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Post by bernie on Nov 30, 2020 11:53:38 GMT -6
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Post by disciple4life on Nov 30, 2020 18:13:38 GMT -6
bernie, It's just like you said. This is just one of a growing number of world leaders, and huge international companies who are all saying the same thimg. - There is no return to "normal" - the way we all lived our lives and traveled and went to restaurants pre-Plannedemic. For those who are not Christian- whose hope is in a president, or party, or stimulus, or government, or a vaccine, - I honestly don't know how they can cope. It's no wonder the suicide rates are soaring all over the world.. www.newsmax.com/newsfront/uk-covid-vaccine-bars/2020/11/30/id/999347/In Japan, more people have died of suicide - than have actually died of COVID. I was just in a Chili's last week, in East Tennessee - in the Buckle of the Bible Belt - and the host gave us a laminated one page menu - with about 5 things. She said that to see the full menu, we had to use our smart phone and go to an online version - huge pain in the neck - I hated it. She said that it's the trend of the entire restaurant industry. The good news is that the people of Denmark protested outside the parliament by banging pots and pans for 10 days. The Parliament thought the noise was more annoying than COVID, and due to the overwhelming protest and public outrage, they repealed the law that said people would be physically detained by military and forced to be vaccinated. The original law passed by unanimous vote, but the people revolted and said NO way. So so surprising, but such great news.
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Post by bernie on Dec 3, 2020 15:21:56 GMT -6
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Post by sog on Dec 4, 2020 10:15:24 GMT -6
Headline: Pfizer chairman: We're not sure if someone can transmit virus after vaccination thehill.com/news-by-subject/healthcare/528619-pfizer-chairman-were-not-sure-if-someone-can-transmit-virus-afterFrom link - In a list of interview highlights released before the special, Holt asked Bourla, “Even though I’ve had the protection, am I still able to transmit it to other people?” “I think this is something that needs to be examined. We are not certain about that right now with what we know,” Bourla responded. Though Pfizer’s vaccine has shown promising results, challenges have surfaced when it comes to distributing and administering it. The vaccine must be delivered and stored in extreme sub-zero temperatures, which has heightened the demand for dry ice. Once the vaccine is kept at normal refrigeration temperatures, it must be used within four or five days or be discarded. The vaccine is administered in two doses spaced a few weeks apart.
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Post by bernie on Dec 4, 2020 12:11:08 GMT -6
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Post by mike on Dec 4, 2020 12:36:19 GMT -6
I want to point something out to everyone regarding zerohedge in case you arent aware. be cautious about jumping into their articles headfirst. As with the extreme left media, we should be examining other sources as well. The first clue here should be the author of the article(s), at least most that I see posted here on the site. Tyler Durden is the narrative character in the movie Fight Club: "The big twist is that Tyler is actually not real. He's a figment of The Narrator's imagination. When the movie first came out in 1999 this was a shock to audiences. But if you rewatch the film, you will see that director David Fincher hid a bunch of clues throughout the film that actually gave away the ending." "While the narrator represents the crisis of capitalism as a crisis of masculinity, Tyler Durden represents "redemption of masculinity repackaged as the promise of violence in the interests of social and political anarchy"."
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Post by venge on Dec 4, 2020 13:52:00 GMT -6
I want to point something out to everyone regarding zerohedge in case you arent aware. be cautious about jumping into their articles headfirst. As with the extreme left media, we should be examining other sources as well. The first clue here should be the author of the article(s), at least most that I see posted here on the site. Tyler Durden is the narrative character in the movie Fight Club: "The big twist is that Tyler is actually not real. He's a figment of The Narrator's imagination. When the movie first came out in 1999 this was a shock to audiences. But if you rewatch the film, you will see that director David Fincher hid a bunch of clues throughout the film that actually gave away the ending." "While the narrator represents the crisis of capitalism as a crisis of masculinity, Tyler Durden represents "redemption of masculinity repackaged as the promise of violence in the interests of social and political anarchy"." Ive said this before on this thread...each is to push the right and left to the extreme against each other. The fearmongering and anxiety from these sites is purposed to push their base and its conspiracy theories. Caution should be used as Mike said and we should be looking at other news sources as well. There are plenty of vaccine stories that have positivity...but I dont see them posted here for some reason.
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Post by mike on Dec 5, 2020 13:44:40 GMT -6
So for those curious, natural anti bodies appear more effective than the lab vaccines according to this article ( link) Since I've already had this I'll roll the dice with my immune system. However bith my wife and I think we may have the actual disease as we both still have a slight post nasal cough (over 2 months since infection). To venge - the negativity comes with the notion of being 1. This virus was grown in a lab 2. The survival rate is over 99% although the media doesnt portray that very well. Still using their skewed data its 95% 3. We have zero idea the vaccine will beyond 3 months at this time 4. We have zero idea of any side effect from a new medical process either altering oir RNA or DNA (dna vax is genetically modified chimpanzee dna - no thank you) 5. The incremental normalization - first it was 2 weeks, then masks if you cant be 6 ft away, next masks in every store, next masks + 6 ft. Next masks + 6ft + masks in your own home. Now a vax that may not last long.
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Post by boraddict on Dec 5, 2020 19:29:30 GMT -6
According to the information on the following video, the covid can be handled effectively without a vaccine.
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Post by disciple4life on Dec 6, 2020 8:08:51 GMT -6
Thanks boraddict. It looks very very encouraging, informative and positive. Can you send the link so we can share this? Also - after several years I think I just figured out your Avatar. 😜 Is Bor- Book of Revelation. Can't believe it just now just hit me. 😉
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Post by venge on Dec 6, 2020 9:24:47 GMT -6
So for those curious, natural anti bodies appear more effective than the lab vaccines according to this article ( link) Since I've already had this I'll roll the dice with my immune system. However bith my wife and I think we may have the actual disease as we both still have a slight post nasal cough (over 2 months since infection). To venge - the negativity comes with the notion of being 1. This virus was grown in a lab 2. The survival rate is over 99% although the media doesnt portray that very well. Still using their skewed data its 95% 3. We have zero idea the vaccine will beyond 3 months at this time 4. We have zero idea of any side effect from a new medical process either altering oir RNA or DNA (dna vax is genetically modified chimpanzee dna - no thank you) 5. The incremental normalization - first it was 2 weeks, then masks if you cant be 6 ft away, next masks in every store, next masks + 6 ft. Next masks + 6ft + masks in your own home. Now a vax that may not last long. You are right in saying, we don't know what the vaccine will do after 3 months. We do not know the long term effects if any as a result of taking the vaccine. There are many unknowns. Just as many people say masks work, the same amount say masks do not work. There were anti-vaxxers before Covid and they remain today. There is alot of confusion on the net because people are sketpical. Is Covid real? versus Covid is real Does the vaccine work? versus the Vaccine does work The death ratio of covid patients is low versus the death ratio of covid is high Covid is not exhausting our hospitals versus covid is decimating our hospitals Covid is no worse then the flu verses covid can be deadly We should allow people to get covid to reach herd status versus we should distance ourselves to fight covid and vaccinate for herd status and it goes on...who to believe? Some facts: Covid does exist. People die from Covid People live with covid but can suffer permanent disabilities and loss of limbs from blood clots Covid is more contagious then the flu I dont want to catch it nor do I want my love ones to catch it. Most people think this way and its reasonable to expect we do what is needed to fight it.
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Post by mike on Dec 6, 2020 11:22:35 GMT -6
Agreee with all you say brother except Perhaps it is most people you know and not just most people. You asked why all the negative...I listed several reasons of which there are more. Should we do all to fight it? Yes! I still have a post nasal cough. Over two months of this! But fighting something with something that we dont much about is up to each person. You are persuaded that the vax is right for you and your family. Edit - and I hope and pray that when you do get vaxxed you are not affected negatively! There are many who do not think that way and they do have good reason
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Post by boraddict on Dec 6, 2020 11:31:34 GMT -6
Thanks boraddict . It looks very very encouraging, informative and positive. Can you send the link so we can share this? Also - after several years I think I just figured out your Avatar. 😜 Is Bor- Book of Revelation. Can't believe it just now just hit me. 😉 Thank you disciple4life , and the website is www.youtube.com/c/PeakProsperity/featuredI think of the Book of Revelation several times throughout the day. Nothing major in most instances but something like an association from one verse to another. I am a Book of Revelation addict! Post Script: The Book of Revelation is the only book of scripture that expressly states that it is a message from God the Father to us (Rev. 1:1).
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Post by bernie on Dec 7, 2020 12:01:01 GMT -6
Thanks boraddict . It looks very very encouraging, informative and positive. Can you send the link so we can share this? Also - after several years I think I just figured out your Avatar. 😜 Is Bor- Book of Revelation. Can't believe it just now just hit me. 😉 Thank you disciple4life , and the website is www.youtube.com/c/PeakProsperity/featuredI think of the Book of Revelation several times throughout the day. Nothing major in most instances but something like an association from one verse to another. I am a Book of Revelation addict! Post Script: The Book of Revelation is the only book of scripture that expressly states that it is a message from God the Father to us (Rev. 1:1). I believe it's also the only book that specifically has a blessing attached to it.😊
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Post by bernie on Dec 7, 2020 12:07:18 GMT -6
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