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Post by tennessean on Nov 13, 2021 7:42:11 GMT -6
I am still looking at this for when the rapture could possibly take place, but you know, the way things are transpiring it does not seem as if marrying and given in marriage or the many things that you were able to do before the flood of Noah's day will be able to be done anymore in our time frame. I have heard it taught that Heshvan 17 is November 21, 22 and this is supposed to be the date Noah entered the ark and was shut in by the Lord. Could this be when the day the age of Grace will end, I put this out there for you to contemplate and chew on. The Gregorian calender is not the one the Lord uses but the Hebrew calender.
Noah’s Ark and the Flood
Overview of Noah’s Ark and The Flood: Genesis Chapters 6-11
The events of The Flood and Noah’s Ark begin with the DFC date of the death of Methuselah on Friday September 13 – Tishri 1 in 2458 BC on the 364-Day calendar. Noah’s family enters the Ark 47 days after the death of Methuselah’s on Wednesday October 30 – Heshvan 10 in 2458 BC. This same day on the Gregorian-Hebrew Solar Calendar is Wednesday March 19 – Adar 29, 2449 BC. Genesis 7:11-12 tells us that 7 Days later, on Wednesday November 6 – Heshvan 17, it began to rain “for forty days and forty nights.”
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Post by venge on Nov 13, 2021 7:50:29 GMT -6
You know, the flood lasted 40 days/nights. Not 7 years....That is something to think about.
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Post by rondonmonson on Nov 13, 2021 11:18:05 GMT -6
I am still looking at this for when the rapture could possibly take place, but you know, the way things are transpiring it does not seem as if marrying and given in marriage or the many things that you were able to do before the flood of Noah's day will be able to be done anymore in our time frame. I have heard it taught that Heshvan 17 is November 21, 22 and this is supposed to be the date Noah entered the ark and was shut in by the Lord. Could this be when the day the age of Grace will end, I put this out there for you to contemplate and chew on. The Gregorian calender is not the one the Lord uses but the Hebrew calender.
Noah’s Ark and the Flood
Overview of Noah’s Ark and The Flood: Genesis Chapters 6-11
The events of The Flood and Noah’s Ark begin with the DFC date of the death of Methuselah on Friday September 13 – Tishri 1 in 2458 BC on the 364-Day calendar. Noah’s family enters the Ark 47 days after the death of Methuselah’s on Wednesday October 30 – Heshvan 10 in 2458 BC. This same day on the Gregorian-Hebrew Solar Calendar is Wednesday March 19 – Adar 29, 2449 BC. Genesis 7:11-12 tells us that 7 Days later, on Wednesday November 6 – Heshvan 17, it began to rain “for forty days and forty nights.”
I think you are missing the point Jesus was making, (which by the way actually proves a Pre Tribulation Rapture when one finally gets it). Jesus is JUXTAPOSING the days of Noah with the days just before the Rapture. Thus he compares the two times and says in both instances the people alive at that time were (Basically) UNAWARE of their coming fate, so much so that they were just going about life in an every day type of way, eating, drinking marrying etc. etc. not knowing that JUDGMENT was at hand in both cases. HOW SO? Well, once the Rain started Judgment was soon to follow, within the next 40 days, likewise, once the Rapture happens, Judgment upon those people still on earth will happen within the next 1260 days or after the Wrath starts in 1260 days, but once you miss that Rapture, your fate is sealed unless you die of natural causes, you will go through God's Wrath. If this was about the "Second Coming" no one would be said to living a normal life UNAWARE of the coming Judgments, because they would be dodging God's Wrath for 1260 days at the Second Coming, thus they would have been aware, not unaware. |
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Post by tennessean on Nov 13, 2021 18:17:40 GMT -6
Dr Barry Awe
23.8K subscribers
The RAPTURE is God's Judgement Day;
who was saved and who was left behind. God Appointed this day before the foundations of the earth and He alloted a perfect period of time to fulfill His plan. There is no delay, and God is not waiting for anything on earth to happen. God told Adam that He would destroy the earth 2 times. First by water, the last by Fire. Will God send the second destruction on the anniversary of the first? That IS His style. Think of this; upon the Rapture Day, the Spirit of God will leave the earth, and the Grace of God will end, at the same time that sudden destruction falls on the left behind who rejected God.
sounds strangely familiar...🤔
My brother has just sent this to me, the presenter has a good sense of humor but as my brother said, he knows what he is talking about.
Be sure to read the comment section for reaction to Barry Awe's presentation.
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Post by venge on Nov 14, 2021 8:08:05 GMT -6
Beware of false prophets and itching ears.
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Post by boraddict on Nov 14, 2021 11:00:08 GMT -6
Beware of false prophets and itching ears. My ears have been itching for the past 2 years. Hope that I am not a false prophet. However, one thing that I have been thinking about lately is why the Book of Revelation was written. It clearly was not to provide additionally information about the tribulation era because as Natalie has point out to me several times that the information in BofR is also found in the other books of scripture; and especially as I recall in the prophets. So, as I consider the BofR, it appears that the big big difference is the writer who has condensed the tribulation information into one book. Which by the way, we have no absolute interpretation. So what is the book about and I propose it is about the writer as much as it is about the book. And on to information about the writer as shown in Rev. 1:2 in that he wrote The Gospel According to John. He wrote that gospel to those who believed whereas the other gospel writers wrote to convert people to believe. Thus, the BofR is to those who believe and not to convert those who do not believe. Thus, he is writing to the followers of Christ and to those who believe his (John's) gospel message. So it goes that Noah and his family went into the Ark and was lifted upon the waters of life then likewise at some point someone will go into something to be lifted upon the life giving spirit of God and that something is the city of New Jerusalem IMO. Because, just like Noah's Ark descending down upon the earth as the destroying waters dissipate then likewise the city of New Jerusalem descends down upon the earth (Rev. 21:2) as the destroying effects of the burning (Rev. 16:21) dissipate; something like that. So it seems that the people are taken off the earth in the city and then the people are returned to the earth in the city. They go in, then they stay, and then they return. The city must be built and the doors must be closed prior to the departure; that lifting of the city from the earth. The dead that are resurrected may do something different but the city appears to be the latter day Ark of Noah. To me the city leaving the earth is somehow addressed in the BofR. As I recall, the temple will be built in tumultuous times. Is the script saying that the city will be built during the tribulation era? Please consider Rev. 7 wherein the gathering of saints is protected. Where do they gather but to a city? That is, they do not gather in farm houses scattered throughout the world. No, they gather together into what? A city. And, that city is their new home until the rapture of that city from the earth takes place. So I realize that the traditional concept of the rapture is of saints going up into the sky. But, with the evidence of Noah's Ark, and the descent of New Jerusalem to the earth then it is reasonable that the city is built, lived in, lifted from the earth, and descends to the earth in the same generation and in a short amount of time. |
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Post by tennessean on Nov 14, 2021 23:41:00 GMT -6
a comment for Doctor Barry Awe
Lena Youngblood
Pinned by Dr Barry Awe
Lena Youngblood
4 days ago (edited)
This was soooooo needed and VERY encouraging to the Body.
When I lost my job for not taking the clotshot I cried and so overwhelmed for a week. Continuing to pray for guidance on where to go, what to do. Asking God, how am I to run a house financially as single mom with disabled son getting ready to have surgery # 28 (total hip replacement) when all I could see was to take a travel nurse job in Florida or South Dakota? (Jab isn’t mandated there). Who will care for my boy while I go make money we need? So many questions for God. Knowing I’m not alone with millions facing the same thing, right? Then I started thinking, ok, I’m not alone, millions facing the same trial as me. God will not leave so many of His children to face being homeless, jobless, hungry and cold. It seemed way to close to the Tribulation. Then I heard God say “my child, you are worrying and crying about things you won’t even face! Be glad and have joy your last days on earth. I come quickly! Just hold on a little while longer”.
Just like that, complete peace and joy fell upon me. Not even worried about a job and putting food on our table. The joy of Jesus’ return and what THAT will be like is what’s on my mind. Of course I will look for a job, occupying my time for earthly responsibilities as a Mom, BUT that doesn’t consume me any longer because I know Jesus is coming QUICKLY!!!
Be glad y’all, have joy, let His light shine through you attracting the unbeliever to your radiance. Share His word and His Gospel of Grace. But most of all LOOK UP, our redemption draws nigh!!
Jesus is coming family. Just as He promised. God Bless you all family.
Thank you Dr Barry and Danielle. I just love you guys so much. I’ll see you at the table 🙌🏼❤️🌈✈️💯🙏🏻👑😇
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Post by tennessean on Nov 15, 2021 12:54:38 GMT -6
I am still looking at this for when the rapture could possibly take place, but you know, the way things are transpiring it does not seem as if marrying and given in marriage or the many things that you were able to do before the flood of Noah's day will be able to be done anymore in our time frame. I have heard it taught that Heshvan 17 is November 21, 22 and this is supposed to be the date Noah entered the ark and was shut in by the Lord. Could this be when the day the age of Grace will end, I put this out there for you to contemplate and chew on. The Gregorian calender is not the one the Lord uses but the Hebrew calender.
Noah’s Ark and the Flood
Overview of Noah’s Ark and The Flood: Genesis Chapters 6-11
The events of The Flood and Noah’s Ark begin with the DFC date of the death of Methuselah on Friday September 13 – Tishri 1 in 2458 BC on the 364-Day calendar. Noah’s family enters the Ark 47 days after the death of Methuselah’s on Wednesday October 30 – Heshvan 10 in 2458 BC. This same day on the Gregorian-Hebrew Solar Calendar is Wednesday March 19 – Adar 29, 2449 BC. Genesis 7:11-12 tells us that 7 Days later, on Wednesday November 6 – Heshvan 17, it began to rain “for forty days and forty nights.”
I think you are missing the point Jesus was making, (which by the way actually proves a Pre Tribulation Wrath when one finally gets it). Jesus is JUXTAPOSING the days of Noah with the days just before the Rapture. Thus he compares the two times and says in both instances the people alive at that time were (Basically) UNAWARE of their coming fate, so much so that they were just going about life in an every day type of way, eating, drinking marrying etc. etc. not knowing that JUDGMENT was at hand in both cases. HOW SO? Well, once the Rain started Judgment was soon to follow, within the next 40 days, likewise, once the Rapture happens, Judgment upon those people still on earth will happen within the next 1260 days or after the Wrath starts in 1260 days, but once you miss that Rapture, your fate is sealed unless you die of natural causes, you will go through God's Wrath. If this was about the "Second Coming" no one would be said to living a normal life UNAWARE of the coming Judgments, because they would be dodging God's Wrath for 1260 days at the Second Coming, thus they would have been aware, not unaware. Daniel 9:26-27
26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Right between 26 and 27, the age of grace or the church age is not mentioned. Messiah is cut off but not for himself, this had been fulfilled by Jesus on the cross, now we are waiting for the age of grace or the church age to be over so that the ac can come to power. Once the covenant will have been put into effect, the 7 year tribulation period can begin.
Grace will have been lifted off the earth once the rapture happens , the church body will be complete.
Will the end of grace or the lifting of grace happen on the anniversary of the flood, it is very possible and it is not far off as the day of the anniversary of the flood is November 21,22 according to God's calender. Remember the 1st judgement was by water, and the second that is coming will be by fire.
Could this be a think not moment,
Matthew 24:44
“Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.”
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41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
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Post by rondonmonson on Nov 15, 2021 16:11:15 GMT -6
I think you are missing the point Jesus was making, (which by the way actually proves a Pre Tribulation Wrath when one finally gets it). Jesus is JUXTAPOSING the days of Noah with the days just before the Rapture. Thus he compares the two times and says in both instances the people alive at that time were (Basically) UNAWARE of their coming fate, so much so that they were just going about life in an every day type of way, eating, drinking marrying etc. etc. not knowing that JUDGMENT was at hand in both cases. HOW SO? Well, once the Rain started Judgment was soon to follow, within the next 40 days, likewise, once the Rapture happens, Judgment upon those people still on earth will happen within the next 1260 days or after the Wrath starts in 1260 days, but once you miss that Rapture, your fate is sealed unless you die of natural causes, you will go through God's Wrath. If this was about the "Second Coming" no one would be said to living a normal life UNAWARE of the coming Judgments, because they would be dodging God's Wrath for 1260 days at the Second Coming, thus they would have been aware, not unaware. Daniel 9:26-27
26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Right between 26 and 27, the age of grace or the church age is not mentioned. Messiah is cut off but not for himself, this had been fulfilled by Jesus on the cross, now we are waiting for the age of grace or the church age to be over so that the ac can come to power. Once the covenant will have been put into effect, the 7 year tribulation period can begin.
Grace will have been lifted off the earth once the rapture happens , the church body will be complete.
Will the end of grace or the lifting of grace happen on the anniversary of the flood, it is very possible and it is not far off as the day of the anniversary of the flood is November 21,22 according to God's calender. Remember the 1st judgement was by water, and the second that is coming will be by fire.
Could this be a think not moment,
Matthew 24:44
“Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.”
King James Version (KJV)
< Previous Verse
Next Verse >
▲ View Chapter
Matthew 24:44 Context
41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? 46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
I watched a good bit of the video above, I have seen both guys on YUTUBE before, the Kim guy (I am pretty sure that was his name, if not am speaking of the Asian guy) is all over the place and seems confused, the other guy listens to Kim so, it is what it is on that. On to this post to keep it in order. I don't see Grace leaving the earth, that is a misconception of the Holy Spirit UNBLOCKING the blocked path of the Anti-Christ. People get saved after the Rapture, which is Pre Trib. That is why we have 70th week Saints. The Holy Spirit's "Blocking Effort" is lifted. Just like an Embargo is lifted or taken out of the way, but those ships which were blocking the shipping lanes are still in the area. I agree, after Dan 9:26 and just before 9:27 we get the Church Age (in general) but it does start a little earlier than 70 AD, but I understand the overall point, the time of the Gentiles starts in 70 AD because the Jews are dispersed the world over at that point in time. In Hosea we see a picture of this, he had to marry a prostitute via God's instructions and thus God gives us a picture of his relationship with Israel. Then after she grew old and lost her looks and was about to be sold into slaver, Hosea was told to go buy her and to receive her back unto himself, just like God will do Israel. Amen. |
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Post by tennessean on Nov 19, 2021 19:33:42 GMT -6
Dr Barry Awe 23.8K subscribers The RAPTURE is God's Judgement Day; who was saved and who was left behind. God Appointed this day before the foundations of the earth and He alloted a perfect period of time to fulfill His plan. There is no delay, and God is not waiting for anything on earth to happen. God told Adam that He would destroy the earth 2 times. First by water, the last by Fire. Will God send the second destruction on the anniversary of the first? That IS His style. Think of this; upon the Rapture Day, the Spirit of God will leave the earth, and the Grace of God will end, at the same time that sudden destruction falls on the left behind who rejected God. sounds strangely familiar...🤔 My brother has just sent this to me, the presenter has a good sense of humor but as my brother said, he knows what he is talking about. Be sure to read the comment section for reaction to Barry Awe's presentation. |
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Post by venge on Nov 19, 2021 20:31:55 GMT -6
So he won’t repent if he’s wrong on the first date. He moves the goal post and if he fails then, still no repenting? If it doesn’t come true, he’s a false prophet deceiving many
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Post by uscgvet on Nov 20, 2021 21:07:33 GMT -6
He gave a disclaimer of not knowing the date of the rapture in the beginning of the video.
Then he links the day that Noah and his family and animals enter the ark and wait 7 days with the likely event of the rapture.
I disagree with him stating God shut the door on the 7th day that Noah was inside the ark, God actually shut the door on the first day, then Noah, his family and animals waited for the rains to start for 6-7 days. Genesis 7:13-17 is one long point being made and it all occurred in a single day, the first of the 7 days.
Genesis 7:13 In the selfsame day entered Noah...........17...the Lord shut him in. <<---- that's the first day. It all happened in one single day.
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Other than that, I didn't see anything wrong with what he stated. He wasn't making a claim of any date being the actual rapture date.
He even mentioned the year 2028 AD. That would be 2000 years after Christ began his ministry, or maybe 2000 years after his death/resurrection. I still think the 2nd advent will be closer to 2034 AD due to Stephen being stoned, which would be the full rejection of the Holy Spirit.
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Post by venge on Nov 21, 2021 7:28:09 GMT -6
He gave a disclaimer of not knowing the date of the rapture in the beginning of the video. Then he links the day that Noah and his family and animals enter the ark and wait 7 days with the likely event of the rapture. I disagree with him stating God shut the door on the 7th day that Noah was inside the ark, God actually shut the door on the first day, then Noah, his family and animals waited for the rains to start for 6-7 days. Genesis 7:13-17 is one long point being made and it all occurred in a single day, the first of the 7 days. Genesis 7:13 In the selfsame day entered Noah...........17...the Lord shut him in. <<---- that's the first day. It all happened in one single day. ------------- Other than that, I didn't see anything wrong with what he stated. He wasn't making a claim of any date being the actual rapture date. He even mentioned the year 2028 AD. That would be 2000 years after Christ began his ministry, or maybe 2000 years after his death/resurrection. I still think the 2nd advent will be closer to 2034 AD due to Stephen being stoned, which would be the full rejection of the Holy Spirit. He entered in the selfsame day the waters were upon the earth. Verse 10-12 makes it clear. Not 7 days before; which was the command to prepare the ark for receiving the unclean and clean. With the logic we enter 7 days before, that would mean you rapture 7 years before a 7 year tribulation. That’s 14 year total! Since you must enter 7 before it starts. Bad logic and it doesn’t follow through with most commentaries Btw, for others, anguish and sorrow were already on the earth before the rain. Those wars, murders etc were not God’s wrath. When do we see a flood or rain waters increasing in Revelation? |
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Post by uscgvet on Nov 21, 2021 7:39:00 GMT -6
He gave a disclaimer of not knowing the date of the rapture in the beginning of the video. Then he links the day that Noah and his family and animals enter the ark and wait 7 days with the likely event of the rapture. I disagree with him stating God shut the door on the 7th day that Noah was inside the ark, God actually shut the door on the first day, then Noah, his family and animals waited for the rains to start for 6-7 days. Genesis 7:13-17 is one long point being made and it all occurred in a single day, the first of the 7 days. Genesis 7:13 In the selfsame day entered Noah...........17...the Lord shut him in. <<---- that's the first day. It all happened in one single day. ------------- Other than that, I didn't see anything wrong with what he stated. He wasn't making a claim of any date being the actual rapture date. He even mentioned the year 2028 AD. That would be 2000 years after Christ began his ministry, or maybe 2000 years after his death/resurrection. I still think the 2nd advent will be closer to 2034 AD due to Stephen being stoned, which would be the full rejection of the Holy Spirit. He entered in the selfsame day the waters were upon the earth. Verse 10-12 makes it clear. Not 7 days before; which was the command to prepare the ark for receiving the unclean and clean. With the logic we enter 7 days before, that would mean you rapture 7 years before a 7 year tribulation. That’s 14 year total! Since you must enter 7 before it starts. Bad logic and it doesn’t follow through with most commentaries No. Genesis 7:1-4 1 "And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; ".........."4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights;" Genesis 7:13 "In the selfsame day entered Noah"...........17..."the Lord shut him in." God ordered Noah on the boat, and then in the same day he shut the door. Then they waited inside the ark, with the door shut, for the 7 days to complete for the rain/wrath to start. So Rapture first, then a period of time (around 7 years) waiting hidden away for "wrath" to begin. Wrath comes at the very end of 7 years per 6th Seal of Rev 6. ---------- The "yet seven days" could mean that after this day, seven more days... so 8 days total or it means a total of 7 days including the day they boarded the ark. To be safe, I would say it's within a 7 day period of time, not 8 day period of time. I would prefer 8 days, but... what's another year between friends. ----------- Look at Matthew 24 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. They went into the ark and waited. |
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Post by venge on Nov 21, 2021 8:06:19 GMT -6
I’m sorry, but that’s not accurate. For one, you are missing the context. Two - you are rapturing 14 years early. There is no logic in it
Also, the Matthew text you quoted refers to “they” knew not. Not Noah.
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