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Post by uscgvet on Sept 29, 2022 12:57:16 GMT -6
Again, you're reading into the documents you're linking as sources. Assuming that "hundreds of tests" = hundreds of missiles is a assumption and a logical leap if that is not your area of expertise, which it isn't. ETA: we went over this before - every missile is technically "hypersonic", so it's really not the scare word that NTI wants it to be. Did you bother to look up the missiles named in the graphic you cited on page 8 of your first linked document? Turns out many of those were used up for conventional strikes in Ukraine, and if the flagship of the Black Fleet is any indication, the rest may not be capable of being launched. BTW they also found duds that used tech sourced from the west. The Russians can't build their own missiles from scratch, they can only assemble them at best. Numbers are meaningless. It's the same as Russia claiming they have 13,000 tanks. They might have the hulls in a yard in Siberia, but they aren't going anywhere. That's why they're using T-62s. They don't actually have more than a few thousand deployable tanks, and many of those are obsolete - not that their newest T-90 is going to be all that effective in the hands of a bunch of untrained, undersupplied, and unmotivated conscripts. Lastly, you're cherry-picking quotes again, as if right under your quote is a statement on how the US can deter a first strike. Not to mention this from page 8 which you cited earlier: "...[Russia] mistakenly assesses that the threat of nuclear escalation or actual first use of nuclear weapons would serve to “de-escalate” a conflict on terms favorable to Russia. These mistaken perceptions increase the prospect for dangerous miscalculation and escalation." Page 30: "The U.S. deterrent tailored to Russia, therefore, will be capable of holding at risk, under all conditions, what Russia’s leadership most values. It will pose insurmountable difficulties to any Russian strategy of aggression against the United States, its allies, or partners and ensure the credible prospect of unacceptably dire costs to the Russian leadership if it were to choose aggression." I would suggest you actually read and absorb the entire document you cite, instead of copypasta from whatever Russian source you get this BS from and interpret through your own poor reading of the Bible. is just the author injecting his/her own opinion on data they are reviewing, the data is still data and open to interpretation, just like the Bible that you claim I'm such a poor interpreter of: "...[Russia] mistakenly assesses that the threat of nuclear escalation or actual first use of nuclear weapons would serve to “de-escalate” a conflict on terms favorable to Russia. These mistaken perceptions increase the prospect for dangerous miscalculation and escalation." The fact that the author writes "that the threat of nuclear escalation or actual first use of nuclear weapons would serve to “de-escalate” a conflict on terms favorable to Russia" is justification that Russia believes this to be true regardless of the author's opinion. It doesn't matter if we think it's wrong for Russia to believe it, Russia has this in their playbook. That's what's important. The arrogance to believe that Russia or China could NEVER win against good 'ole USA/EU (Babylon) will be tested one day. |
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Post by socalexile on Sept 29, 2022 13:21:16 GMT -6
Again, you're reading into the documents you're linking as sources. Assuming that "hundreds of tests" = hundreds of missiles is a assumption and a logical leap if that is not your area of expertise, which it isn't. ETA: we went over this before - every missile is technically "hypersonic", so it's really not the scare word that NTI wants it to be. Did you bother to look up the missiles named in the graphic you cited on page 8 of your first linked document? Turns out many of those were used up for conventional strikes in Ukraine, and if the flagship of the Black Fleet is any indication, the rest may not be capable of being launched. BTW they also found duds that used tech sourced from the west. The Russians can't build their own missiles from scratch, they can only assemble them at best. Numbers are meaningless. It's the same as Russia claiming they have 13,000 tanks. They might have the hulls in a yard in Siberia, but they aren't going anywhere. That's why they're using T-62s. They don't actually have more than a few thousand deployable tanks, and many of those are obsolete - not that their newest T-90 is going to be all that effective in the hands of a bunch of untrained, undersupplied, and unmotivated conscripts. Lastly, you're cherry-picking quotes again, as if right under your quote is a statement on how the US can deter a first strike. Not to mention this from page 8 which you cited earlier: "...[Russia] mistakenly assesses that the threat of nuclear escalation or actual first use of nuclear weapons would serve to “de-escalate” a conflict on terms favorable to Russia. These mistaken perceptions increase the prospect for dangerous miscalculation and escalation." Page 30: "The U.S. deterrent tailored to Russia, therefore, will be capable of holding at risk, under all conditions, what Russia’s leadership most values. It will pose insurmountable difficulties to any Russian strategy of aggression against the United States, its allies, or partners and ensure the credible prospect of unacceptably dire costs to the Russian leadership if it were to choose aggression." I would suggest you actually read and absorb the entire document you cite, instead of copypasta from whatever Russian source you get this BS from and interpret through your own poor reading of the Bible. is just the author injecting his/her own opinion on data they are reviewing, the data is still data and open to interpretation, just like the Bible that you claim I'm such a poor interpreter of: "...[Russia] mistakenly assesses that the threat of nuclear escalation or actual first use of nuclear weapons would serve to “de-escalate” a conflict on terms favorable to Russia. These mistaken perceptions increase the prospect for dangerous miscalculation and escalation." The fact that the author writes "that the threat of nuclear escalation or actual first use of nuclear weapons would serve to “de-escalate” a conflict on terms favorable to Russia" is justification that Russia believes this to be true regardless of the author's opinion. It doesn't matter if we think it's wrong for Russia to believe it, Russia has this in their playbook. That's what's important. The arrogance to believe that Russia or China could NEVER win against good 'ole USA/EU (Babylon) will be tested one day. LOL the Russians can't even win against Ukraine. |
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Post by uscgvet on Sept 29, 2022 14:13:24 GMT -6
This is just the author injecting his/her own opinion on data they are reviewing, the data is still data and open to interpretation, just like the Bible that you claim I'm such a poor interpreter of: "...[Russia] mistakenly assesses that the threat of nuclear escalation or actual first use of nuclear weapons would serve to “de-escalate” a conflict on terms favorable to Russia. These mistaken perceptions increase the prospect for dangerous miscalculation and escalation." The fact that the author writes "that the threat of nuclear escalation or actual first use of nuclear weapons would serve to “de-escalate” a conflict on terms favorable to Russia" is justification that Russia believes this to be true regardless of the author's opinion. It doesn't matter if we think it's wrong for Russia to believe it, Russia has this in their playbook. That's what's important. The arrogance to believe that Russia or China could NEVER win against good 'ole USA/EU (Babylon) will be tested one day. LOL the Russians can't even win against Ukraine. Russians are not fighting against the Ukraine, they are fighting against Ukrainians that are funded and equipped by Babylon. |
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Post by socalexile on Sept 29, 2022 17:49:41 GMT -6
LOL the Russians can't even win against Ukraine. Russians are not fighting against the Ukraine, they are fighting against Ukrainians that are funded and equipped by Babylon. Confusing contradictions aside, If you hate the US so much why don't you leave it? Unlike the Jews in actual Babylon, you're free to leave. ETA: The funniest part is that Russia has been supplying more equipment to Ukraine during this war than the west does. Russia is Babylon according to your blather. |
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Post by socalexile on Sept 29, 2022 17:54:00 GMT -6
LOL the Russians can't even win against Ukraine. Russians are not fighting against the Ukraine, they are fighting against Ukrainians that are funded and equipped by Babylon. BTW, it's not "the Ukraine", just "Ukraine"...and it's full of Ukrainians who don't want to be ruled by Russia and suffer genocide again. Like how actual Babylon invaded Israel...ironically Zelenskyy is a Jew. As if Russia and Putin haven't proven themselves as committed to depravity. |
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Post by uscgvet on Sept 30, 2022 10:40:29 GMT -6
Per Philippians 3, our confidence and citizenship are supposed to be Spiritual with God and His Son Jesus Christ, not in the flesh, not in Babylon, Russia, or whatever.
God's plan with his footstool (Isaiah 66:1) is whatever He wants done with it. Jesus said the scribes and prophets were about Him, and it will all be fulfilled, some has, lots hasn't yet.
It does me no good leaving one part of his footstool for another part, Jesus Christ Himself said, "For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth." in Luke 21:35.
The things Jesus described in Luke 21 haven't happened at a world-wide scale yet. This is unfulfilled prophecy.
Since it's only been 1989 years since the death of the Testator (Hebrews 9:15-17), I'm expecting the show that Jesus Christ Himself described will kick off soon at the scale he set, world-wide.
The Prophets also describe these events that Jesus was illuding too over and over and over again in great detail.
Jeremiah 4:5-10 sounds like nukes to me.
Especially Jeremiah 4:23-31 Nukes level the land (Babylon because of "dressed in scarlet").
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With the current state of the world right now, I think this is within the realm of possibilities.
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Post by socalexile on Sept 30, 2022 10:50:07 GMT -6
Per Philippians 3, our confidence and citizenship are supposed to be Spiritual with God and His Son Jesus Christ, not in the flesh, not in Babylon, Russia, or whatever. God's plan with his footstool (Isaiah 66:1) is whatever He wants done with it. Jesus said the scribes and prophets were about Him, and it will all be fulfilled, some has, lots hasn't yet. It does me no good leaving one part of his footstool for another part, Jesus Christ Himself said, "For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth." in Luke 21:35. The things Jesus described in Luke 21 haven't happened at a world-wide scale yet. This is unfulfilled prophecy. Since it's only been 1989 years since the death of the Testator (Hebrews 9:15-17), I'm expecting the show that Jesus Christ Himself described will kick off soon at the scale he set, world-wide. The Prophets also describe these events that Jesus was illuding too over and over and over again in great detail. Jeremiah 4:5-10 sounds like nukes to me. Especially Jeremiah 4:23-28 Nukes level the land. -------------- With the current state of the world right now, I think this is within the realm of possibilities. You seem pretty confident in Russia's capabilities, despite the evidence. Do you approve of what Putin and Russia are doing? Do the Ukrainians have a right to defend their homes? |
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Post by uscgvet on Sept 30, 2022 11:02:37 GMT -6
Per Philippians 3, our confidence and citizenship are supposed to be Spiritual with God and His Son Jesus Christ, not in the flesh, not in Babylon, Russia, or whatever. God's plan with his footstool (Isaiah 66:1) is whatever He wants done with it. Jesus said the scribes and prophets were about Him, and it will all be fulfilled, some has, lots hasn't yet. It does me no good leaving one part of his footstool for another part, Jesus Christ Himself said, "For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth." in Luke 21:35. The things Jesus described in Luke 21 haven't happened at a world-wide scale yet. This is unfulfilled prophecy. Since it's only been 1989 years since the death of the Testator (Hebrews 9:15-17), I'm expecting the show that Jesus Christ Himself described will kick off soon at the scale he set, world-wide. The Prophets also describe these events that Jesus was illuding too over and over and over again in great detail. Jeremiah 4:5-10 sounds like nukes to me. Especially Jeremiah 4:23-28 Nukes level the land. -------------- With the current state of the world right now, I think this is within the realm of possibilities. You seem pretty confident in Russia's capabilities, despite the evidence. Do you approve of what Putin and Russia are doing? Do the Ukrainians have a right to defend their homes? "despite the evidence" ... you mean the evidence from our own government researchers that I .... literally.... just quoted from a few posts back ... stating the nature of new, not old, nuclear equipment? We only can observe in awe of God is doing. My approval is irrelevant. If God intends on Russia and America/EU/Ukraine going at it with nukes to fulfill Bible prophecy written thousands of years ago, proving God exists and He told us this would happen, I'm on board with God! In fact, I believe Ezekiel 37 valley of dry bones (slain people, not just people that died of natural causes, they were slain) is after the world scale nuke attack. The watching world will see these nuked deserts come back to life. Here is what Putin thinks for those interested: twitter.com/i/status/1575546601321308160 |
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Post by uscgvet on Sept 30, 2022 12:08:38 GMT -6
NATO Secretary General:
Notes:
He avoided the question when asked if they would add Ukraine to Nato quickly.
He only stated that they will support Ukraine.
He later said (8m 31s into the video) NATO will support Ukraine invading the lands that Russia just annexed, to take the lands back, even if it results in nuclear war.
Later he added that if Russia uses Nukes NATO will respond.
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Post by socalexile on Sept 30, 2022 13:36:14 GMT -6
You seem pretty confident in Russia's capabilities, despite the evidence. Do you approve of what Putin and Russia are doing? Do the Ukrainians have a right to defend their homes? "despite the evidence" ... you mean the evidence from our own government researchers that I .... literally.... just quoted from a few posts back ... stating the nature of new, not old, nuclear equipment? We only can observe in awe of God is doing. My approval is irrelevant. If God intends on Russia and America/EU/Ukraine going at it with nukes to fulfill Bible prophecy written thousands of years ago, proving God exists and He told us this would happen, I'm on board with God! In fact, I believe Ezekiel 37 valley of dry bones (slain people, not just people that died of natural causes, they were slain) is after the world scale nuke attack. The watching world will see these nuked deserts come back to life. Here is what Putin thinks for those interested: twitter.com/i/status/1575546601321308160And you seriously believe him? You're deceived. He is no way a moral superior and his speech justifying the war was full of lies and illogical conclusions. |
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Post by socalexile on Sept 30, 2022 13:38:35 GMT -6
NATO Secretary General: Notes: He avoided the question when asked if they would add Ukraine to Nato quickly. He only stated that they will support Ukraine. He later said (8m 31s into the video) NATO will support Ukraine invading the lands that Russia just annexed, to take the lands back, even if it results in nuclear war. Later he added that if Russia uses Nukes NATO will respond. You're missing one key element: Joining NATO is voluntary and peaceful. Russia is forcefully seizing land killing hundreds of thousands (or more) in the process. You're calling evil good and good evil. |
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Post by uscgvet on Sept 30, 2022 15:56:09 GMT -6
"despite the evidence" ... you mean the evidence from our own government researchers that I .... literally.... just quoted from a few posts back ... stating the nature of new, not old, nuclear equipment? We only can observe in awe of God is doing. My approval is irrelevant. If God intends on Russia and America/EU/Ukraine going at it with nukes to fulfill Bible prophecy written thousands of years ago, proving God exists and He told us this would happen, I'm on board with God! In fact, I believe Ezekiel 37 valley of dry bones (slain people, not just people that died of natural causes, they were slain) is after the world scale nuke attack. The watching world will see these nuked deserts come back to life. Here is what Putin thinks for those interested: twitter.com/i/status/1575546601321308160And you seriously believe him? You're deceived. He is no way a moral superior and his speech justifying the war was full of lies and illogical conclusions. Putin is revealing his position as one being under direct threat of extermination by the West. Yes, absolutely, I 110% believe that Putin believes his entire nation, Russia's entire population is under direct treat of extermination from the West. I believe that Putin is fully willing and capable to make the call that if he goes down, he will take the West down with him. |
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Post by uscgvet on Sept 30, 2022 16:03:32 GMT -6
NATO Secretary General: Notes: He avoided the question when asked if they would add Ukraine to Nato quickly. He only stated that they will support Ukraine. He later said (8m 31s into the video) NATO will support Ukraine invading the lands that Russia just annexed, to take the lands back, even if it results in nuclear war. Later he added that if Russia uses Nukes NATO will respond. You're missing one key element: Joining NATO is voluntary and peaceful. Russia is forcefully seizing land killing hundreds of thousands (or more) in the process. You're calling evil good and good evil. Ukraine joining forces with NATO is a direct threat to the Russian's way of life. It's not of peace, the motive is one of war; Ukraine wants full NATO protection as it invades the newly annexed land that Russia has acquired. Yes, Russia is forcefully seizing land, but I thought you said Russia was inept, incapable of winning this war? 50 year old+ weapons, aged bullets, failing equipment. How are they killing thousands (or more) with nothing to fight with? I thought you said they were losing. How is it possible that they annexed the land without a means to fight? I'm not calling anything evil or good. This is God's show, I'm just sitting back waiting for it to pan out. |
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Post by uscgvet on Oct 1, 2022 7:02:41 GMT -6
Whoa!
Interesting Tweet from one of the attendees.
I'll post some Bible quotes later on this attendee's thoughts.
Edits below as I get to them:
Isaiah 10:6 I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.
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Post by socalexile on Oct 1, 2022 10:42:11 GMT -6
And you seriously believe him? You're deceived. He is no way a moral superior and his speech justifying the war was full of lies and illogical conclusions. Putin is revealing his position as one being under direct threat of extermination by the West. Yes, absolutely, I 110% believe that Putin believes his entire nation, Russia's entire population is under direct treat of extermination from the West. I believe that Putin is fully willing and capable to make the call that if he goes down, he will take the West down with him. LOL Putin is worried about personal survival, but the west didn't care until he invaded Ukraine. |
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