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Post by Natalie on Oct 22, 2019 17:49:00 GMT -6
Finally got to watch that! Good stuff. There were things I had considered and some I had not. He just pulled it all together. He also makes some interesting connections and how it could all come together. I have some things to think on and sort out, but it made sense.  |
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Post by Natalie on Oct 22, 2019 20:23:40 GMT -6
ok, so of course I've been thinking over this and rereading Rev ch 17. One thing I didn't really pay attention to before is that it seems there are two females mentioned. One is the great prostitute. This chapter speaks of her judgment. She sits on many waters (17:15 explains this is a multitude). Then John is carried to the wilderness and sees a woman on a beast. This is Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and abominations - a city according to verse 18. So, my conclusion is that the prostitute came from this woman, but both of them will be destroyed. 17:16-17 and then chapter 18.
ETA: After rereading it a couple of times, I think maybe the woman is the prostitute. I was just confused why he would sometimes use "prostitute" and sometimes "woman" and one is sitting on waters and one on the beast if they are the same.
I was having a bit of trouble with trying to figure out verse 11 "As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven, and it goes to destruction." But I think I got it... the 7th kingdom is that revived kingdom - the one that was, then was not, then comes again. The eighth is Antichrist's rule of that kingdom. He is the king in verse 10 that is not yet come but remains only a little while. At least that's how I got it to make sense for me. |
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Post by Natalie on Oct 23, 2019 10:44:52 GMT -6
Looking back at Daniel 7:19-22 seems to explain the ten horns and then an 11th, Antichrist, who then make war - also explained in Rev 17:12-14.
So this seems to agree that the heads are kingdoms and the horns are kings.
I was also thinking about what the pastor was talking about at the end about uniting the religions because everyone is a child of God. The Pope has a video basically saying the same thing. He just needs to get rid of the Cross.
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Post by bondservant on Oct 24, 2019 9:04:58 GMT -6
ok, so of course I've been thinking over this and rereading Rev ch 17. One thing I didn't really pay attention to before is that it seems there are two females mentioned. One is the great prostitute. This chapter speaks of her judgment. She sits on many waters (17:15 explains this is a multitude). Then John is carried to the wilderness and sees a woman on a beast. This is Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and abominations - a city according to verse 18. So, my conclusion is that the prostitute came from this woman, but both of them will be destroyed. 17:16-17 and then chapter 18.
ETA: After rereading it a couple of times, I think maybe the woman is the prostitute. I was just confused why he would sometimes use "prostitute" and sometimes "woman" and one is sitting on waters and one on the beast if they are the same.
I was having a bit of trouble with trying to figure out verse 11 "As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven, and it goes to destruction." But I think I got it... the 7th kingdom is that revived kingdom - the one that was, then was not, then comes again. The eighth is Antichrist's rule of that kingdom. He is the king in verse 10 that is not yet come but remains only a little while. At least that's how I got it to make sense for me. He uses the word woman because we are in Texas and we feel uncomfortable using words like "prostitute" & "whore" in the presence of women.  I am glad you enjoyed it. Part 9 (The Sign of the Seven Angels) was very interesting to me and shed new light on some things. I will post the link as soon as it is published. |
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Post by Natalie on Oct 24, 2019 9:36:03 GMT -6
Yes, I understood when your preacher did that, but the book of Rev itself uses both in that chapter. I should have specified who I meant by "he". I look forward to the next one. |
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Post by bondservant on Oct 25, 2019 17:51:03 GMT -6
I created a thread for OPISTHOGRAPH: PART 7, 6SIX6 because I feel it is worthy of a discussion. I am working on something to present to those that do not want to spend the time watching the video concerning the Vav's board.unsealed.org/thread/2072/6six6-mystery-vav |
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Post by Natalie on Oct 28, 2019 11:28:51 GMT -6
I am about half way through. I hope to finish it tonight. I will post on the other thread with any thoughts. So far I don't really disagree with his reasoning and conclusions.
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Post by bondservant on Oct 28, 2019 14:27:08 GMT -6
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Post by Natalie on Oct 28, 2019 18:11:29 GMT -6
That was really interesting. I think I remember seeing that symbol where the Greek matches the Arabic, I just don't know where.
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Post by bondservant on Oct 29, 2019 9:54:06 GMT -6
That was really interesting. I think I remember seeing that symbol where the Greek matches the Arabic, I just don't know where. He has touched on it before. I noticed that the bismillah view is gaining traction on Twitter and Facebook among certain groups. The thing that is blowing me away is the Vav's in the Old Testament. I am working on putting them in a visual format for the board in the other thread. |
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Post by Natalie on Oct 29, 2019 10:03:32 GMT -6
Yes, I am still contemplating it all. It's amazing.
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Post by bondservant on Oct 29, 2019 11:02:30 GMT -6
Who are the 144,000?
Are the wicked totally annihilated?
How are the people that received the mark of the beast tortured in such a manner in the presence of angels and the lamb?
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Post by Natalie on Oct 29, 2019 18:48:36 GMT -6
What I liked was the way he gave different opinions of what things could be, like the redeeming of the 144k and the harvests. The redeeming of the 144k was always a bit confusing to me. However, now I have some things to consider that I hadn't thought of before.
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Post by bondservant on Nov 1, 2019 7:57:42 GMT -6
What is sign of the seven angels?
Is the sign of seven angels related to the woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars?
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Post by Natalie on Nov 1, 2019 9:57:10 GMT -6
This may be my favorite study so far. I wasn't taking notes this morning, so I need to go back through parts to catch the references in the OT. Last year, I believe God gave me the word "Jericho". I am still trying to figure out why, but lately I have seen a couple of different messages tying things to Jericho. I can see the reflection of it in Rev 15-16. Really cool. I do believe though that it will be an actual sign, just like the woman and the dragon signs. (But the sign then leads to an actual fulfillment of the 7 angels coming with their trumpets and bowls) Here's something to think on...this alignment occurs a little over 6 1/2 years from the sign of the woman (9/23/17)
This area of the sky is called the Celestial Sea. The sun is there lighting the sea on fire. Pleiades "The Congregation" (the martyrs) standing there on one side and the moon (The church?) on the other, and seven planets all in line.
I don't know if I'm right, but I've never known all the planets to be in a line like that. And at the Celestial Sea...with the sun...
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