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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 9:30:57 GMT -6
This would give ample opportunity for a harpazo after 40 days (9/30-10/15). The only struggle I have with this is the scripture: 1 Corinthians 15:52 52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
It would seem that it would have to be on Sept 21/22. Believers could already be gone - but nations could still repent - allowing them to have blessings during the 1st 3 1/2 years and possibly the time leading up to the beginning of the Tribulation. What I see is that although the US has been 'brokering' the agreement (and subject to judgment because of it); the US would pull out of the brokering(maybe the deal would be taken over by France) and the US would be given a reprieve for 7 years(?)
Yes, because we have loved ones here, if America would repent it will be BETTER for the inhabitants left behind. That is why I am currently bittersweet in my heart... I don't WANT anything to happen to America, but I DO want America to wake up while they have time(maybe during the 40 days!). So I pray God will be doing something to get their attention in a big way, while I try to be ready and unmoved, knowing that HE knows JUST WHAT IT TAKES to get their attention - and I must be willing to endure that too, if I love them. That could be 40 days of war/natural disasters.
Just thinking out loud. I keep having to remind myself that there is a difference between judgment of individuals and of nations. They are handled separately.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 9:43:18 GMT -6
Yardstick - I think you said that, not Beloved.
sorry to quote that wrong. I'm not good a IT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 10:39:10 GMT -6
Just remember: it's more like this: only the last couple hours of the 21'st (after sunset), followed by the whole day on the 22'nd, and finally until sunset on the 23'rd, when the Sign of the Woman becomes complete. In other words, as Trumpets ends, the Sign forms. God's Roadmap to the End says that it could represent one day going to the next, one year going to the next, and one dispensation going to the next. Cool, huh?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 11:09:28 GMT -6
Wow ! A tri-event!
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 18, 2017 11:30:26 GMT -6
Sort of like the odometer in your car turning over to 100,000.0 miles. It is the end of each thing and the beginning of the next. The end of the age. Gary, I want a visual!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 12:32:51 GMT -6
Well, here's GRTTE's visual.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 13:32:47 GMT -6
Cool, I like that!
One stump for me. I am thinking that the signing of the covenant starts the next dispensation because it starts the Tribulation. So an agreement would have to be signed on Sept. 24 (?)
I'm feeling that either something is going to happen and need a covenant for peace starting 9/24, and finalizing around 10/12 or The International Day of Peace , celebrated on September 21, 2017/ known as the World Peace Day - an agreement may be signed at its completion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 13:37:59 GMT -6
Well, the Church Age ends. There is no more eternal salvation, etc.. So, technically, the dispensation has changed... it's just in a transitional period.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 13:51:16 GMT -6
I can go with that!
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Post by yardstick on Jul 18, 2017 22:01:38 GMT -6
Yardstick - I think you said that, not Beloved. sorry to quote that wrong. I'm not good a IT Yep! it was me! No worries! It was a hypothesis that there is a potential window for the harpazo then. My personal opinion is to consider the statistical probabilities of each day from August 21 to December 28. There is at least some probability that any day in that window could be the day, but taking the ideal of a normal distribution curve, there is a higher probability of the window being between 9/9 and 10/18 and the highest probability of the window being between 9/20-9/23. I use 'probability' to indicate the likelihood of an event occurring, since we cannot be certain.
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Post by lookuptim on Jul 21, 2017 0:11:55 GMT -6
I believe the eclipse is for believers as much as it is for non-believers in America. Those who have conformed to the pattern of this world, those who have soiled their clothing as Jesus wrote in Revelation to Sardis, they need to wake up. Friends and family, one thing Jesus has been showing me, and you will probably attest to this, the whole WORLD is asleep. Deep sleep. Particularly the U.S., with as much as it possesses in material wealth (see Laodiceans? playing the Christian angle) and has accumulated in its pomp and arrogance in terms of its allure and self-entitlement. The love of many has grown cold, people have become lovers of selves, and it is seeped into the church, into those who are weak and easily manipulated by being man-pleasers rather than God-pleasers! If something happens, which I have very strong suspicion it does (more on that later, I am no one special, just a messenger), it will definitely, at least partly, be a warning to members of the body who are lacking in their fellowship and sincerity with Christ and each other.
As I was studying Rev 12 the first night I came upon it, I read into the next few chapters, and this practically popped out in 3D: Rev 16:15 (“Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes, so that he will not walk about naked and men will not see his shame.”) Look at what Jesus says parenthetically! Just, unbelievable. In the middle of all the judgment that comes later! It's almost as if He's saying, "Are you still reading? Because you have continued to read on (into the tribulation stage), here is my message to you (and the church)!"
I have a lot more to say on that. Phew! God is real folks, may He bless all of you brothers and sisters and fellow watch-men and -women.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 5:49:06 GMT -6
Welcome Lookuptim! Totally agree that people are asleep! Everywhere. God told us they would be😔.
I can see how a God could speak to you about it. We can see so much of his heart/design in the scriptures that we didn't before. But I admit I am cautioned about applying that that verse means into the tribulation, regarding the church. If you look at the word 'thief' you will see it appear only after the cross 6x. Each time it is referencing the day of the Lord . Especially to the issues that the day of the Lord would not arrive like a thief in the night to those who been watching. I'm not convinced that I am saying that believers would be in the Tribulation. I think that is referring specifically to the Jewish people once tribulation begins. The Bible mentions several times(!) in the Old Testament and Matthew Mark and Luke and John- thief.
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Post by kjs on Jul 21, 2017 8:50:17 GMT -6
Cool, I like that! One stump for me. I am thinking that the signing of the covenant starts the next dispensation because it starts the Tribulation. So an agreement would have to be signed on Sept. 24 (?) I'm feeling that either something is going to happen and need a covenant for peace starting 9/24, and finalizing around 10/12 or The International Day of Peace , celebrated on September 21, 2017/ known as the World Peace Day - an agreement may be signed at its completion. I believe each "dispensation period" -- a slow fade out and a slow fade in portion to it. In Acts 21:18-30 -- we see the Apostle Paul (based upon how it reads -- "roped into honoring") take a vow with several other men (and paying for everyone) for their cleaning ceremony.... So here we have the Apostle to the Gentiles (several years down the road from Pentecost) still performing some rituals set aside from the time of Moses (or as the passage reads -- Moses Law) The point, trying to make here -- it does not appear to ME -- that the start and the stop of dispensation period -- is not one stops and the others starts immediately.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 9:48:08 GMT -6
Yes when I think about the silence for half an hour, I have often wondered if there isn't a period of time that that happens, like the 15 days someone mentioned on another thread(?). Thx kjs
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 10:36:54 GMT -6
But in the same token the 70 weeks began at the rebuilding of Jerusalem which was a definite event. So I'm not sure why I would doubt that it is possible that the breaks between each period of weeks would not start on a specific event.
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