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Post by disciple4life on Aug 4, 2020 20:39:15 GMT -6
kodster , There are many threads to peruse here on many topics. I recommend using the search option near the top by keyword, and dig into some of the perspectives. The following shape is applicable with respect to viewpoints here: Thanks yardstick for the cool chart. Not sure what it means but I'm guessing I'm at the 0.1% LOL. Definitely not your mainstream cookie-cutter Otter. Loves to play with others and is motivated by fun, but tends to challenge established thinking, and not accept things the pastor and media sources say. 😂🥳
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Post by Natalie on Aug 17, 2020 16:44:00 GMT -6
Gary have you seen this from Dan Matson? The 6,000 year span, 10 years after the Revelation 12:1-2 Sign. The only times found that replicated the Sign were 5,990 years apart. 3974 BC - Jupiter in the womb with Saturn, Mercury, and Venus in the 9 principle stars of Leo. 2017 AD - Jupiter in the womb with Mars, Mercury, and Venus in the 9 principle stars of Leo.
(I was having trouble loading the image...so let me know if it's not there.)
Assuming Creation was 4004. Adam fell at age 30; Jesus began His ministry at age 30.
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Post by disciple4life on Aug 17, 2020 19:38:25 GMT -6
Gary have you seen this from Dan Matson? The 6,000 year span, 10 years after the Revelation 12:1-2 Sign. The only times found that replicated the Sign were 5,990 years apart. 3974 BC - Jupiter in the womb with Saturn, Mercury, and Venus in the 9 principle stars of Leo. 2017 AD - Jupiter in the womb with Mars, Mercury, and Venus in the 9 principle stars of Leo.
(I was having trouble loading the image...so let me know if it's not there.)
Assuming Creation was 4004. Adam fell at age 30; Jesus began His ministry at age 30.
Hello @natalie, Thanks for posting. It's really fascinating. I really was intrigued by the connection that he makes of 10 days for 10 years. ;-) The first day, of course, being Rosh Hoshanah, [Feast of Trumpets] and since it's the only Jewish feast that happens on a New Moon, the sky is sometimes cloudy or overcast and the sliver of the new moon is not visable, so it's a two day feast. **This is also why it's the Feast that No One Knows the Day or Hour. Day 1 is 1st of Tishri, and Day 10 is the 10th of Tishri, which is Day of Atonement. So he has a correlation of days to years, like Daniel's weeks of years. Cool. 10 days = 10 years. Rosh Hoshanah is believed by Jews everywhere to be the day when the great resurrection happens. [And it will]. There are many many themes of this feast, and over the centuries, God has ordained that though their eyes are blinded for a time, Jews everywhere understand that on Rosh Hoshanah, the door of heaven is Opened. Revelation 4. Great Shout, The door of Heaven is opened, and voice says "Come up here." Then, in another amazing coincidence- Jews over millennia, everywhere believe that on Day of Atonement, the door of heaven is shut, and God pronounces the judgement for the new year. This is why these ten days are days of Awe, or days of repentance and Jews search their hearts and repent for the wrongs they have done. To this day, this custom is so prevalent, that even in the secular world of Wall Street and investing, the phrase is "Sell [your stocks] on Rosh Hoshanah, and buy back on Yom Kippur. I't's interesting the Dan Matson also puts the Day of Atonement at the end of the 10 years, - end of the tribulation, because it is often connected with the judgement at the Second Coming, when Christ returns to earth with his bride, after being in the wedding chamber for wait for it. ... 7 days. Hmmm. what a coincidence. Heheh What i don't get at all, is how or where he comes up with the notion that Adam was 30 at the Fall? Please don't feel that i'm challenging you, Natalie. I find him hard to follow because he often puts tons of numbers in his charts, and doesn't tell where he gets them or how they are connected. Nothing in scripture anywhere even remotely gives us a hint of how long they were in the Garden before the fall, but we know 2 things. - God made Adam and Eve as fully grown adults, not babies, and there was not effect of sin, or genetic defects or aging. - We also know that Cain, Abel, Seth and all their children were born after the fall, so this makes the time frame much more likely that it was a shorter time, rather than a longer time. It's also very very interesting that the red heifers turn 2 on Sept 06, 2020, and then they can be sacrificed for the cleansing ceremony of the ashes of the red heifer. This is the last and only thing that remains in order for the 3rd temple. Another in a long string of coincidences. In the coming weeks, we all should be watching as Oman is expected to Join the covenant with many, along with Saudi Arabia. Maranatha, Disciple4life
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Post by Gary on Aug 17, 2020 19:50:37 GMT -6
Yes, Dan shared this with me. We've coordinated this to go out with a big article from bro. Jeff tomorrow morning. The subject will be the days of awe... dun dun DUNNN.
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Post by klb on Aug 17, 2020 20:26:58 GMT -6
Can't wait to read that!
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Post by yardstick on Aug 17, 2020 20:45:50 GMT -6
Gary have you seen this from Dan Matson? The 6,000 year span, 10 years after the Revelation 12:1-2 Sign. The only times found that replicated the Sign were 5,990 years apart. 3974 BC - Jupiter in the womb with Saturn, Mercury, and Venus in the 9 principle stars of Leo. 2017 AD - Jupiter in the womb with Mars, Mercury, and Venus in the 9 principle stars of Leo.
(I was having trouble loading the image...so let me know if it's not there.)
Assuming Creation was 4004. Adam fell at age 30; Jesus began His ministry at age 30.
Hello @natalie, Thanks for posting. It's really fascinating. I really was intrigued by the connection that he makes of 10 days for 10 years. ;-) The first day, of course, being Rosh Hoshanah, [Feast of Trumpets] and since it's the only Jewish feast that happens on a New Moon, the sky is sometimes cloudy or overcast and the sliver of the new moon is not visable, so it's a two day feast. **This is also why it's the Feast that No One Knows the Day or Hour. Day 1 is 1st of Tishri, and Day 10 is the 10th of Tishri, which is Day of Atonement. So he has a correlation of days to years, like Daniel's weeks of years. Cool. 10 days = 10 years. Rosh Hoshanah is believed by Jews everywhere to be the day when the great resurrection happens. [And it will]. There are many many themes of this feast, and over the centuries, God has ordained that though their eyes are blinded for a time, Jews everywhere understand that on Rosh Hoshanah, the door of heaven is Opened. Revelation 4. Great Shout, The door of Heaven is opened, and voice says "Come up here." Then, in another amazing coincidence- Jews over millennia, everywhere believe that on Day of Atonement, the door of heaven is shut, and God pronounces the judgement for the new year. This is why these ten days are days of Awe, or days of repentance and Jews search their hearts and repent for the wrongs they have done. To this day, this custom is so prevalent, that even in the secular world of Wall Street and investing, the phrase is "Sell [your stocks] on Rosh Hoshanah, and buy back on Yom Kippur. I't's interesting the Dan Matson also puts the Day of Atonement at the end of the 10 years, - end of the tribulation, because it is often connected with the judgement at the Second Coming, when Christ returns to earth with his bride, after being in the wedding chamber for wait for it. ... 7 days. Hmmm. what a coincidence. Heheh What i don't get at all, is how or where he comes up with the notion that Adam was 30 at the Fall? Please don't feel that i'm challenging you, Natalie. I find him hard to follow because he often puts tons of numbers in his charts, and doesn't tell where he gets them or how they are connected. Nothing in scripture anywhere even remotely gives us a hint of how long they were in the Garden before the fall, but we know 2 things. - God made Adam and Eve as fully grown adults, not babies, and there was not effect of sin, or genetic defects or aging. - We also know that Cain, Abel, Seth and all their children were born after the fall, so this makes the time frame much more likely that it was a shorter time, rather than a longer time. It's also very very interesting that the red heifers turn 2 on Sept 06, 2020, and then they can be sacrificed for the cleansing ceremony of the ashes of the red heifer. This is the last and only thing that remains in order for the 3rd temple. Another in a long string of coincidences. In the coming weeks, we all should be watching as Oman is expected to Join the covenant with many, along with Saudi Arabia. Maranatha, Disciple4life Assuming the sign appeared at the time Adam and Eve were ejected from the Garden (Gen 3:24), and given the 6000 year estimated window of time from creation and the 7000 hypothesis... I believe it math's out to Adam being about 30 years old at the time of the fall...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 21:01:13 GMT -6
The woman we recently discussed, Brenda Weltner (?) feels that we will have our glorified bodies during the 10 days of awe - and then ascend.
I am not sure where she found that.
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Post by firefrorefiddle on Aug 18, 2020 2:27:18 GMT -6
Hello @natalie, Thanks for posting. It's really fascinating. I really was intrigued by the connection that he makes of 10 days for 10 years. ;-) The first day, of course, being Rosh Hoshanah, [Feast of Trumpets] and since it's the only Jewish feast that happens on a New Moon, the sky is sometimes cloudy or overcast and the sliver of the new moon is not visable, so it's a two day feast. **This is also why it's the Feast that No One Knows the Day or Hour. Day 1 is 1st of Tishri, and Day 10 is the 10th of Tishri, which is Day of Atonement. So he has a correlation of days to years, like Daniel's weeks of years. Cool. 10 days = 10 years. Rosh Hoshanah is believed by Jews everywhere to be the day when the great resurrection happens. [And it will]. There are many many themes of this feast, and over the centuries, God has ordained that though their eyes are blinded for a time, Jews everywhere understand that on Rosh Hoshanah, the door of heaven is Opened. Revelation 4. Great Shout, The door of Heaven is opened, and voice says "Come up here." Then, in another amazing coincidence- Jews over millennia, everywhere believe that on Day of Atonement, the door of heaven is shut, and God pronounces the judgement for the new year. This is why these ten days are days of Awe, or days of repentance and Jews search their hearts and repent for the wrongs they have done. To this day, this custom is so prevalent, that even in the secular world of Wall Street and investing, the phrase is "Sell [your stocks] on Rosh Hoshanah, and buy back on Yom Kippur. I't's interesting the Dan Matson also puts the Day of Atonement at the end of the 10 years, - end of the tribulation, because it is often connected with the judgement at the Second Coming, when Christ returns to earth with his bride, after being in the wedding chamber for wait for it. ... 7 days. Hmmm. what a coincidence. Heheh What i don't get at all, is how or where he comes up with the notion that Adam was 30 at the Fall? Please don't feel that i'm challenging you, Natalie. I find him hard to follow because he often puts tons of numbers in his charts, and doesn't tell where he gets them or how they are connected. Nothing in scripture anywhere even remotely gives us a hint of how long they were in the Garden before the fall, but we know 2 things. - God made Adam and Eve as fully grown adults, not babies, and there was not effect of sin, or genetic defects or aging. - We also know that Cain, Abel, Seth and all their children were born after the fall, so this makes the time frame much more likely that it was a shorter time, rather than a longer time. It's also very very interesting that the red heifers turn 2 on Sept 06, 2020, and then they can be sacrificed for the cleansing ceremony of the ashes of the red heifer. This is the last and only thing that remains in order for the 3rd temple. Another in a long string of coincidences. In the coming weeks, we all should be watching as Oman is expected to Join the covenant with many, along with Saudi Arabia. Maranatha, Disciple4life Assuming the sign appeared at the time Adam and Eve were ejected from the Garden (Gen 3:24), and given the 6000 year estimated window of time from creation and the 7000 hypothesis... I believe it math's out to Adam being about 30 years old at the time of the fall... That, and also 3974 BC is 30 years after Bishop Ussher's date for the creation.
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Post by uscgvet on Aug 18, 2020 5:43:05 GMT -6
What i don't get at all, is how or where he comes up with the notion that Adam was 30 at the Fall? Please don't feel that i'm challenging you, Natalie. Maranatha, Disciple4life Well, I can't say for Dan, but I saw a pretty good theory in this video on Adam being about 30 or 33 or so years old.
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Post by mike on Aug 18, 2020 6:14:00 GMT -6
Just a thought...Adam was created as an adult with the appearance of a 20, 25, 30 year old. We just dont know how much time was between Day 7 and the fall
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Post by uscgvet on Aug 18, 2020 6:21:47 GMT -6
True, but Adam lived to be 930, so 30 years isn't much to his timeline anyway.
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Post by Natalie on Aug 18, 2020 7:41:30 GMT -6
uscgvet , in Dan's facebook comments he said that he had watched that video.
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Post by Gary on Aug 18, 2020 12:25:23 GMT -6
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Post by Natalie on Aug 18, 2020 14:41:38 GMT -6
I never realized how many references there were to three days.
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Post by mike on Aug 18, 2020 17:14:18 GMT -6
Very good analysis! Hoping the timeline is accurate! One thing I would consider taking a different look at in Jeff 's article Or consider a different view on the timing of the rapture.
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