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Post by anonymouse on Sept 13, 2017 17:22:44 GMT -6
What is the chance of being called up on the 9/23/2017? When and what is the next big event if the rapture does not take place on the 9/23/2017?
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Post by duydao on Sept 13, 2017 18:02:05 GMT -6
it's 50/50. It's either going to happen or the time for it won't come yet lol.  |
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Post by jay on Sept 13, 2017 18:31:15 GMT -6
I'd give it a 90% chance? Haha.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 18:37:23 GMT -6
Well, this is opinion, and opinion only! My opinion is < 1%......the next big event to look for is a covenant to divide the Land. Actually, the covenant to divide the Land is my focus....all else is secondary. If the proposed celestial signs occur in alignment with the covenant, they validate each other.....I am looking for a covenant, and hoping for a celestial confirmation, but the bar is very high currently, in my opinion..
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Post by uscgvet on Sept 13, 2017 18:44:00 GMT -6
I opened excel and typed in =Rand()
It resulted in 2.26%
So yea.
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Post by watchmanjim on Sept 13, 2017 19:00:22 GMT -6
I opened excel and typed in =Rand() It resulted in 2.26% So yea. Ohhhhh I didn't know that trick, I'll have to try it! |
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Post by anonymouse on Sept 13, 2017 19:20:41 GMT -6
Have you guys been doing anything special/different if the rapture will happen on the 23rd?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 19:58:18 GMT -6
Not me, because I don't believe the rapture will happen this year, or the next. On the other hand, my plan A is to retire in 7 years, however, if it's clear that the 70th week has started, then Plan B is to retire in 2 years, so I can devote all my energy to preparing my extended family to survive until the pre-wrath rapture, the 6th year roughly, of Daniel's 70th week...not just physical survival, but also emotional and spiritual preparation, and to prepare to share with others, from my physical and spiritual preparation.
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Post by watchmanjim on Sept 13, 2017 20:46:22 GMT -6
Sam's the one the rest of us will be looking to for leadership if we're wrong!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 20:51:37 GMT -6
ha ha Jim, you will be right there with me!
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Post by watchmanjim on Sept 13, 2017 20:55:51 GMT -6
I try to keep an open perspective in case I missed something (or even a lot of things!) important.  |
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Post by bruce on Sept 14, 2017 7:02:33 GMT -6
I am one of those people who think the rapture is more likely to happen on the 21st or 22nd, so I'd say the chance of it happening on September 23 is smaller because I think we'll already be gone.
If the question were what is the percent chance that we will have been raptured by September 24, then I would put that number pretty high, probably over 50%. Like many of you, I have been studying this stuff for years, and nothing comes together like 2017, and I continue to think Feast of Trumpets is the most likely time for the rapture to occur. If it doesn't happen this Feast of Trumpets, then we are left with two options: 1. The rapture will happen later this fall (or beyond), but not on Feast of Trumpets or 2. The rapture will happen on Feast of Trumpets 2018 or later. Since Feast of Trumpets seems more likely than not Feast of Trumpets, and 2017 seems more likely than other years (based on all the reasons we are all familiar with), that puts the odds of a rapture between, say, September 20 and September 23 as very high.
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Post by kjs on Sept 14, 2017 8:06:23 GMT -6
Please note I am not saying this to argue or debate – I simply want to understand the logic some of you have when you claim there is a Mid-Trib, Pre_wrath, Post_trib rapture.
Here is my reasoning for the Pre-Trib version.
Israel rejected Jesus Christ as being the Messiah – when I speak of Israel, of course I am speaking of the Leaders / people in Power. My understanding was the Jesus was ready and willing to implement the Kingdom of God – right then and there. However, He was rejected. We learn through Paul; that a partial harden of hearts of the Israel people was – so the gentile people (ie. All NON-Israel) would receive the benefits (become Children of God). These Benefits (Status?) was primarily to provoke the Israel people to be jealous and return to God.
This plan B (or Age of Grace) which we are operating in right now – is for the 2nd class citizens (the gentiles) – the NON-Israel folk to be graphed into the family – WE ARE ADOPTED citizens – we were provided a way – outside the normal.
At some point in the future – this PLAN B (this second chance) will be going away – when it does the people of Israel will be back in primary focus – and any reconciliation with God will only occur through the graces of the Israel people (meaning going through them).
A seven year period of time is coming. It goes by a wide range of Names – Jacob’s trouble, Daniel’s 70th Week and yes even the Tribulation “week”. During this time period (the seven years) God will be dealing primarily with Israel – all NON-Israel people go back to second class citizens.
THIS SEVEN YEAR period is NOT for the gentiles – it never has been – it appears the sole purpose of the seven year program – is the RESTORE Israel.
We learn in Micah 5: (NET Bible)
3 So the LORD will hand the people of Israel over to their enemies
until the time when the woman in labor gives birth.
Then the rest of the king’s countrymen will return
to be reunited with the people of Israel.
Other translations of Micah – call it abandonment or the people of Israel will be abandoned UNTIL…..
The primary point being made here is --- THE SEVEN YEARS is not for the Gentile people – IT IS FOR Israel……
One of Paul’s mysterious – which has come to be known as the rapture – actually explains the “HOW” the division of time will come about – the Body of Christ will be removed – BEFORE the start of the seven years.
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Post by kjs on Sept 14, 2017 8:10:34 GMT -6
I am one of those people who think the rapture is more likely to happen on the 21st or 22nd, so I'd say the chance of it happening on September 23 is smaller because I think we'll already be gone. If the question were what is the percent chance that we will have been raptured by September 24, then I would put that number pretty high, probably over 50%. Like many of you, I have been studying this stuff for years, and nothing comes together like 2017, and I continue to think Feast of Trumpets is the most likely time for the rapture to occur. If it doesn't happen this Feast of Trumpets, then we are left with two options: 1. The rapture will happen later this fall (or beyond), but not on Feast of Trumpets or 2. The rapture will happen on Feast of Trumpets 2018 or later. Since Feast of Trumpets seems more likely than not Feast of Trumpets, and 2017 seems more likely than other years (based on all the reasons we are all familiar with), that puts the odds of a rapture between, say, September 20 and September 23 as very high. Agree with Bruce -- if it happen this year -- then it will happen BEFORE the 24th. |
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Post by bruce on Sept 14, 2017 8:20:07 GMT -6
I am one of those people who think the rapture is more likely to happen on the 21st or 22nd, so I'd say the chance of it happening on September 23 is smaller because I think we'll already be gone. If the question were what is the percent chance that we will have been raptured by September 24, then I would put that number pretty high, probably over 50%. Like many of you, I have been studying this stuff for years, and nothing comes together like 2017, and I continue to think Feast of Trumpets is the most likely time for the rapture to occur. If it doesn't happen this Feast of Trumpets, then we are left with two options: 1. The rapture will happen later this fall (or beyond), but not on Feast of Trumpets or 2. The rapture will happen on Feast of Trumpets 2018 or later. Since Feast of Trumpets seems more likely than not Feast of Trumpets, and 2017 seems more likely than other years (based on all the reasons we are all familiar with), that puts the odds of a rapture between, say, September 20 and September 23 as very high. Agree with Bruce -- if it happen this year -- then it will happen BEFORE the 24th. Let me just clarify, I think it will most likely happen before the 24th, but as a fallen human who is prone to making errors, I have to acknowledge that there is a chance it could happen at a time that doesn't presently seem to make sense to me. At the present, what makes sense is late next week around the 20th to 24th. I leave open the possibility that God will reveal more knowledge should he tarry beyond the 24th, and that could include a reason why a rapture later in the fall might make sense. Just because I don't see it now doesn't mean it's not a possibility. I really hope we don't have to go down that road though of reassessing why there was no Feast of Trumpets 2017 rapture. I guess now we just have to wait and see. |
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