objectives, as are the combat enablers (helicopters, artillery, etc.). It comes down to infantry and armor, and you need them both working together, which they STILL aren't doing effectively. It's painfully obvious that Russia has lied and put up a false narrative on their military power. They've lost elite units (1st Guards, 4th Guards, numerous VDV units). Their tanks are recycled from the 60's and 70's, and the ones designed since 1965 weren't all that great when they were new. BTW there's a lot of pics of BMDs and BMPs with the upper hull blown clean off along the welds - which means they've been built with substandard quality - keeping a tradition that goes back to the WWII T-34. Sheer numbers don't win modern wars - anyone that makes the "quantity has a quality all it's own" argument has no clue what they are talking about, they just heard that on the History Channel along with a lot of false claims and they assume it's true. I think as far as prophecy goes you're trying to cram a square peg in a round hole because you are so utterly convinced you have it right that you're just ignoring what's actually going on at this point. Russia is losing ground everywhere except Mariupol. Demographically they've already lost. Russia is a third-world power trying to relive it's glory days using 30-60 year old equipment. <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> I recommend changing where you source your "intel". Propaganda isn't actual truth. Here's a 2020 Congressional Research Report made by Congress on Russia's military. crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11625#:~:text=Russia%20has%20expanded%20its%20military%20capabilities%20over%20the,and%20intervention%20in%20Syria.%20Enhanced%20military%20capabilities%20have I love how they word this paragraph: Exactly what I was saying Russia is doing. The Mainstream Media, and what seems to be your sources of "intel", would have me believe that Russia is this weak, inept, derelict, pathetic thing using up whatever resources it has left on this invasion of Ukraine. Nope. Congress disagrees and sees Russia as a real threat. They are using cheap methods first, and if that doesn't work, they bring out the real upgraded stuff ... as needed of course. If that doesn't work, and their way of life is under threat, they warhawk the nukes.... maybe even use them if I've understood Jeremiah 4 correctly. Then we can say the eagle's wings have been "plucked" from the lion so to speak... |
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Post by uscgvet on Mar 29, 2022 18:50:06 GMT -6
For those of you who want real intel, here is what Congress reports on Russia's real army; nukes. Russia’s Nuclear Weapons: Doctrine, Forces, and Modernization Updated March 21, 2022 crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R45861This Ukraine invasion is just a trap, as Nancy Pelosi stated. I agree. It's a trap meant for the US. We're going to take the bait. |
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Post by socalexile on Mar 29, 2022 19:00:36 GMT -6
uscgvet, you're again reading what you want to read. A lot of stuff by supposed "experts" has been proven wrong in the last month, and a lot of them have been proven to be frauds - you can turn on Tucker Carlson to see them on display. It makes no sense to commit their elite units without the "real upgraded stuff" and watch them get slaughtered, then bring it out for the 2nd and 3rd string. The proper term for that is 'pants-on-head retarded'. Especially when intel knows there isn't any "real upgraded stuff" that's actually deployable. As I've already mentioned, their newest tank isn't ready, neither is their newest fighter. Otherwise what we've seen is the newer stuff. You can go through the list here: www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.htmlIf there's some "real upgraded stuff" that's not in Ukraine, then please let us know what it is. Also let us know what elite units will be using them, because pretty much what they have that's elite is in Ukraine. This is what you sound like on this subject:  This is how piss-poor the Russian military actually is: |
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Post by socalexile on Mar 29, 2022 19:20:43 GMT -6
For those of you who want real intel, here is what Congress reports on Russia's real army; nukes. Russia’s Nuclear Weapons: Doctrine, Forces, and Modernization Updated March 21, 2022 crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R45861This Ukraine invasion is just a trap, as Nancy Pelosi stated. I agree. It's a trap meant for the US. We're going to take the bait. Your link is a review of capabilities and doctrine, it doesn't actually back anything about strategy in Ukraine that you're asserting in this thread, nor does it actually give any intelligence on the actual disposition of the weapons it lists, which is classified. Right now it's Russia that's trapped. The Ukrainians are proving themselves capable and motivated with the use of western weaponry that NATO only has to supply and train them on, as well as western ISR. |
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Post by uscgvet on Mar 29, 2022 19:25:59 GMT -6
I'm not reading random arm-chair warrior articles posted on the web for click-bait AD revenue, or twitter accounts looking for likes, or YT personalities feeding their audiences biased fake news on what they want to hear.
I'm reading what is publicly passed on to US Congress.
I'm not asking for you to believe me, I'm showing you what Congress is basing their decisions on.
Or, at least, what they want the public to know they are basing their decisions on.
No need to attack me. Attack CRS.
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Post by yardstick on Mar 29, 2022 19:31:18 GMT -6
socalexile, uscgvet, Gentlemen, Please remember who you are, and where you are. Remember the Adversary is keen to get you into "...The acts of the flesh ... discord, jealousy, and rage; rivalries, divisions, factions..." (Gal 5:20) You should be comparing notes, and trying to figure out why the discrepancy exists... We know there are lies out there everywhere (propaganda); regardless of source. "In God We Trust, all others bring data." - W. Edwards Deming
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Post by uscgvet on Mar 29, 2022 19:45:45 GMT -6
uscgvet, you're again reading what you want to read. A lot of stuff by supposed "experts" has been proven wrong in the last month, and a lot of them have been proven to be frauds - you can turn on Tucker Carlson to see them on display. It makes no sense to commit their elite units without the "real upgraded stuff" and watch them get slaughtered, then bring it out for the 2nd and 3rd string. The proper term for that is 'pants-on-head retarded'. Especially when intel knows there isn't any "real upgraded stuff" that's actually deployable. As I've already mentioned, their newest tank isn't ready, neither is their newest fighter. Otherwise what we've seen is the newer stuff. You can go through the list here: www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.htmlIf there's some "real upgraded stuff" that's not in Ukraine, then please let us know what it is. Also let us know what elite units will be using them, because pretty much what they have that's elite is in Ukraine. This is what you sound like on this subject: <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> This is how piss-poor the Russian military actually is: "If there's some "real upgraded stuff" that's not in Ukraine, then please let us know what it is. " I'm just fulfilling your request: Pages 15-18 crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R45811The outdated 70's and 80's tanks they sent into Ukraine are not the expensive high-tech weapons Russia is holding back for the US for when we take the bait. |
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Post by socalexile on Mar 29, 2022 19:56:07 GMT -6
Watch this starting at 42:20, he's going to explain a serious problem with logistics and procedures with this Russian mortar team:
With US mortar doctrine, the cheese charges come packed with the round, so the mortarman doesn't have to tie the propellant on in a rag, and he can just pop off the ones he doesn't need quickly. The Russians, by tying the propellant in a rage and wrapping it on are taking an enormous amount of time for a very inconsistent result. That's seriously antiquated, just like the rusty mortar round he's using.
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Post by socalexile on Mar 29, 2022 20:02:06 GMT -6
I'm not reading random arm-chair warrior articles posted on the web for click-bait AD revenue, or twitter accounts looking for likes, or YT personalities feeding their audiences biased fake news on what they want to hear. I'm reading what is publicly passed on to US Congress. I'm not asking for you to believe me, I'm showing you what Congress is basing their decisions on. Or, at least, what they want the public to know they are basing their decisions on. No need to attack me. Attack CRS. What are you on about? You think that people who have actually been in the military and are actually doing the work geolocating and tracking Russian movements and losses don't know as much as you? What you posted was passed on to Congress is the staffer read-on introduction to what the actual intel is, which you nor I know anything about because it's TS/SCI. You posted it with an assertion that is not supported by that. It looks like you're trying to garner some clout for your claim, when there's a whole lot of OSINT out there contradicting it. You can't claim that it's 5 dimensional chess and Putin is really a mastermind working a chess board. That simply is a myth when talking about the head of one of the most corrupt militaries on the planet. |
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Post by uscgvet on Mar 29, 2022 20:08:38 GMT -6
I'm not reading random arm-chair warrior articles posted on the web for click-bait AD revenue, or twitter accounts looking for likes, or YT personalities feeding their audiences biased fake news on what they want to hear. I'm reading what is publicly passed on to US Congress. I'm not asking for you to believe me, I'm showing you what Congress is basing their decisions on. Or, at least, what they want the public to know they are basing their decisions on. No need to attack me. Attack CRS. What are you on about? You think that people who have actually been in the military and are actually doing the work geolocating and tracking Russian movements and losses don't know as much as you? What you posted was passed on to Congress is the staffer read-on introduction to what the actual intel is, which you nor I know anything about because it's TS/SCI. You posted it with an assertion that is not supported by that. It looks like you're trying to garner some clout for your claim, when there's a whole lot of OSINT out there contradicting it. You can't claim that it's 5 dimensional chess and Putin is really a mastermind working a chess board. That simply is a myth when talking about the head of one of the most corrupt militaries on the planet. I believe everything about what Russia sent into Ukraine was supposed to be old, dilapidated, and crappy. Why? "Russian military strategy prioritizes the threat of further punishment. It would introduce high-end conventional firepower when a low-cost strategy appears insufficient, and it could escalate or de-escalate force depending on the situation." -- crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11625Pages 1 and 2 That's their strategy. They sent in the crappy equipment first. The YT video you just posted on the old Russian mortar equipment in Ukraine just confirms the CRS Report from 2020. |
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Post by socalexile on Mar 29, 2022 20:14:09 GMT -6
"If there's some "real upgraded stuff" that's not in Ukraine, then please let us know what it is. " I'm just fulfilling your request: Pages 15-18 crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R45811The outdated 70's and 80's tanks they sent into Ukraine are not the expensive high-tech weapons Russia is holding back for the US for when we take the bait. First, you're assuming you know things that aren't actually in the report, like how many they have (they lie about numbers), how effective they actually are (they lie about that also), and how they perform versus what the US has. What are some "expensive high-tech weapons Russia is holding back for the US" that can take some ground? Kinzhals have been fired at Ukraine, and it isn't helping because you can't win a war by launching a few missiles. We learned this in Desert Storm and OIF. BTW ALL ballistic missiles are technically "hypersonic", so take the hype with a grain of salt - those reports are also there to sell weapons to Congress. Are you familiar with Maskirovka? |
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