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Post by boraddict on Sept 6, 2020 11:46:11 GMT -6
rondonmonson, thank you for your posting and I will read through it again to catch more of the details that you have written. I loved the point that you made about the 1st 3.5 years being a time of fake peace. You said: It seems that many are in agreement with you as well as myself that the beast makes his move during the second half of the 7 years. Thank you for helping me understand this better as well as venge for his confirming post from a few days ago. This means that we know the 2nd 3.5 years that are hell on earth brutal. So, the questions in my mind turn to the 1st 3.5 years. Although this is a time of fake peace, so much more is going on. For instance, what is the beginning of this period. As I said in my previous post there are a few things that could mark the beginning such as the great sign or Covid19. However, your point seems to be that the peace treaty is the marker. Does this provide the path for the temple? Is the temple built during this period of time? Or, is the temple the marker?
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Post by rondonmonson on Sept 8, 2020 8:57:29 GMT -6
rondonmonson , thank you for your posting and I will read through it again to catch more of the details that you have written. I loved the point that you made about the 1st 3.5 years being a time of fake peace. You said: It seems that many are in agreement with you as well as myself that the beast makes his move during the second half of the 7 years. Thank you for helping me understand this better as well as venge for his confirming post from a few days ago. This means that we know the 2nd 3.5 years that are hell on earth brutal. So, the questions in my mind turn to the 1st 3.5 years. Although this is a time of fake peace, so much more is going on. For instance, what is the beginning of this period. As I said in my previous post there are a few things that could mark the beginning such as the great sign or Covid19. However, your point seems to be that the peace treaty is the marker. Does this provide the path for the temple? Is the temple built during this period of time? Or, is the temple the marker? The temple will be there, one way or another, the way is never told unto us nor the timing, only that its there. I am about to lay something HEAVY on you about the Covenant or Agreement with many, its not just with Israel, its an agreement with many Nations that make up the Mediterranean Sea Region, and the Anti-Christ. But the framework is already in place, that is why the Anti-Christ CONFIRMS the agreement (Confirm in Hebrew = GABAR, which means in essence he strong arms his ways into the agreement) to GABAR in Hebrew means to be strong, insolence, its basically one man who takes issues and says, its MY WAY or the HIGHWAY. To understand how this is going to work and the timing, just look at how long the China and USA trade deals took to negotiate, and the USA, Mexico, Canada trade deals, they both basically took three years time, these kind of agreements do not just happen overnight. Satan knowing this (hes the god of this world) already has his deals IN PLACE and ready to go, all hes waiting on is the Rapture, then he puts forth his Man of Sin to force an AGREEMENT that is much more favorable for him then the others, and the MANY can't resist it because they or on the "GOVERNMENT DOLE" so to speak, its like the carrot and the stick approach, they are enticed with monies, we know this because the AGREEMENTS are already in place, they are 7 year deals. but the Anti-Christ last 7 year deal will not kick in until he comes to power, of course, but there will be no 2-3 year negotiating wait, Satan has it already in place for his Man of Sin/Little Horn. The Covenant with MANY is called the European Neighborhood Policy, it is an Agreement between the European Union and MANY Nations including Israel in the Mediterranean Sea Region, in order to be a Beast a kingdom must Conquer the whole region, like Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome did, not just Israel. That is where THE MANY in Daniel 8:25, Dan. 9:27 and Daniel 11:40-43 come in. But more on that later, first, the AGREEMENTS via the E.U. and the MANY for 7 years can be seen HERE: European Neighbourhood Policy
The European Neighbourhood Policy (ENP) is a foreign relations instrument of the European Union (EU) which seeks to tie those countries to the east and south of the European territory of the EU to the Union. These countries, primarily developing countries, include some who seek to one day become either a member state of the European Union, or more closely integrated with the European Union. The countries covered include Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Palestine, Syria, Tunisia in the South. The Carrot and the Stick or Government Dole Approach BELOW:
The EU offers financial assistance to countries within the European Neighbourhood, so long as they meet the strict conditions of government reform, economic reform and other issues surrounding positive transformation. This process is normally underpinned by an Action Plan, as agreed by both Brussels and the target country. The EU typically concludes Association Agreements in exchange for commitments to political, economic, trade, or human rights reform in a country. In exchange, the country may be offered tariff-free access to some or all EU markets (industrial goods, agricultural products, etc.), and financial or technical assistance. On 25 May 2011, the European Commission launched what it described as a new and ambitious European Neighbourhood Policy, backed by more than €1.2 billion in new funding, bringing the total to almost €7 billion. In the South the first comprehensive policy for the region was the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership (or Barcelona Process) a wide framework of political, economic and social relations between member states of the EU and countries of the Southern Mediterranean. Funding the policy: from ENPI to ENI
Giving incentives and rewarding best performers, as well as offering funds in a faster and more flexible manner, are the two main principles underlying the European Neighbourhood Instrument (ENI) that came into force in 2014. It has a budget of €15.4 billion and provides the bulk of funding through a number of programmes. The ENI, effective from 2014 to 2020, replaces the European Neighbourhood and Partnership Instrument – known as the ENPI. This cooperation instrument continues to be managed by DG Development and Cooperation - Europe Aid, which turns decisions taken on a political level into actions on the ground. ENPI funding approved for the period 2007-2013 was €11.2 billion. The European Neighborhood Policy via WIKIPEDIA Above: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Notice, the agreements above run from 2007-2013 (7 years) and from 2014-2020 (7 years). Notice also who the MANY Nations are, Israel, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Palestine, Jordan, Morocco and Algeria. This matches up perfectly with who the Anti-Christ conquers in Dan. 11:40-43. Now lets delve into THE MANY !! The Covenant/AGREEMENTS with Many Dan. 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes(Jesus); but he shall be broken without hand (Jesus speaks VICTORY). Dan. 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. The Anti-Christ CONQUERS the Many Dan. 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north(Anti-Christ) shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over. 41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon. ( Edom, Moab and Ammon just so happens to be Central and Southern Jordan, where Petra and Bozrah is located at, so the Anti-Christ is NOT ALLOWED to conquer this region, this is where the Jews flee unto in Rev. 12, the Woman flees from the Dragon for 1260 days)42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps. So, the Anti-Christ conquers MANY nations including Israel (glorious land above), Egypt, Libya and Ethiopia or all of North Africa. Now, go look at a map of all the Beasts, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome, they all Conquered the WHOLE REGION and that is why they were called Beasts of power. This last Beast is no different, conquering just Israel does not make one a Beast power, he has to conquer Israel AND the whole Mediterranean Sea Region to be a Beast Power. So these FAKE PEACE Agreements will kick in with the Anti-Christs own spin on them when he come to power, thus they are for ONE WEEK (7 Years) but the FRAMEWORK is already in place via the European Neighborhood Policy which run in 7 year cycles as we speak. We are only waiting on the Rapture then everything will kick in. If one looks on a map at the E.U. and these nations spoken of in Dan. 11:40-43 that he Conquers, it looks EXACTLY like the Roman Empire on a Map, none of the other Beasts ruled over every square inch of the Mediterranean Sea Coastline except Rome, the other Beast Kingdoms were more Eastern Centric, Greece did not even reach Italy, and only about half of North Africa, their empire reached India, but Romes was a far more Mediterranean Centric Empire, as will be the Anti-Christs kingdom. I think this is why he is said to come out of the Fourth Beasts Head (its his PAPA, he looks just like Papa on a map). Gotta go to my radiation doc, only 9 more trips, be finished by next Fri. I will have more time to chat then. God Bless.
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Post by inaweofhim on Sept 8, 2020 10:58:27 GMT -6
Rondonmonson said: The temple will be there, one way or another, the way is never told unto us nor the timing, only that its there. I am about to lay something HEAVY on you about the Covenant or Agreement with many, its not just with Israel, its an agreement with many Nations that make up the Mediterranean Sea Region, and the Anti-Christ. But the framework is already in place,....
Indeed that is a LOT of very interesting information and analysis. The first thing that came to mind is Dan 12:4 ...and knowledge will increase.
Thank you for giving another consideration of the covenant with many.
Additionally, I am praying for your health! Both you and Nana are walking that road. We, your brothers and sisters, are beside you in prayer and strength.
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Post by rondonmonson on Sept 8, 2020 18:27:50 GMT -6
Rondonmonson said: The temple will be there, one way or another, the way is never told unto us nor the timing, only that its there. I am about to lay something HEAVY on you about the Covenant or Agreement with many, its not just with Israel, its an agreement with many Nations that make up the Mediterranean Sea Region, and the Anti-Christ. But the framework is already in place,.... Indeed that is a LOT of very interesting information and analysis. The first thing that came to mind is Dan 12:4 ...and knowledge will increase. Thank you for giving another consideration of the covenant with many. Additionally, I am praying for your health! Both you and Nana are walking that road. We, your brothers and sisters, are beside you in prayer and strength. Thank you dear friend in Christ. My prostrate is gone, they are radiating the field around it for precautions sake, my last PSA test showed 0.0, so I think its all gone, but my job on earth will not be finished until God chooses that time anyway, praise God. But, we should not tempt God, we should always use the instruments he provided unto us. I really didn't want to do the Radiation with 0.0 PSA, but I decided it was better to do it, glad I did, there has been zero side effects that I can tell. God Bless
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Post by boraddict on Sept 9, 2020 21:59:26 GMT -6
rondonmonson, your last posting sounded so good and accordingly; if I have read it correctly, then the next seven years for The European Neighbourhood Policy (ENP) is 2020 to 2027. Is this correct? If so then the second half of that period of time begins in about 4 years (mid- 2024). It also means that we are near the beginning of the 7 years of trib. If the above is not correct then the beginning is 2027. I find that possibility hard to believe because of Little Egypt here in the US that gets the "X" marks the spot in 2024 (the second eclipse).
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Post by rondonmonson on Sept 10, 2020 8:05:37 GMT -6
rondonmonson , your last posting sounded so good and accordingly; if I have read it correctly, then the next seven years for The European Neighbourhood Policy (ENP) is 2020 to 2027. Is this correct? If so then the second half of that period of time begins in about 4 years (mid- 2024). It also means that we are near the beginning of the 7 years of trib. If the above is not correct then the beginning is 2027. I find that possibility hard to believe because of Little Egypt here in the US that gets the "X" marks the spot in 2024 (the second eclipse). I wouldn't try to peg the 7 years by its current timeline per se. REMEMBER, China and the USA had "TRADE PACTS" and Trump came and and stated unless a new deal is worked out I will be voiding these deals, he did the same thing with Mexico and Canada. So, as the Rapture happens, that is when this "man" comes on the scene and "CONFIRMS" the Agreement, the word Hebrew GABAR actually presents a picture of a man using strong arm type tactics, so IMHO, he says, OK, all you nations who are used to this money we pass out t you every year, all you nations who want t trade with Europe (E.U.) we need you to agree to THIS.....THIS.......and THIS, or you will no longer be a part of our trading block and you will no longer receive this free money (enticement) unless you meet our demands as a "partner". Israel as we speak plays Football (Soccer) in the Euro Division, I guess it would be or would have been (probably still is) dangerous for them to travel to the Asian Nation Groups with have Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia etc. etc. playing therein, so they play in the Euro Leagues. I don't think the blood moons are anything but a WARNING ahead of time......which is big, its like LOOK something is coming, but at best its just a warning, we still have to decipher the times via the bible. The Sun and the Moon that goes dark via the Joel 2:31 prophecy is not a warning per se, its a real event, it is an IMPACT via an asteroid and the smoke of all the burning grasses and trees will of course blot out the sun, I mean 1/3 of all the trees burning will be a ton of smoke, it will block out the sun by 1/3 the bible says, and the moon as we know just gives reflected light from the sun, but the smoke will blot that out by 1/3 also. So, the timing of his appearance will have nothing to do with the current timing of these agreements because he will DEMAND a reworked Agreement (GABAR) via his own goals and demands. Look up GABAR in Strongs. The best guess I have is that if April 13 (Fri. 13) 2029 is the Day of the Lord as I strongly suspect, then 3.5 years before this is the Rapture in the fall of 2025. So, his agreements would fall in that time period, but God works in His own ways, that Apophis will come back around again in 2036 and 2068, but 2029 will be its closet path. The signs all around us tells me that 2029 has to be the impact, but it could e 2036, or it could bee another unknown asteroid, but everything I am looking at tells me we are about to BIRTH THE BABY (70th year Tribulation period). But, don't look for a set time via the current deals, its just a FRAMEWORK, for this Anti-Christs deals. Did you look into the Wikipedia page on this European Neighborhood Policy ? NOTICE the innocent sounding name? LOL.......
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Post by boraddict on Sept 10, 2020 18:42:12 GMT -6
From Fred Rodgers, "Won't you be mine, won't you be mine, won't you be my neighbor."
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Post by boraddict on Sept 11, 2020 21:45:16 GMT -6
The other day I was thinking about Chapter 4 that is the rapture chapter and wondered: What precedes the rapture?
Naturally, the churches precede the rapture. So, we today have many churches some of which are: Calvary, Christian, Baptist, Presbyterian, etc. Thus, the churches of today are represented in Chapters 2-3 as the churches of the past.
Going one step further back is Chapter 1 wherein John writes the introduction with the resurrected Savior as the central figure. So, we have the resurrected Savior (Ch. 1), then the churches (Ch. 2-3), then the rapture (Ch. 4).
Please notice that each church has an angel to whom the Savior addresses his comments. So, it appears that the Savior is speaking to one specific individual in 7 of the latter day churches represented as the 7 addressees. Thus, the BofR has 7 angels in the latter days that participates in the latter day events.
However, since the book contains metaphorical representations then the 7 angels of Chapters 2-3 are not limited to seven and the 7 angels of the book are not limited to 7. Thus, each of us are personally addressed in Chapters 2-3 and we are the 7 angels of the book.
In conclusion, the book is about our participation in the latter day tribulation events.
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Post by boraddict on Sept 24, 2020 9:27:25 GMT -6
IMO the Book of Revelation is written to be read in a multitude of ways one of which is chronologically from beginning to end. A second read of the book might build upon a theme such as Babylon in Chapter 17 with supporting chapters both before and after in a chiasmus form. This same type of read exist for Chapter 12 as the central theme (the great sign) and the other chapters both before and after in chiasmus support. Perhaps the best read involves the division of the book into two halves with Chapters 6-11 providing the base story and 12-19 as parenthetical chapters in support.
No matter which type of read the reader prefers there are always base themes provided to the reader.
1) The message of the book pertains to a future period of time. a) This means that some segments of the book referencing past periods like Rev. 12:7-11 are pointing to future events and not specifically those past events. This type of referencing method is a "type and shadow" wherein "the type" that is the past event highlights a future event "the shadow"; that is similar to that past event. The most dramatic "type and shadow" (IMO) is Rev. 2-3 wherein the message is to the churches of the past as a type, and the message is to us in the present day as the shadow. b) That future period of time will be hell on earth for the vast majority of the earth's population.
2) Christ has been and will always be victorious. This theme dominates the book from the very beginning wherein he (Jesus) is with God and gives a message to his angel to give to John and the servants. The preparatory chapter to Rev. 1 is Rev. 5 wherein the details of Christ's victory over death are stated as well as Rev. 19 that highlights the great victory over the latter day beast. Christ's victory over his enemies are highlighted in each chapter of the book (IMO).
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Post by rondonmonson on Sept 24, 2020 21:19:22 GMT -6
IMO the Book of Revelation is written to be read in a multitude of ways one of which is chronologically from beginning to end. A second read of the book might build upon a theme such as Babylon in Chapter 17 with supporting chapters both before and after in a chiasmus form. This same type of read exist for Chapter 12 as the central theme (the great sign) and the other chapters both before and after in chiasmus support. Perhaps the best read involves the division of the book into two halves with Chapters 6-11 providing the base story and 12-19 as parenthetical chapters in support. No matter which type of read the reader prefers there are always base themes provided to the reader. 1) The message of the book pertains to a future period of time. a) This means that some segments of the book referencing past periods like Rev. 12:7-11 are pointing to future events and not specifically those past events. This type of referencing method is a "type and shadow" wherein "the type" that is the past event highlights a future event "the shadow"; that is similar to that past event. The most dramatic "type and shadow" (IMO) is Rev. 2-3 wherein the message is to the churches of the past as a type, and the message is to us in the present day as the shadow. b) That future period of time will be hell on earth for the vast majority of the earth's population.
2) Christ has been and will always be victorious. This theme dominates the book from the very beginning wherein he (Jesus) is with God and gives a message to his angel to give to John and the servants. The preparatory chapter to Rev. 1 is Rev. 5 wherein the details of Christ's victory over death are stated as well as Rev. 19 that highlights the great victory over the latter day beast. Christ's victory over his enemies are highlighted in each chapter of the book (IMO). Hello sister, I am finished with my radiation treatments so after 8 weeks I now have more time to do what I love, read and study the bible. The "TYPES & SHADOWS" and the different ways to STUDY, interested me because of the way I study, I don't usually go over one book, I tie them all together via a "SUBJECT" I am interested in, it makes it more exciting, and challenging. For instance, I got tired of telling everyone, hey, Daniel 11 is just way too convoluted to understand, so many kings and such a long timeline, lets just brush over that, or we just can't know what all that really means. So I got tired of telling people that, so I decided to do an Exegesis of chapter 11, and I figured out, ops I have to do ch. 12 also, and I should have did 10, 11 and 12, its all one visitation by Gabriel. By doing this, God rewarded me with things I would have never understood. I have an Exegesis, I don't know if we can link to my Blog site here, but I studied, Youtubed, etc. and matched Dan. 11 up to all of the Kings, the players in every verse I have accounted for, and that is how I came to know the False Prophet is going to be an End Time Jewish High Priest. Because I found out via study, who his SHADOW/Type is in history. In Daniel 11:21-33 we see Antiochus as the TYPE Anti-Christ, his very name Antiochus "Epiphanes" means god manifest, no kidding. So he's the TYPE Anti-Christ, he killed like 60 k Jewish people and placed a pig/sacrifice in the temple on God's altar, thereby he committed an Abomination, just like the Anti-Christ will do. But we never see the False Prophet which John talks about in the book of Revelation in Daniel, and I wondered to myself, why? I studied all the players, the daughters, wives, High Priests etc. etc. its an extensive, but thorough Exegesis. Then, I came across a High Priest who BRIBED Antiochus in order to be named the High Priest and he thereby had his Pious High Priest brother (Onias III) killed (sad), his name was Jason (real name Yeshua), Jesus name is Yeshua, Jacobs name in Hebrew is also Yeshua. The Greek name of Yeshua always starts with the J sound. Anyhow, this man took the name Jason, a Greek name, and he tried to Hellenize the Jewish people (make then worship the Greek gods, take on the Greeks culture etc. etc.) Which led to the Maccabean Revolt. You can't find Jason in the bible, but you can find him in the book of Maccabeans, and on Wikipedia/History books etc. Then it hit me, this Jewish High Priest TOGETHER with Antiochus was the same TYPE we see in Matthew 24:24 and Revelation 13 where the Anti-Christ and False Prophet are seen together. Thus Antiochus and Jason were THE TYPE Anti-Christ and False Prophet. From that moment in time, everything started clicking, that is the one piece of the puzzle not many have ever understood, the False Prophet will be a Jewish High Priest. Anyway, that is the way I study, I love getting NEW LEADS like a Detective. I even understood why Daniel (after I questioned why?) couldn't be given the False Prophet understanding, but John was given it. If Gabriel had told Daniel about the coming False Prophet, then every other High Priest from his time, 500 BC or so until Jesus came over 500 years later, might have found themselves in great peril, after all, King Herod tried to kill baby Jesus because of prophecy that pointed to him being born in Bethlehem. So, God did not give that understanding to the Jews on purpose, but by the time God gave it to John, 90ish AD, there was no Israel, they had been sacked in 70 AD. The 1290 in Dan. 12:11 is about the False Prophet, the Beast comes to power at the 1260, 30 days later. Its the False Prophet (Rev. 13)that puts the Image of the Beast in the Temple. God Bless, just thought I would let you know how I study, I find something I am interested in, and I follow it wherever it leads me, its much more interesting that way, its like solving a puzzle. Amen.
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Sept 24, 2020 21:56:48 GMT -6
Ron, I am bolding here because this seems to be a typo: how does 1290 FP comes to power, then at 1260 equals 30 days later? Did you mean to say the FP comes 30 days later/ Because this 1st sentence in bold you wrote is confusing to me.
Next question: I was following you and saying small amens all along in your explanation of how you study and what you found. Then, I stopped, hence, the next bolded sentence. 'FP of rev 13...' you were all about the time frame of Antiochus epiphanes, then you said this thing that many, quite a few, put to a time not yet have happened. The False prophet story... well, that's because the church is out of here, to many. But the FP in your sentence seems to have been established in the time of Antiochus.. did I read that correctly?
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Sept 24, 2020 22:08:22 GMT -6
It is interesting that you see it as you have spoken above. What makes Jesus a victor over His enemies and over death? Is He going to be firing guns, or swinging a sword? I am curious as to what victory is in this battle, according to your insight? What does Jesus do to be victorious over the beast in the last days?
I agree with you on your words you wrote, but what do they mean in the literal sense? What is happening as Jesus is being victorious?
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Post by venge on Sept 25, 2020 6:30:13 GMT -6
rondonmonson, You said, Please show me in Revelation 13 where the Anti-Christ as a man, and the False prophet as a man are seen together.
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Post by rondonmonson on Sept 25, 2020 11:54:23 GMT -6
Ron, I am bolding here because this seems to be a typo: how does 1290 FP comes to power, then at 1260 equals 30 days later? Did you mean to say the FP comes 30 days later/ Because this 1st sentence in bold you wrote is confusing to me. Next question: I was following you and saying small amens all along in your explanation of how you study and what you found. Then, I stopped, hence, the next bolded sentence. 'FP of rev 13...' you were all about the time frame of Antiochus epiphanes, then you said this thing that many, quite a few, put to a time not yet have happened. The False prophet story... well, that's because the church is out of here, to many. But the FP in your sentence seems to have been established in the time of Antiochus.. did I read that correctly? {I am going to also answer Venge here to save space} Hello sister BBG, I was speaking about TYPES & SHADOWS so I pointed out that Antiochus and Jason, imho, are the type Anti-Christ and False Prophet to come, seen in Revelation 13, one is the Beast that arises out of the Sea (Mediterranean Sea Region/Gentile King) the other is a different type of Beast who arises out of the land/earth (Israel). One rules (Beasts over) over Nations (Anti-Christ) and the other rules over Religion (he takes the place of the Harlot Religions that are destroyed in Rev. 17:16). Thus, the 2nd Beast places an Image of the 1st Beast in the temple of God and demands all to worship him. {That was more or less an answer to Venge's point below, but it ties in with your question also} As I was doing my comprehensive Daniel 11 & 12 Exegesis, the 1260, 1290 and 1335 hit me like a ton of bricks. I personally thought my first impression (Holy Spirits small whisper to me) was just me seeing something that probably wasn't there, but once I started running out all the leads (like a detective) I was astonished that everything that had to tie together, did tie together, and the 1260, 1290 and 1335, are numbers that point to specific events, all being a set number of days until the Second Coming "Ends all these Wonders" which Daniel was seeing. You see, how could the 1290 be so misunderstood I thought to myself while first pondering on it during my Exegesis, some people have it in the New Millennium, some people have it coming 30 days after the 1260 (Middle of the week, which never made sense to me tbh) and most people just admit, they can't figure it out, I was one of those, I hate saying something is this, this or that via just guessing. So, doing this Exegesis, I had no option, I had to at least try to solve the problem, thus I studied and prayed as we all do, and like a ton of bricks I saw it. Daniel in verse 8 asked the exact same question as the Angel asked the Man in Linen (Jesus imho) in verse 6, "How long until these Wonders End"? So the answer had to be as per the same symmetry, it had to be a set number of days until all these wonders end via ALL THREE NUMBERS !! Now I knew the 1290 could not be 30 days after the 1260, and it couldn't be in the New Millennium, it had to be 30 days before the 1260, and that meant 30 days before the Anti-Christ goes forth Conquering, because he only rules for 1260 days. The funny thing is sister, its right there in the scriptures, staring us in the face, but one thing keeps us from getting it, we assume the Anti-Christ stops the Sacrifice and places the Abomination of Desolation in the temple, so the 1290 has to be the Anti-Christ, thus we can't see that, that can not be the case, because he is only allowed 1260 days rule as the Beast. Now, when we step back, read the passages, and look at the facts we should be able to see, what before we couldn't see. (I don't really like posting a lot of scriptures, this time I have to post a few) Dan. 12:5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river. 6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? 7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. So, one of the two angels asks the Man in Linen (Jesus) How long until these wonders end? (Which Daniel was seeing) And of course the answer is this in the modern way of writing. It will be 1260 days from the time that the holy peoples (Jews/Israel) power is scattered (Conquered by the Anti-Christ) until all these wonders are over. (The Second Coming of Jesus of course ends the Anti-Christs rule on earth, after 1260 days). We all mostly understand the above passage, so what hit me was verse 8, why had I never seen this I asked myself, its the SAME QUESTION, so it has to be juxtaposed against the SAME ANSWER, how long will it be until the Second Coming ends all these wonders, thus the 1290 and 1335 had to be before the 1260. Dan. 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. You see how Daniel asks the exact same question that the angel asked ? Why should the answers symmetry be any different? It shouldn't be, but since we assumed the above was the Anti-Christs actions, we never questioned the timing, we just assumed it was close enough. But I now saw it for the first time, and had a dilemma, how could the Little Horn/Anti-Christ/Beast be seen in the temple at the 1290, which I now saw as 30 days before he is allowed to conquer Jerusalem, now nothing made any sense, was I right or seeing things? And what in the world could the 1335 be for that matter. THEN IT HIT ME AGAIN....Bricks were raining. The 2nd Beast (False Prophet) places the Image in the temple in Rev. 13 and demands that all men must worship the first beast or die. So, the AoD Jesus spoke of in Matt. 24:15-17, which stands where it ought not stand is a graven image of some type. It is placed there by the 2nd Beast who arises out of the land (Israel), and the Jewish peoples are forewarned by Jesus that when they see this, they must Flee Judea for the Mountains of Peta/Bozrah, and they should not look back. As I thought about it, it seemed to fit very well, Rev. 13 does say the False Prophet (2nd Beast) places the image in the temple. This alleviated another problem that I was always bothered by, why would the Jews only be warned to Flee Judea via a SIGN after they had been Conquered by the Anti-Christ, via him defiling the temple of God !! I never could understand why a sign, which is meant as a warning, was given after they were Conquered, it just never made no sense to me, BUT NOW (bricks falling) everything made perfect sense if the 1290 was 30 days before the 1260, and thus when the Jewish High Priest (False Prophet) places the Image in the temple and stops the Sacrifice, the Jews will know to Flee Judea, they have a SIGN that gives them 30 days, thus the warning, do not look back, go, it made sense now. I always had another problem however, how do the Jewish peoples know to Flee Judea I pondered? They mostly do not read the New Testament, and/or follow Jesus, how will they know they need to flee? I could never digest that tbh. Well, doing this Exegesis, I had to look at all things, thus I revisited Malachi 4:5-6, and Zechariah 13:8-9 AND Zechariah 14:1-2. The Malachi passage says that Elijah will be sent back BEFORE the DOTL to turn Israel back unto God. Zechariah 13:8-9 says 1/3 of the Jews will repent, be tried, go through the fire, and God will call them His and they will call God their God. The Jews accept Jesus in Zechariah 12:10, which is probably the same thing tbh. It also states the 2/3 will not repent and will perish. Then, in verses 14:1-2, which is the next two verses, it says, BEHOLD the Day of the Lord cometh. Then we see Israel conquered by the Anti-Christ. BUT....in verses 3-4, we see Jesus landing on the Mt of Olives (3.5 years later) and defeating Israel's enemies. So it all ties together, the Jews come back to their God/Messiah Jesus JUST BEFORE the Day of the Lord God's Wrath starts. This is how the 1/3 knows to Flee Judea. There could be no other answer, and the scriptures, every step of the way affirmed what I first thought was me just seeing things. So what was the 1335 "BLESSING" that comes 75 days before the 1260 and 45 days before the 1290 event? Well who did Malachi 4:5-6 say was going to come back BEFORE the DOTL ? Elijah (Two-witnesses, Probably Moses and Elijah) !! I think the Two-witnesses are the 1335 Blessing, I mean what better blessing than to find Jesus via Elijah and probably Moses preaching repentance? But the puzzle's kept on fitting. Would the time-line of the book of Revelation ALLOW for the Two-witnesses to show up before the coming DOTL since the Beast and Two-witnesses both have 1260 day "Offices" on this earth? This is when it was clenched in my mind for good, I got chills. The Two-witnesses have to show up BEFORE the Beast because they die BEFORE the Beast dies, at the 2nd Woe, whereas the Beast dies at the 7th Vial . It fit like a glove!! Thus, they were the 1335 Blessing, and they show up 1335 days before the Second Coming ends all these wonders, which is 75 days before the Beast shows up at the 1260, and they die before the Beast dies (75 days imho before). Their job is to get the Jews to repent and to pray down the plagues of God onto mankind. I truly believe the only reason God allows them to be killed or die, is so there is a 1260 day JUXTAPOSITION unto the Beasts timeline. This way we can get our bearings on the timeline, like I just did. Oh, yea, one more thing that only came unto me at the very end, because to be truthful I never understood why the angels/Man in Linen (Jesus) would be telling Daniel about an end time PROFANE MEAT Sacrifice being stopped (taken away). How could an AoD defile what was already defiled by those meat sacrifices which God sees as an Abomination? Do you see it now? THE SACRIFICE that is taken away, forbidden/STOPPED, is the 1/3 Jews who started worshipping Jesus in the temple maybe, or in Jerusalem for sure, either way, this False Prophet High Priest forbids Jesus Worship AND places a graven Image of the E.U Beast in the temple all at the same time, at the 1290. Its one event. He is so angered by the Jesus worship, he forbids it, and throws in with the E.U. President/King/Anti-Christ, who will Conquer Jerusalem 30 days later. You see, a Jewish High Priest will be in place before the Anti-Christ conquers. He sees what is about to happen, and he's a sellout, just like Jason was via Antiochus. God Bless
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Post by boraddict on Sept 25, 2020 20:47:32 GMT -6
rondonmonson, I loved the conclusions in your last posting. Where do you see the building of the temple as referenced in Rev. 11:1-2 and it's placement in relation to the 1335, 1290, and 1260 timeline?
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