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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 11:58:57 GMT -6
I finally finished your epic Tiffany. I thought, perhaps, I should wait for the movie, but went for it anyway. Kidding all aside - thanks for taking the time to write up your thoughts. You can be sure that we won't be pointing fingers at you on Sept 24.
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Post by mike on Aug 31, 2017 12:02:37 GMT -6
I finally finished your epic Tiffany. I thought, perhaps, I should wait for the movie, but went for it anyway. Kidding all aside - thanks for taking the time to write up your thoughts. You can be sure that we won't be pointing fingers at you on Sept 24. I'm hoping to point at her the day before and say "Is that the novelist Tiffany?" as we go up up up
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 12:04:55 GMT -6
I finally finished your epic Tiffany. I thought, perhaps, I should wait for the movie, but went for it anyway. Kidding all aside - thanks for taking the time to write up your thoughts. You can be sure that we won't be pointing fingers at you on Sept 24. I'm hoping to point at her the day before and say "Is that the novelist Tiffany?" as we go up up up We'll recognize her by the trail of pages flapping in the breeze behind her as she goes up
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 31, 2017 12:10:40 GMT -6
WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS... (at least this is the camp I am in)... We are saying that Revelation 12:1-2 is being fulfilled right now and it seems that this alignment spoken of in the Bible, that everything best lines up, on September 23. What that means is that I believe that September 23 is the fulfillment of Revelation 12:1-2 (and I think this is for everyone else too including Scottie though I can't speak for him). The end. That's it. This is what I believe to be 100% FACT.
tiffanybw - i haven't finished reading your small book yet , but I did want to stop at this point and say Amen! I never know when to shut up. Just ask my husband!
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 31, 2017 12:11:38 GMT -6
Very well said, tiffany! There is nothing to add! I'd wish, all scoffing, rebuking and skeptical guys would read this post.... Me too. I just wish they would understand! I pray that they will.
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 31, 2017 12:28:35 GMT -6
Yesterday I was reminded about other websites such as Rapture Ready. Terry James has been one of those others out there whose publications got me interested in end time prophesy. I might consider him a Big Name since he is published, and his site is well-organized. Truthfully , I do not know his complete stance on general Biblical doctrine. But he seems to be a good soldier of prophesy and brother in Christ. There was an article posted by another writer at RR. I read it. And, go ahead, read it too. www.raptureready.com/2017/08/29/revelation-12-dont-go-by-astrology/Nothing surprises me on this person's insinuations. My only gripe was that I had not seen, at least in the recent glob of articles at RR, a similar article CORRECTLY stating what the Rev 12 sign hubbub is.. If you are going to have a site preparing you for the Rapture, would make sense to me to include both sides... So I emailed Terry personally about this. He was very polite, responded quickly. His main point to me in his own opinion is that the Rapture is a "signless event" . OK, there's a valid thought or opinion. Funny, though, Tiffany is way ahead of me on this and she has an excellent point that NO ONE is saying that Rev 12 is THE Rapture. Her comments satisfy my thoughts right here if I were to quote her here. HOWEVER...what has happened to me is this: The Great Sign is connecting the dots on many many scriptures, particularly Isaiah 66:7 "Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child." That's just one verse. Have you all reread Psalm 23 and 24? Read 23 (about man) with the thoughts of rapture on your mind...Read Psalm 24 (about earth) with what Revelation is saying about the Tribulation period...funny, too that it is the numbers 23 and 24... Lol... email him back... tell him it is not a "sign", it is a "wonder". Seriously though, I am praying for all of them over there because I do think most there truly have a heart for Jesus. I just wish everyone would "get" that this isn't necessarily about The Rapture per say (though it could be... and it definitely means that we need to be LOOKING UP because the TIME and the SEASON is NOW... our Master WILL be back at any moment). It is that what is happening right now... absolutely is what is described in Revelation 12:1-2. I found Rapture Ready early in my walk with Jesus, in fact, even before I joined there I used to lurk, read all the posts. I'm still a member there but haven't signed on at all lately. The Holy Spirit... I don't know... just isn't there anymore. It's more about "people" dictating what can and can't be talked about and if it is anything other than what "they" believe to be accurate, they SHUT IT DOWN. And QUICKLY. They lock some threads, completely delete others. The Blood Moons were a NO NO there. And so is The Revelation 12 sign/wonder. Can not even say "Revelation 12" over there. Just ask uscg vet (whom is a member here and there also). None of that is to say that it is a horrible place. I learned SO MUCH there that brought me closer to Jesus. I guess I just got to a point where I'm beyond where they are at, and I don't say that like I'm "better" than them because I am not. I pray for them and if one goes over there, many posts over there made by me, same user name (though no recent ones). There are many good people there, followers of Jesus. And I'm with you... if there should be ONE PLACE it should be allowed to discuss anything about or surrounding the topic of the Rapture... one would think it should be Rapture Ready, for goodness sakes! So, just pray for them. I think they will come round, pray they will see things as they actually are instead of as "date setting". And yes!!! You have got it! This sign connects the dots, brings so many things together that never made sense before, but now they do. Connecting the dots and the convergence of so many things, that is what this sign is about! And I can't wait to find out what happens next. And maybe next we go home! Not saying definitely. But maybe. Definitely, maybe!
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 31, 2017 12:32:13 GMT -6
Tiffany your novel is great. Barbio - my thought on the rapture being a signless event - is there a specific "sign" identifying it? Perhaps not. Are we to discern the signs of the times? The signs are everywhere! Exactly! AMEN!
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 31, 2017 12:40:38 GMT -6
I finally finished your epic Tiffany. I thought, perhaps, I should wait for the movie, but went for it anyway. Kidding all aside - thanks for taking the time to write up your thoughts. You can be sure that we won't be pointing fingers at you on Sept 24. Thank you for taking the time to read it. Many of my posts tend to end up being books, small novels... ha, ha! Promise, it is not on purpose. lol I want so badly for everyone to feel the joy that I do, and just to see things... exactly like the Bible wants us to see them. We always think we are "there". Even some with this Revelation 12 Sign, they think, "That's it! We are there! It means this (fill in the blank)!" No though. We aren't "there". I'm not "there". No one is, except Jesus. Even after He gets us, we won't be "there". I have a feeling we are still going to have so much more to learn, so much to do, time for celebration for sure when we first get there. But then comes the second 3 1/2 years, The Great Tribulation. And I don't think we are going to be celebrating then. We are going to be fighting, battling, for Him, for our Master who saved us, for our Servant who died for us, for Jesus! It is going to be hard work! But we won't be scared, just like I wasn't scared in my dream. Because we KNOW Him we fight for. And we KNOW the outcome.
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 31, 2017 12:44:04 GMT -6
I'm hoping to point at her the day before and say "Is that the novelist Tiffany?" as we go up up up We'll recognize her by the trail of pages flapping in the breeze behind her as she goes up Ok... ok Mike and Silentknight! Be silent now, knight. I guess one thing God could never call me is "silent". lol Uh oh... I think I've run out of paper...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 12:45:48 GMT -6
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Post by bruce on Aug 31, 2017 13:25:35 GMT -6
Tiffany, you are very right about September 24. If we are all still here on September 24, or even beyond for that matter, that says nothing about the validity of the sign on September 23. One thing that will happen on that date for certain (unless the celestial bodies themselves shift out of their predicted paths) is that that alignment will take place. All of us watchers can point back to September 23 regardless of what else may or may not happen and say "Revelation 12 was displayed in the sky on September 23, 2017".
I know trying to explain that to people who are determined to 1. call you a date setter and 2. prove that you are wrong will prove to be futile, but that's the truth of the matter. We have every reason to believe that there is some connection between that sign and the rapture, but until the events themselves unfold, we can only speculate as to the exact relationship between the timing of the sign and the timing of the rapture and other tribulation events. I wish the big names would be able to see it that way, but that seems to be asking too much.
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Post by MissusMack08 on Aug 31, 2017 13:38:24 GMT -6
I used to be attacked constantly, always in my sleep. For a long time I had insomnia because I was scared to death to go to sleep. I would have "dreams" but they were more real than anything I've ever experienced here in the physical, on earth. I would have to fight to wake up, literally fight and demons are so deceptive that they even make you think you have woken up when in fact you have not and I would have to fight so hard just to truly wake up (keep in mind I was being attacked because I was not in God's Will for me and was intentionally sinning at this time and so this is why I believe God allowed this to happen to me; it does not anymore; because I am IN His Will now). Hi Tiffany, I just wanted to say I've had many, many experiences just like yours. It's encouraging to know I'm not the only one who has gone through it. I also no longer get attacked at night in my dreams because the Holy Spirit brought me to repentance of the sins that were causing it. However, I still get "disturbed" while sleeping on occasion, but it has nothing to do with sin but rather the sensitivity God has given me in the spirit realm. I regularly engage in spiritual warfare (praying against spirits who are affecting people etc) and this has the tendency to bring other types of attacks on me, like I have a bullseye on my back. They like to enter my house while I'm sleeping and pester me by disturbing my sleep (waking up over and over and over) until I force myself to wake up and cast the sucker out. Then I go back to sleep peacefully. God bless your willingness to share about it. Like I said before, I'm really cautious about sharing my experiences, but I felt emboldened to share a little bit now because of your post.
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Post by evenso on Aug 31, 2017 14:14:49 GMT -6
Ok everyone. Barry has put my heart at ease and I am in an ok place regarding the Big Names out there that are dissing the Rev 12 sign... Perhaps this was linked on another thread, and I saw it via the shoutbox this morning. Great job Barry. He spoke kindly and with love and brother-ness in using Scripture to describe what is going on really. I came out of this video with much peace. I had to grin as I listened to this video and confess it's my first introduction to Barry. I haven't spent much time listening to those who are debunking the Rev. 12 teachings but those I have listened to seem to sarcastically and snidely talk about "those YouTube teachers." They hint that if you're not a published author or a TV personality, you have no credibility. Then this video comes along and basically says there could be an ulterior motive with THE prophecy teachers which is money and reputation so we might not want to listen to their views. One says don't trust the YouTubers, the other says don't trust the big wigs. Does anyone else see the humor in that?
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Post by sawdy on Aug 31, 2017 21:08:20 GMT -6
Tiffany your novel is great. Barbio - my thought on the rapture being a signless event - is there a specific "sign" identifying it? Perhaps not. Are we to discern the signs of the times? The signs are everywhere! Exactly! AMEN! I am always happy to see a post by Tiffany as sometimes my posts get lengthy and at least there is one person with longer posts than me. 😉 I really do feel like the signs are everywhere. What is the point of the blood moons, the jubilee celebrations, the "just plain coincidence/luck" eclipse, or any of the other things we see as nudges for the Lord, trying to get us ready and watching for his return? If there really was no point to all of it, I feel personally that the Lord wouldn't have directed me to this community and I would still be floundering in the online world of illuminati conspiracies and reading tomes on Pre-Wrath and wondering if I could afford to stockpile. What I really think we need to do is pray. Pray that God would soften peoples hearts to hearing about his wonders. That our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ would notice something different about us and seek to learn more about how brilliantly awesome our God is. We say it and sing it, but do most of us actually believe it? After watching Scott's latest presentation, I was wowed by how awesome God is and how the explanations clicked together like pieces of a puzzle. I had done Beth Moore's study Stepping Up about the Psalms of Ascent last fall with my Ladies Bible study group, so I had learned about the feasts and the significance of them. Prior to that, I would have considered myself knowledgeable but after that study I came to the realization that I could study the Bible everyday for the rest of my life and still be amazed by learning connections and interpretations that I wouldn't have seen on my first, second or third pass through. His Word is amazing! Since learning about the feasts, I had heard how the spring feasts were fulfilled by Jesus and how we are waiting the fulfillment of the fall feasts. When you learn about the significance of the feasts and how absolutely important they were, how can we honestly say that a sign in the heavens that happens to coincide with a feast- a fall feast - is not one bit remotely of importance? This past spring I was listening to Thru the Bible (Bible Bus) but had never listened to any on Revelation. So today at work, I turned on Revelation 12:1-5. While I was listening to it, I thought about how confusing it all sounded, which is probably why no one enjoys reading Revelation- everyone's explanations are just too complicated. I also thought about how the seals were opened and how if a seal is closed that knowledge isn't known. That is how I felt about listening to his explanation, that it was okay for the knowledge he had but it was lacking because of the leaps and bounds we have made in knowledge since then. (Being able to use Star charting software). So that is how I feel about a lot of our Church Leaders. They went to school and were taught to interpret the Bible in certain ways and have certain standards to adhere to because of the hierarchy of the church denominations and the desires of the congregation. Say something "wrong" and you can find yourself easily unemployed. I really feel we need to pray for all ministers, in all our Christian denominations because of all the challenges they have. There may be more that would be amazed at what makes excellent sense but are unable to confess that or even think to search for answers outside of what they have been taught. We need to pray that God would put it on their hearts to seek out explanations and be open to interpretation that aren't the norm. Will the rapture occur with the sign? I don't think that is the question to be asking. I think the question God wants us to ask is "Am I ready?" Because in the end, that is all that matters. I could hit a moose on my drive to town and be dead tomorrow if it was his will. The answer for me is yes, I am ready. And I am also ready to be amazed at how absolutely awesome my God is everytime he shows me something new in his word. I truly am "Starstruck" by his absolute design, down to the tiniest detail.
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Post by evenso on Aug 31, 2017 21:47:06 GMT -6
Sawdy, would you mind posting a link to Scottie's latest video? There are so many, I don't know how to find the latest.
Thanks!
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