BIG NAMES

I got a chance to listen to it this afternoon. I like him. And now I am curious as to what his sermon this morning was about.

I watched his video this afternoon. I don't think I had ever watched one of his videos although I have seen his name mentioned. I thought it was exactly what needed to be said. I too have been blessed by Jack Hibbs' teachings. Lately, I have been trying to make a point of seeing the other person's side, even if they are wrong I want to understand where they are coming from to see why they say what they do. It's not always easy. What Barry says about the big names makes sense.

I think we are very blessed to be a witness to what God is doing. He said to look up, He said there would be signs, and He said they would be before He returned.

As I said previously, having the "Big Names" poo-pah the Revelation 12 sign -- does not bother me as much as -- them continuing to collect profits off of Books and videos -- that say basically the same thing (minus Rev.12 of course) -- as what everyone else is saying.

Billy Crone -- is a easy target on this cause I have seen him pitch his new material  (Such as Jerusalem recaptured 50 years ago, the Blood Moons two years ago) -- which is all those "side-items" or "coincidences"  -- multiple people have brought up.

Yes, Barry points out these people have "A Lot to Lose" -- if this all turns out to be nothing -- so them taking a step back now -- is safer for them.

Am I saying these ministries need to be boycotted or Shunned -- no -- not at all -- they have accomplished good on their own.

This is really encouraging.  I love Dr. Arnold.  He has solid soteriology.  To have him almost onboard is definitely another sign of hope.

I didn't read the entire article, but most of it, and yes: Very respectful and not filled with all the disgust, vitriol, almost hatefulness of most of the other "big names" who oppose, denounce as nonsense, and declare outright wrong; that this is the Revelation 12 sign and the fulfillment of Revelation 12:1-2.

Edit right here to add: Really, it is not even a sign. The Bible says it is a "wonder", not a "sign". It says: "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars. 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered."

The thing that most people miss about all this, and including Nathan as he has missed it too, and I truly feel I need to scream this to the rooftops or maybe try rearranging the stars in the sky myself to SPELL IT OUT FOR THEM so hopefully they can understand there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between what they think we believe and what we actually believe....  and...  Here it comes....


NO ONE, including Scottie, including all the names one would think of who are proponents of and believe in this sign...   NOT EVEN ONE...   have ever said that The Rapture/Catching Away/Harpazo will happen on this exact day of September 23, the day of the fulfillment of this sign.


WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS...   (at least this is the camp I am in)...    We are saying that Revelation 12:1-2 is being fulfilled right now and it seems that this alignment spoken of in the Bible, that everything best lines up, on September 23. What that means is that I believe that September 23 is the fulfillment of Revelation 12:1-2 (and I think this is for everyone else too including Scottie though I can't speak for him). The end. That's it. This is what I believe to be 100% FACT. 



(The caps and the bold and the italics and the underlining are only for emphasis and not to mean that I am angry or screaming at my brothers and sisters in Christ who don't believe the same as I do... and maybe they believe that this is not the Revelation 12:1-2 sign at all; maybe they believe it is and it means 100% the Rapture will occur on that day. For me, I fall into neither camp. But what happens, people take something, assume something, and they run with it... and it is like one has to put dynamite in their brain and then light it...  so that they might actually just STOP and REALIZE that they themselves are adding on to this Revelation 12 sign teaching...  the same way they do with the words of the Bible (and I'm guilty of it too).)


And so, the thing is, what Nathan Jones says in this article is wrong (though brother I do love you and it's not about wrong or right or which of us is wrong or which of us is right). Here is a quote from the article that is linked in Bruce's post: 

"Regardless of the latest date-setting theory for the day of the Rapture, the authenticity of the Great Sign of Revelation 12 will be revealed as either true or false on September 24th."


No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, and however many times I have to say that in order for all those who misunderstand so they can "truly get it". NO (said nicely but firmly and with surety). This next statement I will bold for emphasis: 

If we are still here on September 24, 2017; the Great Sign of Revelation 12 will not have been revealed as false. No. Not true, and nothing will have been revealed as true or false and the Great Sign of Revelation 12 will still be there in the sky on September 24. It is THERE and it is AUTHENTIC. It will still be there on September 24 and it speaks for itself and the fact it is there fulfills Revelation 12:1-2. What it speaks to is, again, Revelation 12:1-2 and nothing more, nothing less. No adding to it and no taking away from it. So see, there is nothing to defend if we are still here on September 24. 

And we are not now "wrong" and if we are still here on September 24, we who believe in this sign still will not be "wrong". In fact, the following directed towards you Brother Nathan...  I am in the SAME BOAT as you are; and I am also hoping that on this day we The Church, we The Body, we The Bride; will be celebrating being reunited with Christ. Oh, how I wish for it! And oh how I do hope that is what this sign means, that exactly at that moment, we will be caught up to Him.


And maybe...  we will...  and it will be that exact day! If it is not though, on September 24, I will not be waking up, signing on to the internet and various social media sites, and defending how I was so so wrong and how this was not the Revelation 12:1-2, The Great Sign. Because...  IT IS. And there is nothing to defend as I never said we were getting raptured that day. What I will be doing that day, if I am still here on September 24, 2017...    I will be looking up even more than I was the day before. I will be watching even closer than I was the day before. I will be in prayer, in praise, in worship. I will be kneeling before Jesus humbling myself before Him. I will be reading His Word.



And I will be one of His servant's whom is expectantly waiting on my Master to arrive, having everything prepared perfectly as I can possibly make it for Him. Because I want to be a good servant. I don't want to be caught unaware when my Master comes for me. I want to please Him and make Him proud of me so that He might say to me when He comes...  "Well done, my good and faithful servant." I want to be with Him so badly, and so I'm waiting and when He comes and once I see Him I will grab hold of Him tight and I will NEVER let go ever again. If He rewards me...  great...  but for me I seriously do not care and all the reward I need or want is His Return, Him coming to get me...  then I think once He does we will have a battle on our hands to fight...  and then once we win we will live with Him in New Jerusalem for the next 1,000 years and He will Rule and Reign and I can't wait!!!

I think there is something I want to share. I'm apprehensive to share it but I'm feeling led to and this is so long I doubt anyone will read anyway lol. So here goes: Back when I was being demonically attacked there was one attack in particular that really stayed with me... because it was real... because I audibly heard this "thing", it's voice. And it was scary and not pleasant at all and just that there is no way to describe the voice of this "thing". I heard it though literally and audibly. 

I used to be attacked constantly, always in my sleep. For a long time I had insomnia because I was scared to death to go to sleep. I would have "dreams" but they were more real than anything I've ever experienced here in the physical, on earth. I would have to fight to wake up, literally fight and demons are so deceptive that they even make you think you have woken up when in fact you have not and I would have to fight so hard just to truly wake up (keep in mind I was being attacked because I was not in God's Will for me and was intentionally sinning at this time and so this is why I believe God allowed this to happen to me; it does not anymore; because I am IN His Will now). 

Anyways, I had tried to rebuke this "thing", told it to go away and it said no. Then I told it to leave me alone and that I was going to Heaven. It said to me no I am not and I am going to Edom. (What is really weird about this is at that time I had never heard the word Edom, didn't know what it meant, had never really read much at all in the OT and really I wasn't reading His Word at all like I should have been being that I had given my heart and my spirit and my life to Him.) 

I looked up "Edom", googled it, and proceeded to FREAK OUT (as if actually hearing the voice of that thing wasn't bad enough). 

This instance is one of the things that...  just really got my attention...  and really caused me to seek Jesus, to pursue Him with everything I had in me, to ask Him what am I doing wrong Lord and Convict me and help me to change and to live in Your Will. Still going, haven't stopped since, and Praise His Name because...  just...  He is AWESOME!

Last night I was reading. I have an archeological Bible and was reading Matthew 24 and there was a note on 24:3 that directed me to a page where they had a blurb about the Mount of Olives. I went to that, read it, and this blurb, it is on the same page as Zechariah 14. In the blurb it talked about how in Zechariah 14:4 that in the end times the Mount of Olives will completely split apart, from east to west, and a valley will be formed; an avenue of escape for those in Jerusalem who will be being attacked and under great siege (it talks all about it in Zechariah 14). 

For me, as I was reading, what struck me... was that this place being talked about and how it shall be one day and there will be not clear and not dark, that it will not be dark and it will not be light (this part reminded me of another dream I had where there were storms all around me and like I was one of many fighting, at battle, a serious situation and it wasn't dark but it wasn't light either and there were huge tornado like funnels everywhere but I wasn't scared). Whatever though and sorry because this post is so all over the place...  in Zechariah 14:8 it speaks of living waters that shall go out towards the former sea...   which is another name for The Dead Sea...   which is in or near... guess where....  EDOM. 

And so, that "thing" was trying to scare me and succeeded by telling me I was not going to Heaven but to Edom. Well, maybe I am going to "Edom", except it won't be called that and it will be called New Jerusalem where Jesus will Rule and Reign during the Millennium! Just last night this is what Jesus did for me and in helping me interpret and put my spirit at ease about that awful dream or whatever it was that happened to me back in 2015 experience of demonic attack. He is so awesome and He is supernatural and I think it is high time we His Children start embracing that! There is so much more than this physical side of the sea that we live in right now. 



Back to the "September 23, 2017" thing...   something WILL happen that day. I don't know exactly what. I hope we go Home that day, that our Master comes for us His servants. And I do not plan on being a servant who is not waiting on my Master's arrival, who is not prepared for Him. He will be coming at any time now and I am going to be waiting. If I'm still here September 24...  well...  that's just another day I have to be able to prepare for His Arrival.

If those who do not believe He is coming soon...  if they want to spend that day indulging in their pride...  and in saying "oh look everyone, look at us, we are right and you are wrong and don't you feel so stupid because where is Jesus...  huh...  where is he...  ha, ha... because we were right and He is not here". Well...  have at it! Whoop dee do! Have fun!

I'll be over here getting extra oil for my lamp and also praying for the people over "there" who are celebrating how they are "right" and making fun of me and those who believe like me for being such an idiot...  and celebrating because *ho hum* yay they are right and I am wrong so it is one big "I am right and I know everything and where is the sign of His Coming" party over there...   but hopefully they are keeping watch on their lamp while they celebrate being right and that it does not run out of oil. Hopefully they have at least one eye looking up and waiting upon the return of their Master. 

Very well said, tiffany!
There is nothing to add!

I'd wish, all scoffing, rebuking and skeptical guys would read this post....