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Post by disciple4life on Dec 7, 2020 12:19:15 GMT -6
Thanks, Bernie!. Two thoughts come to mind immediately. Not sure which is scarier. 😱
One is a used car dealer in sunglasses who keeps telling you that he's honest.
The other is that these are the same government & media that told us Agent Orange was safe, nonstop Russia hysteria for 4 years and that massive lockdowns will help and that this is the most honest election in history, and "no evidence" of fraud. 🤯😖
It's like straight out of Orwell's 1984.
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Post by mike on Dec 7, 2020 12:59:58 GMT -6
Continuing the dialogue on this virus in comparison to some of the other issues our world faces. As a critical thinker I continue to ask myself - "Why the urgency to stop this (corona), when there are other far more dangerous issues to tackle?" Statistically the global death toll associated/attributed to SARS-COV2 is at 1,546,195 out of 67,685,388 cases ( link). Looking further at the same page the death rate continues to decrease as cases are confirmed as closed. It is now at 3% based on closed cases. Currently the 7 day moving average is 610,000 cases with 10,000 deaths. Please dont misunderstand I am not trying to downplay anyone getting sick with this nor dying. As somewhat of an numeric and data analyst, we cant look at cases and equate them to deaths as the data continues to pour in showing more people recovering than earlier in the year. This simply the law of numbers, which is showing that this is not quite what we've been told. The numbers I list here earlier (610k & 10k) do not equate to each other. We cannot assume that of the 610k, 10k will pass from the virus. If we did the number would be 1.6% Truly the data is showing over 19 million current cases globally, but of those only 105 considered serious or critical. This is 0.5% - why is this a pandemic, in need for a rushed vaccine with mandated lockdowns globally? I am missing something (rhetorical). Now when I look at other issues the world should be trying to solve...I digress one second - the world issue is SIN and the solution is JESUS! On the same worldometer site one can find things like this: 39.8 million abortions this year! No outcry on public health for innocent babies who have no say is there!? Why cant we stop this? Why is this my body my choice...I could go on When I began writing this the amount of cigarettes smoked this year was 8,65x,xxx,xxx (this note took me about 15 minutes to write before I clicked reply I added this new total was 8,837,xxx,xxx) 200,000,000 cigarettes smoked in about 15-20 minutes worldwide. 4,677,xxx deaths caused by smoking this year - something pretty easily preventable. STOP SELLING CIGARETTES!!! 2,340,xxx deaths caused by alcohol this year - another fairly obvious piece where we can help public health 1,003,xxx suicides this year $374 BILLION spent on illegal drugs this year - wow The numbers above show that there are many crises in the world that could use much more attention than coronavirus. Just look at the numbers folks, its pretty incredible what is driving this pandemic. |
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Post by sog on Dec 7, 2020 14:58:34 GMT -6
So the elites have always known, and now publicly admit, what they are up against in trying to get sheeple to take the vaccine. Christians (mainly). They aren't getting the "buy in" they had hoped for with this plandemic. And now they have to postpone the "Great Reset" ( www.weforum.org/great-reset ) in order, imho, to have more time to put the pressure on. So now we have to wait for summer to see what is going to be unleashed on the world. Good article that bernie posted in the shoutbox: The Great Reset and Klaus Schwab thejewishvoice.com/2020/12/the-great-reset-and-klaus-schwab/From link - The topic for the 2021 Davos conference, which has been postponed from January to the summer, is, naturally, the “Great Reset” and the expedient arrival of the pandemic. And here WEF looking beyond Davos for 2021 summit www.reuters.com/article/us-davos-meeting-2021/wef-looking-beyond-davos-for-2021-summit-papers-idUSKCN26D1P7From link - The WEF said last month the summit had been called off for the normal January slot due to the coronavirus pandemic, with plans to reschedule the event to early next summer. |
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Post by mike on Dec 8, 2020 11:58:03 GMT -6
Just to update my previous post. The new total deaths caused by smoking this year is now 4,691,xxx - an increase of 23,000 in one day. No outcry, no ban on cigarettes, their retailer, manufacturers or otherwise. Just sayin
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Post by disciple4life on Dec 8, 2020 19:31:46 GMT -6
disciple4life , mike , sog , bernie , Natalie , Beloved , nana , @reepicheep , @gary, joe , yardstick , boraddict , barbiosheepgirl , stormyknight , venge , inaweofhim , Joecool , whatif , others. Hello Fellow watchmen, This is a very compelling video - from licensed medical doctors all over the world, - Belgium, UK, USA, Norway, Ireland, Sweden, the Netherlands, Poland, Germany, and other countries. The doctors represent multiple fields of medical practice and include immunologists, pharmacists, neurologists, psychiatrists, and other doctors - some with over 40 years experience. This has nothing at all to do with me, or what ever you feel about this virus, and this vaccine, or agreeing with me -- the point is the fact that this material is being censored by Big Tech and Big Media, and the doctors are being threatened for simply telling the truth. brandnewtube.com/watch/ask-the-experts-covid-19-vaccine-now-banned-on-youtube-and-facebook_qIsNohSIeSgfz2J.htmlThe bigger issue is - why is the Media and Big Tech, so intent on censoring information - instead of letting people do their own research and make their own informed decisions. I raised my children in what was Post-WW II Poland, former Nazi Germany, and this is NOT hyperbole. This is the kind of censorship that you read n Nazi Germany and communist Russia, where the Government decides what people can read or hear. This is brand new technology, and because of the media-induced hysteria, there was a huge rush to make a vaccine, and the normal animal trial studies were bypassed, and cancelled, because the early testing on animals had harmful effects on the animals. Every rational person - should ask - if this is really safe, then why do Big Pharmaceutical companies have "100% total liability protection from lawsuits" related to side-effects?? Would you buy a car, or use a product on your family, knowing that they could be harmed or worse, and you had absolutely no recourse whatsoever.? Of course not. The information is very very shocking and disturbing. Even worse than this information confirmed by doctors from around the world, is that our government is allowing this censorship, and no one can answer the question of "Why"?? Why are they so afraid that they intimidate doctors, and some are even fired, for telling the truth?? You can also find it on Bitchute. "The question on everyone's mind." (alternate title) "Ask the experts Covid 19 vaccine" www.bitchute.com/video/8QtFmIFJnUbh/ Disciple4life
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Post by yardstick on Dec 8, 2020 19:52:03 GMT -6
So the elites have always known, and now publicly admit, what they are up against in trying to get sheeple to take the vaccine. Christians (mainly). They aren't getting the "buy in" they had hoped for with this plandemic. And now they have to postpone the "Great Reset" ( www.weforum.org/great-reset ) in order, imho, to have more time to put the pressure on. So now we have to wait for summer to see what is going to be unleashed on the world. Good article that bernie posted in the shoutbox: The Great Reset and Klaus Schwab thejewishvoice.com/2020/12/the-great-reset-and-klaus-schwab/From link - The topic for the 2021 Davos conference, which has been postponed from January to the summer, is, naturally, the “Great Reset” and the expedient arrival of the pandemic. And here WEF looking beyond Davos for 2021 summit www.reuters.com/article/us-davos-meeting-2021/wef-looking-beyond-davos-for-2021-summit-papers-idUSKCN26D1P7From link - The WEF said last month the summit had been called off for the normal January slot due to the coronavirus pandemic, with plans to reschedule the event to early next summer. Just in time for a possible FoT harpazo, maybe... |
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Dec 8, 2020 22:35:08 GMT -6
I was shared a post about the Astrazenica covid vacc as being made from 14 week aborted fetal material to make the modified DNA/RNA using the lung tissue from such sources. THIS is what I believe many fear in this particular vaccine push. There is an ethical thing behind the covid vaccine regarding the use of aborted material for manufacturing. It is true and not a conspiracy theory.
For me, yes this would be something I would NOT want injected into my body. This is not the same discussion for vaccines intended for Measles Mumps Rubella, Polio, or even Rabies, which I received. I suppose, maybe I received RV made from rabie-infected fetal tissue from racoons or skunks...who knows. Virology is a different science than Bacteriology. Unless someone says, we have been using aborted human fetus material this entire time for making ALL vaccine and is no big deal still reeks. The proof shown to me that this covid vx (at least AstraZenica CO.) was made that way is disgusting to me.
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Post by bernie on Dec 8, 2020 23:03:19 GMT -6
I was shared a post about the Astrazenica covid vacc as being made from 14 week aborted fetal material to make the modified DNA/RNA using the lung tissue from such sources. THIS is what I believe many fear in this particular vaccine push. There is an ethical thing behind the covid vaccine regarding the use of aborted material for manufacturing. It is true and not a conspiracy theory. For me, yes this would be something I would NOT want injected into my body. This is not the same discussion for vaccines intended for Measles Mumps Rubella, Polio, or even Rabies, which I received. I suppose, maybe I received RV made from rabie-infected fetal tissue from racoons or skunks...who knows. Virology is a different science than Bacteriology. Unless someone says, we have been using aborted human fetus material this entire time for making ALL vaccine and is no big deal still reeks. The proof shown to me that this covid vx (at least AstraZenica CO.) was made that way is disgusting to me. This link seems to say that the Pfizer & Moderna vaccines are free of these materials. Still, I'm not really keen on taking the jab for reasons like what's in the video D4L posted, and the fact that the whole thing with the virus seems questionable at best. www.health.nd.gov/sites/www/files/documents/COVID%20Vaccine%20Page/COVID-19%20Vaccine%20Fetal%20Cell%20Handout.pdfHere's the link D4L posted: brandnewtube.com/watch/ask-the-experts-covid-19-vaccine-now-banned-on-youtube-and-facebook_qIsNohSIeSgfz2J.html |
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Post by mike on Dec 9, 2020 8:17:51 GMT -6
Thanks disciple4life for a source of medical professionals who are willing to risk their own personal livelihoods and reputations to help the unlearned, uninformed and underinformed to make a choice based on more complete information. What was helpful for me in this video was the doctor who stated there has been research for 20 years on coronaviruses and vaccines but due to harmful side effects produced in animals they havent been able to proceed with a vaccine. This thread is generally consistent in the thoughts on the virus itself, a fake pandemic, an unproven, untested vaccine and the harm all of this has caused to millions of people financially, mentally, & socially. We are not guinea pigs. We are image bearers of the Most High God. However our enemy does not value our lives or spiritual health but seeks to destroy not only we who believe, but those who do not. The enemy is not picking and choosing, he hates all of us and wants all destroyed. It is time for us, the body of Christ to persevere! Our Lord will return soon to redeem His people. Until He does we must continue to realize (daily) that this battle is not of this world, but in the heavens. We should aspire to be like Daniel to seek the Lord and repent of our wickedness along with the wickedness of our country, our fellow people who despise righteousness and truth. Pray for one another that our faith not fail. Tougher days are just ahead |
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Post by ksteven on Dec 9, 2020 9:02:42 GMT -6
I was shared a post about the Astrazenica covid vacc as being made from 14 week aborted fetal material to make the modified DNA/RNA using the lung tissue from such sources. THIS is what I believe many fear in this particular vaccine push. There is an ethical thing behind the covid vaccine regarding the use of aborted material for manufacturing. It is true and not a conspiracy theory. For me, yes this would be something I would NOT want injected into my body. This is not the same discussion for vaccines intended for Measles Mumps Rubella, Polio, or even Rabies, which I received. I suppose, maybe I received RV made from rabie-infected fetal tissue from racoons or skunks...who knows. Virology is a different science than Bacteriology. Unless someone says, we have been using aborted human fetus material this entire time for making ALL vaccine and is no big deal still reeks. The proof shown to me that this covid vx (at least AstraZenica CO.) was made that way is disgusting to me. Responding to the portion in red. Aborted human fetal cells are currently used in the manufacturing of Varicella (chickenpox), Shingles, Hepatitis A, and Rubella (MMR) vaccines, and have been for many many years. I won't tell anyone here how to manage their own body, but my wife and I have researched vaccines intensely (her more then myself) ever since she became pregnant with our daughter. I, personally, would never even consider getting an injection, and my daughter (unvaccinated) is the healthiest child in all my family and circle of friends. All vaccines have dangerous side effects, and all manufacturers of vaccines (ALL) are legally exempt of liability. The only reason to make an entire industry exempt of liability for damages is because the damage from that industry is unavoidable and undeniable. Again, we are all adults who can make our own choices, and I won't push you to agree with me, but you should also know what you are putting inside your body. |
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Post by bernie on Dec 9, 2020 12:13:09 GMT -6
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Post by bernie on Dec 9, 2020 12:36:17 GMT -6
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Post by mike on Dec 9, 2020 13:19:23 GMT -6
Here is another positive piece of information regarding the virus and how to treat it for all concerned. Well the first problem here is this is a generic drug, so there's no money to be made. Next it doesnt meet the agenda, so its silenced. I am surprised this FOX affiliate continues to publish things like this and get away with it. In short Ivermectin does work despite what the NIH said in August. All this doctor claims is that the data he and other doctors compiled to be reviewed by the NIH. Think that will happen? Also of note in the comment section I found to be curiously and thoughtfully accurate "Imagine a vaccine being so safe that you have to be threatened to take it, for a disease so deadly that you have to be tested to know if you have it!" brandnewtube.com/watch/pierre-kory-m-d-pleads-with-senate-to-approve-life-saving-drug-quot-ivermectin-quot-stop-vax_9muIPwnvvb32yXl.html |
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Post by boraddict on Dec 9, 2020 20:13:28 GMT -6
"a disease so deadly that you have to be tested to know if you have it!" mike, that is so funny!  |
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Post by bernie on Dec 10, 2020 12:18:12 GMT -6
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