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Post by socalexile on Mar 20, 2022 15:56:39 GMT -6
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Post by Gary on Mar 21, 2022 9:33:12 GMT -6
This definitely has my attention. Seeing Russian and Muslim armies now working in synchronicity... |
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Post by boraddict on Mar 21, 2022 17:12:33 GMT -6
Like a musical tune
you say tomato and I say tomoto,
you send your mercenaries to Ukraine
and I'll send my mercenaries to Ukraine
and let's pretend it is not a world war
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Post by Natalie on Mar 21, 2022 17:47:49 GMT -6
Some see Libya as Put
More players coming together?
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Post by socalexile on Mar 23, 2022 7:43:19 GMT -6
It might also be the case that there is only one Gog/Magog war and Ezekiel 38-39 happens at the end of the Millennium, in which the old gang gets back together.
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Post by schooldad3 on Mar 23, 2022 21:14:05 GMT -6
I think this post of needs to be removed. Russia looks nothing like the Gog of the bible. They look more like f troop. I have listed one problematic news post among many. Admit it Gary you got tricked by the enemy. Stop listening to the quacks posting here and read the actual news of what is going on. Russia is imploding internally with mass defections among its millitary. The Turks (the actually biblical Gog) have deployed weapons that the Russian military has no ability to stop. The Bayraktar TB2 drone. it obliterated the russian air defenses in armenia back in 2020 and it is doing even more now. www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-s-military-forces-russian-troops-east-of-kyiv-back-55-km-from-city-center/ar-AAVqkZH?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531 Russian troops taking up defensive positions and are even being pushed back by several kilometers. altlifeinsurance.com/2022/03/22/ukraines-drones-are-wreaking-havoc-on-the-russian-army/TB-2s belonging to the Ukrainian air force and navy in recent days have dismantled whole swathes of Russia’s front-line air-defense network and are now relentlessly smashing Russian tanks and supply trucks. Gary,And with credible reports that Turkey has sent fresh shipments of drones, it’s possible Kyiv’s drone campaign is just beginning. I have read other articles where Russian soldiers have turned on each other shot themselves to get out of the war and even run their commanders over with tanks. |
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Post by Job19 on Mar 23, 2022 22:30:37 GMT -6
Schooldad. You do not have any right to request that this thread to removed. May I remind you that this is a Christian forum where Christian Love and Respect go before any passionate or even dogmatic points of view on any subject. This forum is intended to be one in which iron sharpens iron and not a place of verbal bullying or coercion.
I notice that this posting is not the first of its kind and I would respectfully ask you to repent of this vexatious spirit and attitude towards fellow born again believers.
Many blessings
David
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Post by boraddict on Mar 24, 2022 8:47:43 GMT -6
I am also surprised at how the Russian military has under performed which is a good thing. But we are witnessing the reemergence of the old Soviet Union. The bear does indeed have three ribs in it's mouth with the two newly acknowledged states and the greater Ukraine.
We should see some kind of decision before the end of the summer.
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Post by stormyknight on Mar 24, 2022 11:37:55 GMT -6
"And we know that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him, who are called according to His purpose." Rom. 8:28Russia may look disorganized and weak at the moment, but we don't know about tomorrow. Perhaps they are meant to look weak and will begin to retreat back home when God will "put hooks in (his) jaws and bring (him) out." We don't know. Just think what Israel might have thought when Ezekiel prophesied to them: "My servant David will be king over them, and there will be one shepherd for all of them. They will follow My ordinances and keep and observe My statutes. They will live in the land that I gave to My servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They will live there forever with their children and grandchildren, and My servant David will be their prince forever."btw, boraddict, just a note, the bear w/three ribs in it's mouth of Daniel 7 is Persia, not Russia, and symbolized the second kingdom of the Earth, same as the chest and arms of silver of Nebuchadnezzar's dream statue. As the statue implies, the two arms comprise the two parts of that empire, Media and Persia. The bear rising up on one side implies one will be greater than the other, which turned out to be Persia. The three ribs comprise the kingdoms that were subdued to give Persia, "Empire" status, Lydia, Babylonia, and Egypt. "Rise up and devour..."
“Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!"
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Post by schooldad3 on Mar 24, 2022 19:49:42 GMT -6
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Post by socalexile on Mar 25, 2022 4:54:10 GMT -6
I think we need to relook the idea of "Rus" in Ezekiel 38 in light of actual history. Moscow is not ancient Rus, it's Muscovite, and is relatively new. Ancient Rus is older than Moscow but much, much newer than Ezekiel. "Rus" originally referred to "people who row" and formed between the 8th and 11th centuries when the Norse moved to the river areas between the Baltics and the Black sea and established Kyiv and became what MODERN historians call the Kievan Rus. Kiev was founded in 482AD, Moscow in the 12th century. "Rus" cannot be the ancient name spoken by Ezekiel, because even the people that became the Rus did not exist, neither was the location called Rus. It just didn't exist then. So either we have a translation problem or the names in Ezekiel are prophetic themselves. If you look into non-KJV translations, or even the Hebrew source text for the KJV, "chief of Rus" is not there: www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/eze/38/2/t_conc_840002It's a mistranslation. It says "chief prince". |
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Post by boraddict on Mar 25, 2022 20:24:32 GMT -6
Something is very wrong with this picture. Russia with 4,000 nukes will not turn down it's tail and run, so it is becoming very dangerous for the world. So while Turkey may have a go at the ending, the thing with Russia happens first. What is going to happen?
Russia withdraw? NO
Russia give up? NO
Russia loose the war? NO
Russia attack the U.S.? YES
Then Turkey will have it's way.
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Post by uscgvet on Mar 28, 2022 7:16:58 GMT -6
I think we need to relook the idea of "Rus" in Ezekiel 38 in light of actual history. Moscow is not ancient Rus, it's Muscovite, and is relatively new. Ancient Rus is older than Moscow but much, much newer than Ezekiel. "Rus" originally referred to "people who row" and formed between the 8th and 11th centuries when the Norse moved to the river areas between the Baltics and the Black sea and established Kyiv and became what MODERN historians call the Kievan Rus. Kiev was founded in 482AD, Moscow in the 12th century. "Rus" cannot be the ancient name spoken by Ezekiel, because even the people that became the Rus did not exist, neither was the location called Rus. It just didn't exist then. So either we have a translation problem or the names in Ezekiel are prophetic themselves. If you look into non-KJV translations, or even the Hebrew source text for the KJV, "chief of Rus" is not there: www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/eze/38/2/t_conc_840002It's a mistranslation. It says "chief prince". The fact that Meshech (Turkey - just west of Armenia) and Tubal (Armenia - just east of Turkey) were mentioned means we are talking about sons of Noah's son Japheth. rōš has many meanings in the OT, the primary meaning used in many verses was: "on top of" or "above" or "head" or "top of a summit". Russia is above, or on top of, or as a summit of a mountain top, or as "a head" above Turkey and Armenia where Turkey and Armenia appear as shoulders. You could literally draw a nice triangle between the capitals of Russia, Turkey, and Armenia and it would look like the shape of a tall mountain. The KJV translation of "chief prince" is just fine. That's the highest of them all, figurately and physically speaking. |
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Post by uscgvet on Mar 28, 2022 7:49:09 GMT -6
Russia has 1.4 million troops. They only sent in what ... 150k troops into Ukraine? Russia is just fine. MSM is feeding you propaganda. |
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Post by socalexile on Mar 29, 2022 5:35:10 GMT -6
I think we need to relook the idea of "Rus" in Ezekiel 38 in light of actual history. Moscow is not ancient Rus, it's Muscovite, and is relatively new. Ancient Rus is older than Moscow but much, much newer than Ezekiel. "Rus" originally referred to "people who row" and formed between the 8th and 11th centuries when the Norse moved to the river areas between the Baltics and the Black sea and established Kyiv and became what MODERN historians call the Kievan Rus. Kiev was founded in 482AD, Moscow in the 12th century. "Rus" cannot be the ancient name spoken by Ezekiel, because even the people that became the Rus did not exist, neither was the location called Rus. It just didn't exist then. So either we have a translation problem or the names in Ezekiel are prophetic themselves. If you look into non-KJV translations, or even the Hebrew source text for the KJV, "chief of Rus" is not there: www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/eze/38/2/t_conc_840002It's a mistranslation. It says "chief prince". The fact that Meshech (Turkey - just west of Armenia) and Tubal (Armenia - just east of Turkey) were mentioned means we are talking about sons of Noah's son Japheth. rōš has many meanings in the OT, the primary meaning used in many verses was: "on top of" or "above" or "head" or "top of a summit". Russia is above, or on top of, or as a summit of a mountain top, or as "a head" above Turkey and Armenia where Turkey and Armenia appear as shoulders. You could literally draw a nice triangle between the capitals of Russia, Turkey, and Armenia and it would look like the shape of a tall mountain. The KJV translation of "chief prince" is just fine. That's the highest of them all, figurately and physically speaking. Your favorite toy as a kid was Stretch Armstrong, wasn't it? Russia isn't at the top of anything right now, and certainly not of Turkey, who shut down the Bosporus to Russian warships and assisted Ukraine in building the drone that's tearing up Russian tank formations. |
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