The City of Mystery Babylon?

Jerusalem has never ruled over as this suggests
Rome has ruled over others.
The Vatican has not ruled over nations
Moscow does hold sway over some countries
New York doesn’t rule over others but Washington DC does
Mecca doesn’t rule over other nations

The description of MB is difficult. Does it have to be middle eastern or not? It does need to be involved in 7 important nations imo from the 7 previous heads. What city can politically motivate 7 nations through trade? Egypt, Rome, Iran, Iraq, Syria, and 2 more
Washington DC doesn’t hold a lot of sway over Iran, Iraq and Syria. That is more Moscow and Beijing

But, Washington does sanctions involving trade against those countries enough to putting extreme burden on them. Honestly, This kingdom of the USA is one that pushes a lot of countries to do its will for 70 years. But Beijing has been moving quickly to do the same in our place in the last 4 years.

Beijing and Washington should be watched imo. What city has enough true believers that God says come out of her my people?
Does Moscow or Mecca have that many Christians? I don’t believe so. And not just the city themselves but the kingdom too.

Fun topic

My choice is none of the above.

My choice would be Sodom, and Egypt. Like it was in the days of Lot, like it was in the day of the Old Pharaoh boy. The great city is the world full of hard hearts that don't want to do what God says to do.

The great city is the jeering crowd screaming: "CRUCIFY HIM". The great city is now.

"And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city that symbolically is called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified.

A great city is made up of CITI-ZENS. It's the same thing as Daniel 8's "kingdom of the rebels", the kingdom of transgressors. This is not a literal kingdom or a city in a geographical location on earth. It's the cumulative number of people that are in final rebellion with God. These are also the many waters, the many peoples and nations and tongues that the composite beast has risen from. And at the latter end of their reign, when they have become completely wicked, they will meet their stern faced king. Riddle me that one.

The Great City Split into Three Parts

King David defeated the Moabites. He made them all lay down side by side and counted them off by twos. He killed every two, but spared the third. Kill Kill Spare. Kill Kill Spare. Kill Kill Spare. 2/3's were destroyed, 1/3 was saved. 666 = Destruction.



"And he defeated Moab and he measured them with a line, making them lie down on the ground. Two lines he measured to be put to death, and one full line to be spared. And the Moabites became servants to David and brought tribute. - 2 Samuel 8:2

That's got God's fingerprints all over it. God works in thirds. That's how God does His Wrath. Even with His own people.

Like in Ezekiel 5.

A third part of you shall die of pestilence and be consumed with famine in your midst;

A third part shall fall by the sword all around you; and

A third part I will scatter to all the winds and will unsheathe the sword after them.

“Thus shall my anger spend itself, and I will vent my fury upon them and satisfy myself.

Like the poor Moabites, 2/3's are destroyed, 1/3 is saved.

And then in Revelation we find a dozen or so examples of a "third' being destroyed.

A third of the earth was burned up,

A third of the trees were burned up,

A third of the sea became blood.

A third of the living creatures in the sea died,

A third of the ships were destroyed.

A third of the rivers and on the springs of water.

A third of the waters became wormwood,

A third of the sun was struck,

A third of the moon,

A third of the stars,

A third of their light might be darkened,

A third of the day might be kept from shining,

A third of the night.

A third of mankind.

But two thirds are always spared. There's never a complete destruction of the Earth, or of all the Earth's inhabitants up to this point in the narrative. But there comes a time, when the time will come, for God to destroy the destroyers of the earth. With a sharp sword that comes from His mouth, a sharp command to die. The land will finally have had enough and will vomit out it's inhabitants.

"The great city was split into three parts,
and the cities of the nations fell, and God remembered Babylon the great,
to make her drain the cup of the wine of the fury of his wrath.

The great city is split into three parts, split into thirds. Notice the "drain the cup" part? Like, if someone drains the cup of the fury of God's Wrath, this is total destruction.

This is the type of Wrath that is NOT diluted. I hate to even think about it. All three "third"s are destroyed. Up until this point, the wrath WAS always diluted, or mixed with blood, mixed with mercy. A third of the trees, a third of the ships, a third of the day and a third of mankind. But two "thirds" were always spared. At the end of the second coming, the cup is drained. The Great City will be split into three parts.

At the end of the end time tribulation, there will be only two types of people on Earth. At the seventh trumpet there will be God's People, which is God's Holy City, and there will be the Great City, the cities of the nations that will fall.

Then God's people are ALL changed in the blink of an eye and find themselves in the air while ALL of the tribes remaining on the earth, the great city, will mourn, they are dead men walking.

Those who are not killed in the wine press, and by the plagues, were slain by a sharp sword that came out from the white horse rider's mouth.

"And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged with their flesh.

Like the bartender says at closing time,

"You don't have to go home,
but you can't stay here.

But don't fret.

"There's a better Home a waiting.
In the sky, Lord in the sky.

 

If it’s Jerusalem, how does it get destroyed yet the 2 witnesses are not kill by the beast, that just destroyed Jerusalem, till after 42 months? That poses a problem.
The beast image is setup after MB is destroyed (Rev 14). Yet the image is during the 2 witnesses time so Jerusalem poses a major problem as MB

But the many waters that you see, the many nations and peoples and tongues, are the ones that voted the kings into office.

That's how the composite beast came to be, it rises from the "sea".

The people, the great city, are in control.

They can vote the kings out of office.

And vote new kings in that will enable what the majority wants.
You're right.

Wasn't that what pissed the Vandals off.

Didn't i hear that they kissed the foot of the Mary statue so many times that they wore her foot right off?

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

I think the Pope deleted this Commandment some time ago anyway.

He would THINK to change times and the Law. - Daniel 7:25

(And the Lord's prayer)



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I know. 

And i know that you have the reformers on your side.

So i know i'm outnumbered.

Age before beauty.

But the reformers couldn't see our world as it is today.

And you yourself should be one that can recognize the "head" that was healed from a deadly wound that he received in 1798. 

So while i recognize the Pope and his Vatican City as having an integral role and his playing big part with the composite beast, his Vatican City is still not big enough, in my view, to satisfy the specifications of the Great City of Revelation, where our Lord was crucified.

I know he did much killing, he nearly wore out the saints. But he wasn't around in the OT. He wasn't in that jeering crowd of wicked hard hearts screaming: "CRUCIFY HIM !, when even the Roman Pilate was trying multiple times to let Him go.. 

So i don't think we can pin ALL the blood of the saints and prophets on him.

He's just one of the heads on that monster beast,

Who can make war with it?

I see the Great City back with Sodom and Egypt, and with us right here and now.

About to be split into three parts.

Spooky stuff.

lol, if you believe they are literal, the waters are not, the women is not, the beast is not...so yeah, I’d say the mountains aren’t either hence It could be if it were a city.