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Post by boraddict on Feb 17, 2021 0:35:54 GMT -6
Thank you yardstick , and I will do that. There are many similarities between the trumpets and bowls and both of these appear to be actions of God. One thing that stands out to me is the reference to the people that take the mark of the beast in Rev. 16:2 that is the 1st bowl. If this applies to the beginning of the seven years then the mark of the beast must begin there. However, I am currently of the belief that the mark of the beast begins at or after the mid-point and the bowls would apply after that. This would seem to indicate that the seals and trumpets span the entire 7 years whereas the bowls are constrained to the second 3.5 year period of time. I do not know.... There do appear to be strong connections between Chapter 9 and Chapter 16 such that both chapters could place after the mid-point. Something like seals 1-4 and trumpets 1-4 take place in the 1st 3.5 years and then seals 5-7, trumpets 5-7, and bowls 1-7 take place in the 2nd 3.5 years. I am just guessing at this possibility and it is more than likely incorrect. Please consider the second seal followed by the second trumpet as follows: Rev. 6:4, "And out came another horse, bright red. Its rider was permitted to take peace from the earth, so that people should slay one another, and he was given a great sword." Rev. 8:8-9, "The second angel blew his trumpet, and something like a great mountain, burning with fire, was thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea became blood. A third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed." The seal would be the action that is allowed to occur and the trumpet would be God's response. Thus, the rider of the red horse takes peace from the earth and people slay one another, and God's response is that a great mountain burning was thrown into the sea killing one third of the creatures and ships of the sea. The bowl although similar states that "every living thing died in the sea" (Rev. 16:3) rather than simply one third as stated in Verse 8:8-9. So the bowl is much more destructive than the trumpet.
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Post by venge on Feb 17, 2021 8:05:42 GMT -6
boraddict, I would have to agree with yardstick, when he said: This is how I interpret Revelation. As most know, I don't take it literally because it is a book of symbols. But, the symbols have OT and NT meaning which is literal. Example: 1st Trumpet 1. Question 1: What is hail and fire mingled with blood? 2. Question 2: What does it mean to cast fire to the earth? 3. Question 3: Why would trees be burnt up or better yet, what are trees and what would their burning up/destruction mean? 4. Question 4: What does green grass mean in the OT and what does it's burning up mean? These are questions I asked myself years back and I have spread sheets detailing my findings such as: 1. A storm of hail is a representation of an invading army prior to war. Joel 1:4-6 Also look at Hosea 13:15, Job 27:21, Isa 30:30 (There are more I did not post) 2. People are like trees. There are tree's that bear fruit and tree's that do not. Jeremiah 17:8 says, He is like a tree planted by water, that sends out its roots by the stream, and does not fear when heat comes, for its leaves remain green, and is not anxious in the year of drought, for it does not cease to bear fruit. Psalms 1:3 He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers. 1 Chronicles 16:33 Then shall the trees of the forest sing for joy before the Lord, for he comes to judge the earth. Psalm 52:8 But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God. I trust in the steadfast love of God forever and ever. Even Nebuchadnezzar was a tree! In Daniel 4:14 - He cried aloud, and said thus, Hew down the tree, and cut off his branches, shake off his leaves, and scatter his fruit: let the beasts get away from under it, and the fowls from his branches: 1/3rd of human life will be destroyed as a result of war. 1/3rd of the trees that never bore fruit. Still unsure and think that literal trees are destroyed? Lets look at the scripture below: Ezekiel 31:14 To the end that none of all the trees by the waters exalt themselves for their height, neither shoot up their top among the thick boughs, neither their trees stand up in their height, all that drink water: for they are all delivered unto death, to the nether parts of the earth, in the midst of the children of men, with them that go down to the pit. The trees are men and trees do get destroyed because they are wicked and bear no fruit. Barnes commentary on Ezekiel 31:14 is: The substance is, that Assyria's fall was decreed in order that the mighty ones of the earth might learn not to exalt themselves in pride or to rely on themselves, seeing that they must share the common lot of mortality. 3. When we look at the green grass, the verse mentioned “all the green grass” would be burnt up. Let me purpose a question. If 1/3rd of literal trees burnt up, and 2/3rds lived, how would all green grass literally die with 2/3rd of trees living? If burning rocks crashed to earth causing that much damage to destroy all vegetation and 1/3rd of trees, why is there no loss of life listed? No animal fatalities? Isaiah 40:6 The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field: Isaiah 40:7 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.
Psalm 90:5 Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep: in the morning they are like grass which groweth up. 2 Kings 19:26 Therefore their inhabitants were of small power, they were dismayed and confounded; they were as the grass of the field, and as the green herb, as the grass on the housetops, and as corn blasted before it be grown up. Psalm 129:6 Let them be as the grass upon the housetops, which withereth afore it groweth up: Isaiah 37:27 Therefore their inhabitants were of small power, they were dismayed and confounded: they were as the grass of the field, and as the green herb, as the grass on the housetops, and as corn blasted before it be grown up. Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. ---Now I have much more, but I wanted to express how OT writers understood things in their environment and used that symbol to express literal truths. When we think of a vision (that is what John saw and wrote in), we think of those like Daniel who saw symbols that meant something. I am a firm believer that no one can understand Revelation in its entirety without utilizing the entire Bible. There are too many things in Revelation seen in the OT that can easily explain them.
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Post by boraddict on Feb 17, 2021 8:51:07 GMT -6
venge, I agree with everything you said. Do you see a connection between "the hail and fire mingled with blood", and "the ten horns ... burn (ing) her (Babylon) with fire" (Rev. 8:7, 17:16). That Verse 8:7 is speaking about the fall of Babylon? Where the hail is the beast and his ten horns, the fire is the burning of Babylon, and the blood is the followers of the beast. That they were "cast upon the earth" as in forced upon the earth causing the trees (leaders) and green grass (people) to be burned up (destroyed). Do you see Verse 8:7 as the fall of Babylon? Please notice that Rev. 8:8 is the fall of a nation where the great mountain (nation) burns and is cast into the sea (of mankind); the ash heap of history. Thus, the fall of Babylon precedes the fall of the great nation?
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Post by venge on Feb 18, 2021 8:07:22 GMT -6
venge , I agree with everything you said. Do you see a connection between "the hail and fire mingled with blood", and "the ten horns ... burn (ing) her (Babylon) with fire" (Rev. 8:7, 17:16). That Verse 8:7 is speaking about the fall of Babylon? Where the hail is the beast and his ten horns, the fire is the burning of Babylon, and the blood is the followers of the beast. That they were "cast upon the earth" as in forced upon the earth causing the trees (leaders) and green grass (people) to be burned up (destroyed). Do you see Verse 8:7 as the fall of Babylon? Please notice that Rev. 8:8 is the fall of a nation where the great mountain (nation) burns and is cast into the sea (of mankind); the ash heap of history. Thus, the fall of Babylon precedes the fall of the great nation? boraddict , I do see the first 4 Trumpets as Babylon's destruction. Each Trumpet portraying an effect on Babylon and its people. Why? Well, I didnt go into great detail above, but there are many links betwen the symbols involved in each Trumpet and their OT counterparts demonstrating the destruction of a city. Secondly, ealier on in Rev 8, it is said: What was the prayers of the saints? Rev 6: The word used for this judgment is "Orge". This is a specific rendered judgment. It is a type of wrath, but not an out poured vengeful wrath like "Thumos". This wrath isnt specifically about individual people like "out poured" wrath is. Babylon is told to exemplify the blood of those on the earth from the 5th seal martyrs. I dont take the hail as the beast and its ten horns. Though God can use other nations to accomplish his will. The hail motif foreshadows destruction. Hail would destroy crops. Crops are food of course but in symbols, crops describe a peoples prosperity. A good crop growth is nation that is full, wealthy and thriving. Failure of crops has the opposite effect. Just as a blight or hail would destroy crops, an attack by another nation would cause prosperity to dwindle, trade to cease, fear to take root and great uncertainty. All of this is foreshadowed before the first Trumpet in the 6th seal when people see this about to happen: When you get into the second trumpet, its evident the great burning mountain is the fall of Babylon. The mountain being a city and being cast into the sea, which is the nations of the world, to sink as to never rise again. Its destruction is permanent, lasting and forever. Do you remember the exodus account? This is when you need to ask questions such as, If 1/3rd the ships were destroyed and Revelation is a book of symbols, if we take this literally (without the symbols)...why didnt any man die? Sea life dies and ships destroyed, but no men die? As far as green grass goes, it's not just people. Grass is people...the green is what happens to grass when its fruitful. It denotes prosperity/happiness/well watered. All of that is lost and the grass dries up and is destroyed. This is why all GREEN grass is destroyed but not all trees. When grass is well lit from the sun, its grows. When our light is removed and there is a storm, a flood, snow, hail etc...grass turns a yellowish color.
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Post by boraddict on Feb 18, 2021 10:11:25 GMT -6
venge, thank you for that information. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that the first 4 trumpets are associated with the fall of Babylon. You said: "I do see the first 4 Trumpets as Babylon's destruction. Each Trumpet portraying an effect on Babylon and its people." However, you do not see Babylon falling during the first 4 seals but sometime after the 5th seal. You said: "Babylon is told to exemplify the blood of those on the earth from the 5th seal martyrs." The context of your quote in reference to Rev. 6:10 as follows: Thus, you are saying that the wrath being asked for by the 5th seal martyrs is for Babylon and not any specific group of people. Your position is supported by Rev. 18:20 wherein the Lord is saying that he has avenged those saints whom have fallen via Babylon at Rev. Rev. 17:6. From this is seems that those reverenced in Verse 17:6 are the 5th seal martyrs. Please notice that Babylon falls at Rev. 17:16 and this is expounded upon Chapter 18. However, included within the fall of Babylon is that she has become "the habitation of devils" (Rev. 18:2). From this are we to understand that Babylon has become the habitation of devils during the first 4 seals? That is, since the first 4 trumpets are associated with the fall of Babylon, then are the first 4 seals associated with Babylon becoming a habitation of devils?
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Post by venge on Feb 18, 2021 18:53:18 GMT -6
venge , thank you for that information. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that the first 4 trumpets are associated with the fall of Babylon. You said: "I do see the first 4 Trumpets as Babylon's destruction. Each Trumpet portraying an effect on Babylon and its people." However, you do not see Babylon falling during the first 4 seals but sometime after the 5th seal. You said: "Babylon is told to exemplify the blood of those on the earth from the 5th seal martyrs." The context of your quote in reference to Rev. 6:10 as follows: Thus, you are saying that the wrath being asked for by the 5th seal martyrs is for Babylon and not any specific group of people. Your position is supported by Rev. 18:20 wherein the Lord is saying that he has avenged those saints whom have fallen via Babylon at Rev. Rev. 17:6. From this is seems that those reverenced in Verse 17:6 are the 5th seal martyrs. Please notice that Babylon falls at Rev. 17:16 and this is expounded upon Chapter 18. However, included within the fall of Babylon is that she has become "the habitation of devils" (Rev. 18:2). From this are we to understand that Babylon has become the habitation of devils during the first 4 seals? That is, since the first 4 trumpets are associated with the fall of Babylon, then are the first 4 seals associated with Babylon becoming a habitation of devils? That depends. I do not take Babylon falls during any seals. If you look at Rev 14, Babylon's fall seems to place it after the 144k and before the mark of the beast and before the harvest of the earth. In Rev 19, Babylon's fall precedes Christ reign (7th Trumpet) Therefore, Babylon must fall before the 7th Trumpet but After the 6th seal. Since the 5th seal details what the saints cry for (vengeance), and vengeance belongs to the Lord, he repays them by Babylon's destruction because Babylon is said to be: He destroys her and thereby answers the prayers of those that cried out to him. That wrath is specified to their prayers and is not the wrath on wicked people he will remove from his Kingdom, which we are saved from. I take the seals as already opened at least the first 4, maybe 5. The 1st 4 are demonstrated as God's 4 sore judgments he uses. He has used those same entities since the early OT: Numbers or Deuteronomy. War, famine, pestilence and wild beasts that devour. I dont think any of the seals have anything to do with Babylon at all. The seals themselves safeguard the contents of the scroll; the Trumpets, bowls and the future Kingdom. The seals function against wickedness. Why was Christ able to break the seals? Because he wasnt wicked, he knew no sin. Not one of the judgments affected him. Those judgments affect mankind because of their wickedness. They are meant to bring them back to God, to demonstrate his power and authority, for them to repent and change. God held the deed till Christ was worthy to receive it, open it and eventually take the contents of it. I think people get very confused when they read because they focus on literal destruction of the planet to the point it is uninhabitable...which is incorrect because this earth will always be here. The point of that book is not utter destruction but the renewal of all things under Christ and his Kingdom come. Babylon is a habitation of devils, which is to say unclean spirits. Not black shades flying about or some mythical creature taking over your body. Literally unclean spirits of men, wicked, malicious and full of scorn. This system, called Babylon, is perplexing because does it exist now? Is it only in the future or does it exist for centuries? And the fact it is said to "come out of her MY people". Christians are in Babylon to some degree. Our brothers/sisters are somehow attached to Babylon much like Lot's wife. The only way to "come out of her" is to reject her. Its a hard thing to understand.
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Post by boraddict on Feb 19, 2021 8:19:29 GMT -6
Thank you venge . One thing that I noticed is that "the fall of Babylon" and "the destruction of Babylon" appear to be two different things. Please consider Chapter 18 wherein at Rev. 18:1 "Babylon is fallen" and then we are told that, in Babylon's fallen state, she is full of demons and foul spirits. Next, the Savior calls his people out of Babylon just prior to her destruction (Rev. 18:4). And a side note, I have always loved that verse. So if we apply that order to the seals and trumpets we have: Rev. 6:1-8, the fall of Babylon, wherein she becomes the habitation of devils and foul spirits (Rev. 17-18:3) Rev. 6:9-11, the call from the saints to God for the destruction of Babylon Rev. 6:12-17, an example of the wrath of God to establish the rhetorical question of who can live through the judgment Rev. 7, the call from God for the saints to come out of Babylon so that they can live through the judgment (Rev. 18:4) Rev. 8:1-6, judgment preparation Rev. 8:7-12, the destruction of Babylon (Rev. 18:5-24) From the above order we can summarize that the seals pertain to the fall of Babylon as follows: 1) the seals a)vv. 6:1-8, the fall of Babylon b) vv. 6:9-11, the call for Babylon's destruction c) vv. 6:12-17, an example of the coming wrath of God to develop the rhetorical question of who can live through the judgment d) vv. 7:1-17, God calls the saints out of Babylon e) vv. 8:1-6, judgment preparation 2) the trumpets a) vv. 8:7-12, the destruction of Babylon
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Post by venge on Feb 19, 2021 17:07:29 GMT -6
boraddict, I know many view Babylon differently. But I do not view the judgment on Babylon as something that we "live through". I understand Babylon's judgment as the destruction of free flowing trade, the economy, tourism etc...a downward spiral; possibly the wealthy nations. The lost will mourn over these losses and more so. But we arnt to mourn over the earth because the earth is enmity with God. So when we see the economy tank, 401ks dried up, job losses, trade shut down and so on and so forth. Do not cry and mourn and wonder when itll be over. Football, video games, the dance scene, and you can add whatever you want are part of the world. If you love them more then God, miss then when they are gone and their loss causes you to mourn...theres a deep problem in your spirit.
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Post by boraddict on Feb 20, 2021 0:35:46 GMT -6
boraddict , I know many view Babylon differently. But I do not view the judgment on Babylon as something that we "live through". I understand Babylon's judgment as the destruction of free flowing trade, the economy, tourism etc...a downward spiral; possibly the wealthy nations. The lost will mourn over these losses and more so. But we arnt to mourn over the earth because the earth is enmity with God. So when we see the economy tank, 401ks dried up, job losses, trade shut down and so on and so forth. Do not cry and mourn and wonder when itll be over. Football, video games, the dance scene, and you can add whatever you want are part of the world. If you love them more then God, miss then when they are gone and their loss causes you to mourn...theres a deep problem in your spirit. It seems that the fall of Babylon begins at the 1st seal and continues through the 4th seal. The saints would live through the fall of Babylon and then be called out to stand on the Mt as noted in Rev. 14:1. The flow of the verses beginning with Rev. 6:17, "for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?” followed by Chapter 7 wherein the saints are gathered and standing as represented in Verse 14:1. Also, it seems that the judgment upon Babylon begins at the 1st trumpet and continues through the 4th trumpet. This period would include the items that you have listed above. It seems that we are living through the fall of Babylon right now so we might be in the 1st or 2nd seal.
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Post by mike on Feb 20, 2021 9:32:04 GMT -6
Just a little tidbit I came upon last night that I thought to share here. venge said So the backstory...my wife and were watching some superhero show. I find these interesting sometimes and see the supernatural elements in them, although they are perverted by the prince of the power of the air. A main character in the show was called "the destroyer" so I chuckled snd said to my wife "shes the angel from the bottomless pit" and went on to read (as she paused the show) Rev 9:1 And the fifth messenger did sound, and I saw a star out of the heaven having fallen to the earth, and there was given to it the key of the pit of the abyss, 2 and he did open the pit of the abyss, and there came up a smoke out of the pit as smoke of a great furnace, and darkened was the sun and the air, from the smoke of the pit. 3 And out of the smoke came forth locusts to the earth, and there was given to them authority, as scorpions of the earth have authority, 4 and it was said to them that they may not injure the grass of the earth, nor any green thing, nor any tree, but — the men only who have not the seal of God upon their foreheads, 5 and it was given to them that they may not kill them, but that they may be tormented five months, and their torment [is] as the torment of a scorpion, when it may strike a man; 6 and in those days shall men seek the death, and they shall not find it, and they shall desire to die, and the death shall flee from them. 7 And the likenesses of the locusts [are] like to horses made ready to battle, and upon their heads as crowns like gold, and their faces as faces of men, 8 and they had hair as hair of women, and their teeth were as [those] of lions, 9 andthey had breastplates as breastplates of iron, and the noise of their wings [is] as the noise of chariots of many horses running to battle; 10 and they have tails like to scorpions, and stings were in their tails; and their authority [is] to injure men five months; 11 and they have over them a king — the messenger of the abyss — a name [is] to him in Hebrew, Abaddon, and in the Greek he hath a name, Apollyon.
As I read this out loud it became more evident to me that green grass, trees, green things do infact represent men. Right there in verse 4 the connection clear to me that those who men who have the seal of God on their foreheads are the green grass and trees of the earth. Also that they/we are not harmed by the locusts
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Post by boraddict on Feb 20, 2021 10:27:12 GMT -6
mike , that certainly nailed down the green grass and trees; that they are people in Rev. 8:7. Another thing of note from Rev. 9:4 is that the saints are not to be hurt, and I think that is because they are not available. They were gathered/called-out back in Chapter 7, and they, here in the 5th trumpet, are standing with Christ on the Mt. as shown in Rev. 14:1. I think that after Babylon receives her judgment (trumpets 1-4), then the earth is ravaged by madness as is shown in the 1st woe of Chapter 9 (5th trumpet). Since the saints were called out in the 6th seal, then they are gone during trumpets 1-5. The thing that distinguishes the 1st woe in Chapter 9 from the 2nd woe is that the 6th trumpet is told to loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. River typically mean an army that is on the move. So in response to the madness in the 1st woe then the Lord unleashes an army in the 2nd woe. This, God's army, that was bound back in Rev. 7:1-3 is the great river Euphrates that is the 144,000. These were gathered/called-out along with the saints as is shown in Chapter 7 and are now God's army here in the 2nd woe (6th trumpet). This coincides with Chapter 19 that shows the marriage and then the warfare. The marriage is Chapter 7 and then the warfare is the 2nd woe of Chapter 9.
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Post by Natalie on Feb 20, 2021 12:24:59 GMT -6
(ended up deleting what I had posted as upon studying things a bit, I answered my own question and it didn't add to the conversation... )
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Post by boraddict on Feb 20, 2021 13:47:44 GMT -6
I have been thinking about Chapter 14 and how it might fit into the afore mentioned scenario.
1) The 144,000 are standing at Mt. Zion (Rev. 14:1-5) with Christ and this of course is Chapter 7.
2) Then the angel flies through heaven (Rev. 14:6-7) and this relates to Rev. 8:13.
3) Then we have another angel at Rev. 14:8 saying that Babylon has fallen and this would be the 5th trumpet at Rev. 9:1. That is, Babylon has indeed fallen and this occurred back in the first 4 seals (Rev. 6:1-8) and Babylon has also been judged at the first 4 trumpets (Rev. 8:6-12), prior to Rev. 9:1. So the angel at Verse 14:8 / 9:1 can say that Babylon has fallen; past tense.
4) Next we have Rev. 14:9-14 that is a real game changer. So here we see the third angel; the first being at Verse 8:13 (vv. 14:6-7), the second at Verse 9:1 (v. 14:8), and now the third at Rev. 9:13 (vv. 14:9-13). This time however we see that the mark of the beast is in play that must have began in Chapter 9; after the judgment upon Babylon in Chapter 8. So we have the following scenario up to this point:
a) seals 1-4 Babylon falls b) seal 5 saints call for Babylon's destruction c) seal 6 saints are taken d) seal 7 the trumpets are ready e) trumpets 1-4 Babylon's judgment f) trumpet 5 wickedness ravages the earth and the mark of the beast appears to begin here g) trumpet 6 the mark of the beast is in play
However in Chapter 14, following the mark of the beast verses (vv. 14:9-11), are the linking verses Rev. 14:12-13. Verse 14:12 links to Chapter 13 at Rev. 13:10, and Verse 14:13 links to Chapter 19 at Rev. 19:9. Please notice that both of these linking verses (vv. 14:12-13) appear to be in concert with the 6th trumpet.
That is, while the mark of the beast is being formed in Chapter 13, the saints are waiting (v. 13:10). Secondly, while the marriage has taken place in Chapter 19, the saints are waiting (v. 19:9).
In other words, Verses 14:12-13 shows the saints waiting not only during the development of the mark of the beast in Chapter 13 and by extension the 5th trumpet; but they have been waiting since the marriage in Chapter 7 as shown in the link to Chapter 19 (Rev. 14:13 to Rev. 19:9). This means that Verses 14:12-13 are at the very opening of the 6th trumpet and are in fact references to the Great River Euphrates in Rev. 9:14 that is the 144,000; that are waiting to be used as an army.
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Post by venge on Feb 20, 2021 18:01:14 GMT -6
Bora
You lost me!
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Post by boraddict on Feb 20, 2021 20:09:21 GMT -6
venge , sorry about that. I was just pointing out that as the analysis expands into the 2nd half of the book it all seems to fit. However, I stopped at the war era in Chapter 9 because that is an entirely different animal that involves the build up to the winepress in Chapter 14 and then the bowls in Chapter 16; a real monster to unravel. However, it all seems to begin at the 2nd woe. I think the 1st woe (Rev. 9:1-12) is pretty straight forward when we think of the mark of the beast (Ch. 13) beginning there. Below is the index that seems to work. Notice that Chapter 14 is like a chronological index that has been marked in red.
| the seals, Chapters 6-8
| the trumpets, Chapters 8-11 | Chapter 14 | Chapters 17-19 | Chapters 12-13 | the bowls, Chapters 15-16 | Chapters 4-5 |
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| 1) the great sign |
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| Rev. 12:1-2 |
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| 2) the 4 horsemen / Babylon is eaten and burned but yet living | Rev. 6:1-8, seals 1-4 |
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| Rev. 17 | Rev. 12:3-4 |
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| 3) Babylon is fallen and the habitation of devils |
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| Rev. 18:1-3 |
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| 4) saints call for God's judgment | Rev. 6:9-11, seal 5 |
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| 5) example of the wrath of God to ask the question "who can stand" | Rev. 6:12-17, seal 6
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| 6) the answer to the question of "who can stand"; the saints stand with Christ having been called out of Babylon / saints in exodus | Rev. 7 |
| Rev. 14:1 | Rev. 18:4 | Rev. 12:5-6 |
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| 7) the new song |
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| Rev. 14:2-5 |
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| 7) prep for the wrath of God / angel announces God's judgment is come | Rev. 8:1, seal 7 | Rev. 8:2-6 | Rev. 14:6-7 |
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| 8) the wrath of God upon Babylon / Babylon is fallen (destroyed) |
| Rev. 8:7-12, trumpets 1-4 | Rev. 14:8 | Rev. 18:5-24 | Rev. 12:7-13 |
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| Rev. 12:14 |
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| Rev. 12:15-17 |
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| 11) The angel flies through heaven announcing that three woes remain |
| Rev. 8:13 |
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| 12) warning, do not take the mark of the beast / mark of the beast prep |
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| Rev. 14:9-11 |
| Rev. 13:1-9 |
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| 13) Patience of the saints |
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| Rev. 13:10 |
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| 14) the marriage |
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| Rev. 19:1-8 |
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| 15) the 1st woe / the mark of the beast |
| Rev. 9:1-12, trumpet 5 |
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| 17) the 2nd woe begins / warfare, the army of God (the 144,000) are called out to the harvest |
| Rev. 9:13-21, trumpet 6 | Rev. 14:14-16 | Rev. 19:10-21 |
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| 19) the two witnesses |
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| 20) the saints are called up / John is called up |
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| Rev. 4:1-5 | 21) the earthquake in Jerusalem / the 2nd woe ends |
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| 22) the 3rd woe begins |
| Rev. 11:15-18, trumpet 7 |
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| Rev. 15:2 | Rev. 4:6 | 25) the song of Moses and the Lamb |
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| Rev. 15:7-8 | Rev. 5:8 | 29) the new song |
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| Rev. 5:9 | 30) the 3rd woe / the grape vat / total population destruction |
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| 31) the saints with God |
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