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Post by firefrorefiddle on Mar 13, 2020 10:57:08 GMT -6
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Post by matthew2423 on Mar 13, 2020 12:14:48 GMT -6
firefrorefiddle, Hello, and welcome! Honestly, with this virus wreaking havoc on the entire world, I’ve been wondering if this will prepare the way for the Antichrist. That some currently unknown politician will announce to the world that he has a cure for the Coronavirus and will come to power in a country that’s hard-hit by the virus, like Italy or China. I hope it doesn’t happen so that more of the world has an opportunity to come to Christ, but it very well could. I hope that we are out of here before that happens, if that’s the case.
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Post by Natalie on Mar 13, 2020 12:37:57 GMT -6
My husband and I were talking this morning. I had wondered if this would be what does it, and he said something to the effect of preparing for the One World Gov't. My thoughts were the breaking of the US so that they would be ready to accept a global leadership. It's not the virus itself, but it's the reaction to it. He thinks that panic will subside, the stockmarket shoots back up, and the virus dies out (or it might reoccur every year but we are able to deal with it).
I just see everything continue to pile up. A line my pastor used several weeks ago we are "hurtling towards the Kingdom." What if the rapture of the church happens during all this? The two together could surely do it? People are ready.
I saw a comment earlier today and my thought was "nations in perplexity". It's from Luke 21:25 and most translations pair it with the roaring of the sea and rolling waves, but not all of them do. Nations certainly are distressed and perplexed.
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Post by venge on Mar 13, 2020 14:39:23 GMT -6
I had thought how this has similarities to Spanish flu. Not as a biological virus, but it’s effect world wide. It came after war and leaned into the roaring twenties. Prosperity came after this and lead into the Great Depression and world war 2. Does history repeat itself?
The last time we closed schools US wide was the 1918 Spanish flu.
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Post by neural on Mar 13, 2020 15:47:45 GMT -6
I think it's valid that "this could be it", but only in that the deceiver's primary plan is to keep trying over and over and over until it works. As society degrades and drifts further away from God, the more likely the devil will see his plan move forward.
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Post by disciple4life on Mar 13, 2020 20:32:54 GMT -6
Hello Fire, Is the quote in the box the same thing as the link? I just read the box. From that I didn't get that she hates Christians- but tourists and foreigners. Doesn't sound like the Messiah i know. Disciple4Life |
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Mar 13, 2020 22:11:03 GMT -6
disciple4life, I read thru part of the link then had to stop because it was very disturbing to me to read the comments. Read thru more than just one or two of them...
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Post by Natalie on Mar 14, 2020 8:18:43 GMT -6
firefrorefiddle, "Messianic" usually means she would be a believer in Jesus as Messiah. So, Messianic Jews would not hate Christians. (I think that is what led to D4L's comment) I take it that this lady is looking for Messiah.
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Post by disciple4life on Mar 14, 2020 8:47:23 GMT -6
Hello Fire,
I don't count myself as a prophecy expert - just another fellow watchman on the wall, with so many others, and we are happy that you found this community. ;-) I'm your Scots-Irish-French-Jewish-American brother in Tennessee.
Natalie just posted , and she said it well. ;-) barbiosheepgirl 's last post, - I think from today, March 15th, is right on. I read at least a dozen posts and comments by her and replies from others. It was indeed very disturbing. I don't mean this in a harsh way, or hostile, firefrorefiddle, but I think you somehow mistook her for a "Messianic Jew". What made you come to this conclusion? I'm only taking a stab at it, but I think that her reference in the title to "this being Messianic" misled you.
There is no mention anywhere, [by her or any of the people who reply ] to Yeshua. or Y'shua a common practice among completed Jews, or those who are 100% Jewish, but have accepted Jesus as Messiah.
***It should be noted that the overwhelming majority neither use or like the term Christian, 1. because of the connections to the Catholic church, and 2. because it can further divide them from the Jewish friends and family they are trying to love. 
So, I don't want to derail the thread at all, but I would be remiss if I didn't point out that she had 2 huge, false assumptions in her thread. 1. She simply cited the numbers of people returning to different countries, and she makes a very juvenile error and assumes that all the people with Polish Passports, are ethnic Poles. I for one, lived there 13 years, and speak Polish and had a Polish residency card, but I'm a mix of 6 different races. Then, just think about the US. Our entire country was founded on immigrants - To be American is to be a mixture of different races, unless you are Native American and then you could be Cherokee, or Navajo, or Eskimo, or Souix, etc.
2. In her blog, - right off the bat, in her opening sentence, it just reeks with disdain for those she perceives as "Foreigners" and then she rejoices and says that Purim, or Passover will be celebrated without Tourism. Israel depends heavily on the tourism of millions of Christians, and Catholics and Jews from all over the world, who visit for different reasons, but don't have Israeli passports, or don't live there. She also doesn't even factor in 2 very important points - 1. that in the thousands of people who are leaving, thousands of these from USA, Poland, Holland, Spain, Germany, Russia, etc, are in fact Jewish, and many more have Jewish roots, like myself. and 2. The source doesn't say that they are leaving forever, or for how long. Some are Jews from Poland, going for their month long vacation in Croatia. Some are Jewish Americans leaving to stay for the summer in NY or Florida and in this huge number, some of these were in fact Jews from all over the world, coming to Israel as a Pilgrimage - Aliya, but for some reason - maybe spouse and aging parents in Spain, or a job and children in school in USA, etc etc - they could not stay.
I also saw in her blog, [not sure if it was she or another commenter], but it jumped out - the notion that God was sparing the Jews of Judgement. I proudly love and support Israel and her people, but scripture tells a very clear and different story, and this is another big red flag, that she is not Messianic Jew. She's Jewish. Period. The Tribulation is the Time of Jacob's Trouble, - Not the time of Trevor's Trouble, or Brad's Trouble. It is during this time, that the eyes /hearts of the Jewish people will be opened to the true Messiah.
The way he opens the eyes of the Jews, is that He provokes them to jealousy, when He returns on a Jewish Feast, long forgotten and ignored by the Gentile church, and takes a Gentile Bride, and wakes them out of their blindness with 144,000 Jewish witnesses. Who better to help connect the dots. Maranatha,
Disciple4life.
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Post by firefrorefiddle on Mar 14, 2020 9:26:38 GMT -6
Sorry, I really used the wrong term, "messianic", when I really meant "messiah awaiting", or perhaps "ultra-zionist". I think I was taken off track by her own blog post title, "Do you realize how _messianic_ this is?".
Of course, these people see us as idolaters and their writings are nothing but disturbing. Of course, they are waiting for messiah and will get Anti-Christ.
However, I consider it an interesting fact, if you think about it... they are really expecting /geula/ *right now* and think it a miracle that Got evicts all non-Jews from the land right in time for this passover. Which really happened, somehow.
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Post by disciple4life on Mar 14, 2020 9:35:51 GMT -6
Sorry, I really used the wrong term, "messianic", when I really meant "messiah awaiting", or perhaps "ultra-zionist". I think I was taken off track by her own blog post title, "Do you realize how _messianic_ this is?". Of course, these people see us as idolaters and their writings are nothing but disturbing. Of course, they are waiting for messiah and will get Anti-Christ. However, I consider it an interesting fact, if you think about it... they are really expecting /geula/ *right now* and think it a miracle that Got evicts all non-Jews from the land right in time for this passover. Which really happened, somehow. Yeah, I know what you mean, my brother. ;-) The title and blog was bizarre. I'm not sure what geula is. ?? Is that a typo, or a Jewish term, or something else. ??
I don't think for a moment that God evicts all Non-Jews from the land, nor will He.
In fact my point was that thousands of those who left - she called "foreigners" when in fact thousands of these ARE Jew, and millions of Arabs and Gentiles are still there. Further, some are simply leaving for summer vacation and returning, and no evidence to even suggest what percentage of these leaving is remotely related to coronavirus, or something totally different.
It's more risky to travel -[recirulated air in a plane for 4-12 hours] than to simply stay put and avoid large public gatherings. ;-)
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Post by uscgvet on Mar 14, 2020 11:24:05 GMT -6
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Post by neural on Mar 14, 2020 20:45:00 GMT -6
Recent events and comments people have made bring to mind a scene from and old movie called UHF.
In the scene, a blind man is sitting on a park bench type seat holding an unsolved Rubik's Cube. He turns part of the cube, then motions with the cube towards a homeless man sitting next to him and asks "Is this it?"
"Nope" replies the homeless man. So the Blind man turns another side on the cube, and repeats his question. The scene implies that this continues on and on.
I believe that this illustrates well how the devil has been working his own agenda throughout history. He cannot see how God has things planned, and so is left randomly trying different things to see what works.
Far from completely blind, the devil certainly knows some things, and I do believe that his Rubik's cube is nearly solved, however, it is not yet solved. And what we are going through right now may be the final solution for the puzzle, but it may not be as well.
Prophecy is given to us so that when it is fulfilled it will strengthen our belief, not so that we can know the future in exact terms.
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Post by matthew2423 on Mar 16, 2020 16:06:27 GMT -6
Recent events and comments people have made bring to mind a scene from and old movie called UHF. In the scene, a blind man is sitting on a park bench type seat holding an unsolved Rubik's Cube. He turns part of the cube, then motions with the cube towards a homeless man sitting next to him and asks "Is this it?" "Nope" replies the homeless man. So the Blind man turns another side on the cube, and repeats his question. The scene implies that this continues on and on. I believe that this illustrates well how the devil has been working his own agenda throughout history. He cannot see how God has things planned, and so is left randomly trying different things to see what works. Far from completely blind, the devil certainly knows some things, and I do believe that his Rubik's cube is nearly solved, however, it is not yet solved. And what we are going through right now may be the final solution for the puzzle, but it may not be as well. Prophecy is given to us so that when it is fulfilled it will strengthen our belief, not so that we can know the future in exact terms. Neural, I definitely agree that this could be Satan’s final solution, but it also could not be. I think only the next couple of days or weeks will tell for sure. I saw Pastor Rich’s comments on the “Footsteps of the Messiah” article with his thoughts about a possible time for the Rapture during the evening of April 3rd and into April 4th, depending on a possible global lockdown March 27th into March 28th. I think that could definitely be possible. I can just imagine us disappearing into Heaven that night, then people not noticing until the lockdown being lifted. I can imagine the fears of all people in the world realizing that family and friends are now mysteriously gone. I can see the Antichrist being revealed, coming onto the scene saying that he has a solution to the Coronavirus and a possible explanation to the disappearances (with the main theory being alien abduction), but I also think that an explanation could be that the disappearances are due to Coronavirus as well, and that the people were “cured” by disappearing. This could very well ease the fears of the people, as far as the raptured being “cured” of the virus, but the lies would only continue, and while the Antichrist lies to the world, things will become like a horror movie, very very quick... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 17:58:23 GMT -6
I'll tell you something, I have seen a lot of hate on social media, and in the news media, for those who support Trump during this trial. People calling for half the population to contract this virus. People offering to bring it to Trump rallies. It's twisted and evil. Many will be delighted when we go. Absolutely tickled that they don't have to justify abortion one more time.
I just posted a story (MOTB) about Bill Gates creating an invisible tattoo to keep records of our vax shots. I bet anything it will be mandatory now that the WuTangFlu has terrified the world.
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