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Post by disciple4life on Sept 28, 2021 17:23:58 GMT -6
boymaker3, Yes, with 2 **asterisks and a caveat.🤣 *Yes, this year according to several watchmen and well-known Messianic Jewish teachers, but this is with the assumption that according to the mazeroth, astronomical allignments, one of these being the Revelation 12 sign, and there are about 4 to 6 specific criteria [the sun at the head of Virgo and the moon at her feet and several other planets that all have to be in place to make the crown] this unique allignment was not in place and it is in October and this the basis for saying that true Feast of Trumpets is October 6th and 7th this year. Whew. A lot of moving parts. Aside from whether one thinks the Revelation 12 sign is a major piece, or whether they think the Jewish calendar is off/behind or not, the day counts work out to the exact day for three feasts ,one at the beginning, the second one matches perfectly with the 1335 day count landing on Shavuot/ Pentecost near the mid point, and the total sum of the 2250 (1260 days and 1290 day counts from Daniel and Revelation) falling exactly to the day on Day of Atonement/ Yom Teruah at the end of the 7 prophetic year tribulation. The fact is that these number counts don't work most years, in itself is what makes this so incredible. (I don't mean that three day counts usually dont work, its that in most years, you don't even get the first and last day to match.) ** I'm not saying the midpoint is at Pentecost- in fact I lean that it's not. I'm not dogmatic but I'm not sure how much Daniel's prophecy about the Abomination being in the middle- is that the exact half of 2550 days, or is it Passover which is the time when many think he would defile the temple. A lamb is sacrificed at Passover and many see this as the occasion because it's one of three Pilgrimage feasts when millions are in Jerusalem. *** No, According to Mark Biltz -- it's completely not this year- doesn't matter if the calendar is off or not or if anyone could even prove it, because its a Schmita year-the last of 7 and Daniel's 70th week IS a 7 year Schmita cycle. He shocked about 30,000 subscribers when he told them that Daniel was Jewish 🤣🤯. Who knew? !! The 7 year Time of Jacob's trouble starts on the first year of the 7 year cycle. I checked all the day counts for this year ( starting from Oct, and all the day counts starting next year at Feast of Trumpets which is September 25th 2022, if I remember correctly. I haven't checked beyond that. **Mark Biltz showed way beyond a shadow of a doubt with scripture after scripture after scripture that Christ was born at Feast of booths and this puts the conception at Hannukah. Mind-numbing when you think about this in terms of identical "bookends" - started his 1st advent at Tabernacles/Sukkot and the ends the 2nd Advent, the end of the 1000 year Sabbath of Human history with Tabernacles. Just wow!! 🥳🤯
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Post by boraddict on Sept 28, 2021 18:08:02 GMT -6
disciple4life, why would anyone be shocked at Daniel being Jewish? You said: "*** According to Mark Biltz.... He shocked about 30,000 subscribers when he told them that Daniel was Jewish 🤣"
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 28, 2021 19:48:24 GMT -6
Yes, Bora- you're exactly right. The slapstick humor doesn't come through in typed format.😉 For me and you and 60 or so of the watchers here,it's obvious, but it's actually strange that though so many people know subconsciously that he (and every writer of the entire Bible except Luke) was Jewish, most people don't think about looking at the cultural context which sheds a lot of light and deeper meaning on the passage, and in this case, the point about Daniel's 70 weeks are 70 Schmita cycles. [br Blessings
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Post by yardstick on Sept 28, 2021 19:55:26 GMT -6
boymaker3 , Yes, with 2 **asterisks and a caveat.🤣 *Yes, this year according to several watchmen and well-known Messianic Jewish teachers, but this is with the assumption that according to the mazeroth, astronomical allignments, one of these being the Revelation 12 sign, and there are about 4 to 6 specific criteria [the sun at the head of Virgo and the moon at her feet and several other planets that all have to be in place to make the crown] this unique allignment was not in place and it is in October and this the basis for saying that true Feast of Trumpets is October 6th and 7th this year. Whew. A lot of moving parts. Aside from whether one thinks the Revelation 12 sign is a major piece, or whether they think the Jewish calendar is off/behind or not, the day counts work out to the exact day for three feasts ,one at the beginning, the second one matches perfectly with the 1335 day count landing on Shavuot/ Pentecost near the mid point, and the total sum of the 2250 [2550] (1260 days and 1290 day counts from Daniel and Revelation) falling exactly to the day on Day of Atonement/ Yom Teruah at the end of the 7 prophetic year tribulation. The fact is that these number counts don't work most years, in itself is what makes this so incredible. (I don't mean that three day counts usually dont work, its that in most years, you don't even get the first and last day to match.) ** I'm not saying the midpoint is at Pentecost- in fact I lean that it's not. I'm not dogmatic but I'm not sure how much Daniel's prophecy about the Abomination being in the middle- is that the exact half of 2550 days, or is it Passover which is the time when many think he would defile the temple. A lamb is sacrificed at Passover and many see this as the occasion because it's one of three Pilgrimage feasts when millions are in Jerusalem. *** No, According to Mark Biltz -- it's completely not this year- doesn't matter if the calendar is off or not or if anyone could even prove it, because its a Schmita year-the last of 7 and Daniel's 70th week IS a 7 year Schmita cycle. He shocked about 30,000 subscribers when he told them that Daniel was Jewish 🤣🤯. Who knew? !! The 7 year Time of Jacob's trouble starts on the first year of the 7 year cycle. I checked all the day counts for this year ( starting from Oct, and all the day counts starting next year at Feast of Trumpets which is September 25th 2022, if I remember correctly. I haven't checked beyond that. **Mark Biltz showed way beyond a shadow of a doubt with scripture after scripture after scripture that Christ was born at Feast of booths and this puts the conception at Hannukah. Mind-numbing when you think about this in terms of identical "bookends" - started his 1st advent at Tabernacles/Sukkot and the ends the 2nd Advent, the end of the 1000 year Sabbath of Human history with Tabernacles. Just wow!! 🥳🤯 So where does that put the 1260 or 1290 day start/end window (the middle)? (in Gregorian, please! Though it would be cool to hear the jewish date as well) oh, and the odds are 1/[365] 3 for any specific year multiplied times 1/[the number of possible years it could have happened from -4000AD (or so) til now]. (However many Schmita years qualified).
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Post by Natalie on Sept 28, 2021 20:17:54 GMT -6
disciple4life, What's the reasoning for the 1335 starting from the beginning? Theories I have seen have that count starting from the midpoint...so overlapping the "times, time, and half time" of the last 3.5 years.
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 29, 2021 8:33:25 GMT -6
@natalie, Natalie , as for the different theories related to this number, I don't think I've heard any. Seems like I remember hearing something about this being in the 2nd half, but I don't have a reason or even a theory that it belongs in the first half. I had seen it on a chart somewhere, and I thought i would see how if it fits-falls on a feast day. And what do you know, it did. yardstick ,I used Hebcal.com and put in the dates for next year. Feast of Trumpets/ Yom Teruah is Sept 26th and 27th, as I recall. (It might be 25th and 26th.) I added the two day counts for the 3 1/2 years -(prophetic years) from Daniel and Revelation, 1260 days and 1290 days which is 2550 days or 7 prophetic years. Then I used dateandtime.com and added 2550 days to Sept 26th 2022/ feast of Trumpets and it falls exactly on Day of Atonement/ Yom Kippur, Sept 19, 2029. When i plugged in 1335 days, and added that to Feast of Trumpets 2022, Sept 26th, it lands on Pentecost 2026. Hope that is helpful to everyone.
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Post by mike on Sept 29, 2021 9:02:44 GMT -6
disciple4life Shouldnt these read 2550? Typo my friend? Or did you mean 2520 (1260+1260)?
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 29, 2021 9:35:49 GMT -6
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Post by yardstick on Sept 29, 2021 19:30:27 GMT -6
@natalie, Natalie , as for the different theories related to this number, I don't think I've heard any. Seems like I remember hearing something about this being in the 2nd half, but I don't have a reason or even a theory that it belongs in the first half. I had seen it on a chart somewhere, and I thought i would see how if it fits-falls on a feast day. And what do you know, it did. yardstick ,I used Hebcal.com and put in the dates for next year. Feast of Trumpets/ Yom Teruah is Sept 26th and 27th, as I recall. (It might be 25th and 26th.) I added the two day counts for the 3 1/2 years -(prophetic years) from Daniel and Revelation, 1260 days and 1290 days which is 2550 days or 7 prophetic years. Then I used dateandtime.com and added 2550 days to Sept 26th 2022/ feast of Trumpets and it falls exactly on Day of Atonement/ Yom Kippur, Sept 19, 2029. When i plugged in 1335 days, and added that to Feast of Trumpets 2022, Sept 26th, it lands on Pentecost 2026. Hope that is helpful to everyone. Well, i was asking about what date you got for the 1260 days after sept 26/27, 2022?
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Post by yardstick on Sept 29, 2021 19:31:12 GMT -6
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 29, 2021 20:19:35 GMT -6
@natalie, Natalie , as for the different theories related to this number, I don't think I've heard any. Seems like I remember hearing something about this being in the 2nd half, but I don't have a reason or even a theory that it belongs in the first half. I had seen it on a chart somewhere, and I thought i would see how if it fits-falls on a feast day. And what do you know, it did. yardstick ,I used Hebcal.com and put in the dates for next year. Feast of Trumpets/ Yom Teruah is Sept 26th and 27th, as I recall. (It might be 25th and 26th.) I added the two day counts for the 3 1/2 years -(prophetic years) from Daniel and Revelation, 1260 days and 1290 days which is 2550 days or 7 prophetic years. Then I used dateandtime.com www.Timeanddate.com and added 2550 days to Sept 26th 2022/ feast of Trumpets and it falls exactly on Day of Atonement/ Yom Kippur, Sept 19, 2029. When i plugged in 1335 days, and added that to Feast of Trumpets 2022, Sept 26th, it lands on Pentecost 2026. Hope that is helpful to everyone. Well, i was asking about what date you got for the 1260 days after sept 26/27, 2022? I wrote the wrong website above -- It should be www.timeanddate.com . When i put 1260 days into the date calculator - going from Feast of Trumpets Sept 26, 2022, it falls on March 09, 2026, w hich is nothing - it's 3 and a 1/2 prophetic years but the date it falls on is nothing significant, - ie, it's not a feast day. On the other hand- get this, when you add 1290 days, to the same date, starting from Feast of Trumpets, Sept 26, 2022, it falls on April 08, which is the week of Passover. This is huge considering that many scholars, (even ones that don't believe that the end times events fall on feast days,) see Passover as a likely day for the Abomination of Desolation, due to the fact that the lamb is sacrificed on this day, and the AC makes the sacrifices cease. Passover is 14th of Nissan, which is always a full moon, and then the feast of unleavened bread is 7 days, and these two feasts are sandwiched back to back, and so both feasts are considered Passover. Passover proper is April 1, and Unleavened bread is April 2, and on Hebcal and others, - it lists Passover as going from Sundown April 1st to Sundown April 9th.
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 30, 2021 8:27:00 GMT -6
Hello friends, this just jumped out at me. Wonder how many others as well? prayvotestand.org/?stlid=9709316&utm_source=SlickText&utm_medium=SMS&utm_campaign=PVS092921+-+ActiveIt's a "Pray, Vote, Stand" summit. I didn't watch the whole thing yet, but I know one of the speakers is Jack Hibbs. I'm certain that the dates didn't escape his notice. I just think it would be really cool to have -the rapture happen on the wedding of the Messiah -the resurrection happens at the Last Trumpet, when Jews everywhere understand is the Great resurrection, - the church is caught up when the Great Dracon meteor shower happens, -we are all caught up and concealed on the "hidden day" - and on the "Pray,Vote, Stand, Fly" summit. 🤣🤯 * It would be beyond amazing, but I'm looking at Feast of Trumpets next September.
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Post by Natalie on Sept 30, 2021 12:29:12 GMT -6
disciple4life,if I did it right... Oct 7 plus 1290 also lands at Passover 2025. Guess I am not ready to give up on this year yet (even though I am not convinced FOT was wrong)
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Post by mike on Oct 1, 2021 8:44:13 GMT -6
disciple4life NatalieCurious - if the calendar is off how does that affect the previous understandings of certain astronomical alignments like the blood moons in 2014/2015 that fell on Passover & Sukkot and the Great Sign? Is the calendar off one month in this year only due to a leap month? Or would the calendar be off altogether which would throw these astronomical events out of sorts
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Post by inaweofhim on Oct 1, 2021 8:57:29 GMT -6
disciple4life Natalie Curious - if the calendar is off how does that affect the previous understandings of certain astronomical alignments like the blood moons in 2014/2015 that fell on Passover & Sukkot and the Great Sign? Is the calendar off one month in this year only due to a leap month? Or would the calendar be off altogether which would throw these astronomical events out of sorts Mike, I was wondering the same exact thing!
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