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Post by uscgvet on Dec 22, 2018 13:35:36 GMT -6
You MUST be justified in the law!
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Post by fitz on Dec 22, 2018 14:28:03 GMT -6
Jesus kept the law perfectly because we can't. If any one MUST be justified by keeping the law, then they are doomed to an eternity in hell and Jesus died for nothing.
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Post by boraddict on Dec 22, 2018 14:30:59 GMT -6
What R.D. is getting wrong is that there is not more than one way to be saved. The Jews need faith alone and Gentiles need faith alone. No one needs any sort of work to be saved. James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. 25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way? -----> "You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only." <-------- Remember... James 1:1 1 James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad: Uscgvet, your premise as supported by James 2:21 is Abraham being justified by works when he offered his son upon the altar, and from this you are extrapolating to the larger subject of "works in general." The problem with this extrapolation is Abraham's work that pertains to his sacrifice of Isaac upon the altar that (historically) in turn caused the children of Israel to sacrifice their children upon the altar. Wherein Abraham was justified, and the children of Israel were not. That is, in Abraham's case he was commanded to do the sacrifice of his son, and in the children of Israel's case they were not commanded to kill their children. Thus, Abraham was justified in his sacrifice of Isaac, and the children of Israel were not justified in the killing of their children. Thus, Abraham was justified in that work because he was commanded, and the children of Israel were not. As you can see, the subject goes beyond "works" to the killing of Children as a sacrifice. That is, the point of the verse is the justification of killing children as a sacrifice to God and not to the use of "works for salvation through justification." The Mormons lean heavily toward justification for salvation and it is an abominable doctrine. I think the problem in your analysis is the general disregard for biblical history. Thus, if biblical history is discounted then it is not fair to use James 2:21 in your argument. It is a difficult thing to internalize the concept that faith alone provides salvation. I have always regarded those with what I call "blind faith" as being the most blessed of all. We on the other hand need to thrash through all the information before we learn that faith is all that is required. Then, as Natalie has stated so many times other things follows such as living a Christ like life; for with out faith nothing follows. Yet to show works as evidence of that faith is false doctrine in line with Mormon teachings of justification. You know, "the justified" as in proved by their works. I think that the Savior is a classic example of faith and works. He had faith and as a natural consequence works followed. These works verify to us that he is in fact who he claims to be. Thus, his works are evidence of his faith and not the other way around. We on the other hand are commanded to have faith alone for salvation. It in turn follows that our lives will display evidence of our faith and that evidence is our works. Take for instance a preacher who works toward the salvation of souls. Yet that preacher is seeing prostitutes. I would argue that the preacher's faith is weak as evidenced by him not obeying the commandment to follow Christ. That is, he has works as evidenced by the effort to save souls, yet he does not follow Christ. If on the other-hand he increases his faith to follow Christ, then his desire to save souls is a natural consequence of that faith and the prostitutes have no power over him. Thus, it is faith alone that provides redemption in Christ, not works. |
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Post by fitz on Dec 22, 2018 14:41:04 GMT -6
Galatians 1
6 I am shocked that you are turning away so soon from God, who called you to himself through the loving mercy of Christ.[c] You are following a different way that pretends to be the Good News 7 but is not the Good News at all. You are being fooled by those who deliberately twist the truth concerning Christ.
8 Let God’s curse fall on anyone, including us or even an angel from heaven, who preaches a different kind of Good News than the one we preached to you. 9 I say again what we have said before: If anyone preaches any other Good News than the one you welcomed, let that person be cursed.
10 Obviously, I’m not trying to win the approval of people, but of God. If pleasing people were my goal, I would not be Christ’s servant.
Galatians 2
15 “You and I are Jews by birth, not ‘sinners’ like the Gentiles. 16 Yet we know that a person is made right with God by faith in Jesus Christ, not by obeying the law. And we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we might be made right with God because of our faith in Christ, not because we have obeyed the law. For no one will ever be made right with God by obeying the law.”[d]
17 But suppose we seek to be made right with God through faith in Christ and then we are found guilty because we have abandoned the law. Would that mean Christ has led us into sin? Absolutely not! 18 Rather, I am a sinner if I rebuild the old system of law I already tore down. 19 For when I tried to keep the law, it condemned me. So I died to the law—I stopped trying to meet all its requirements—so that I might live for God. 20 My old self has been crucified with Christ.[e] It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me. So I live in this earthly body by trusting in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not treat the grace of God as meaningless. For if keeping the law could make us right with God, then there was no need for Christ to die.
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Post by uscgvet on Dec 22, 2018 14:54:51 GMT -6
Jesus kept the law perfectly because we can't. If any one MUST be justified by keeping the law, then they are doomed to an eternity in hell and Jesus died for nothing. In order to get into God's Kingdom, ----> YOU <---- must be justified in the law. Period! That is what John the baptist and Jesus were preaching the whole time in the Gospels before Jesus was nailed to a cross and that is also what Stephen preached before they murdered him. James says you need to do works and have faith to be justified in the law. He is in agreement with Jesus and 100% correct! So, become a Jew, get circumcised, baptized in water, repent, Believe Jesus is the Son of God, sell everything you own and give to the poor (or the community as Peter said in Act 4), chop of your hand and pluck out your eye if they made you sin, follow the law to the letter as Jesus said you must do. Then you will be granted access to eternal life in God's Kingdom... Or.... As Jesus later went to Paul in the Spirit and revealed to him, the Gospel of 1 Cor 15, that Paul was to go to the gentiles with... You are justified in the law by Grace thru faith (not of works) in the Gospel taught by Paul in 1 Cor 15. And that's it... |
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Post by boraddict on Dec 22, 2018 15:49:00 GMT -6
Jesus kept the law perfectly because we can't. If any one MUST be justified by keeping the law, then they are doomed to an eternity in hell and Jesus died for nothing. In order to get into God's Kingdom, ----> YOU <---- must be justified in the law. Period! That is what John the baptist and Jesus were preaching the whole time in the Gospels before Jesus was nailed to a cross and that is also what Stephen preached before they murdered him. James says you need to do works and have faith to be justified in the law. He is in agreement with Jesus and 100% correct! So, become a Jew, get circumcised, baptized in water, repent, sell everything you own and give to the poor, chop of your hand and pluck out your eye if they made you sin, follow the law to the letter as Jesus said you must do. Then you will be granted access to eternal life in God's Kingdom... Or.... As Jesus later went to Paul in the Spirit and revealed to him, the Gospel of 1 Cor 15, that Paul was to go to the gentiles with... You are justified in the law by Grace thru faith (not of works) in the Gospel taught by Paul in 1 Cor 15. And that's it... Much of the debate over faith vs. works is a matter of semantics. While it is true there is the Law, and Moses established the Mosaic Law, it does not mean eternal law. Lets say that Mosaic law is temporal. However, contained within the Mosaic law are elements of eternal law. Then those parts of Mosaic law that are not eternal law will at some point be done away. Such is the case with Christ that he did away with Mosaic law. Secondly, since we as his people can never live eternal law, then he must save us from that eternal law. That is, since we can not live eternal law, then he must save us from its justifiable consequences of eternal death. Thus, we are in fact justified by Christ in the eternal law. So I do not see a problem with your statement that we must be justified in the law because we are justified in Christ; he being our Savior from prosecution via the eternal law. This is not to say that we must be justified in Mosaic law because Mosaic law it not eternal and requires no salvation therefrom. That is, the eye for an eye thing is void via eternal law; it being temporal only. Thus, we are not under condemnation via Mosaic law but only eternal law. Thus, the Mosaic law of circumcision is void having no power in eternal law as are other Jewish customs established by that Mosaic law. So lets look at your list of items and distinguish that which is eternal and that which is Mosaic as follows: 1) justified in the law, this pertains to eternal law that is satisfied by the atonement of Jesus Christ 2) "works" to be justified in the law, works as evidence of faith and it is that faith that provides salvation from the eternal law via the atonement of Jesus Christ 3) "faith" to be justified in the law, and this is faith in Jesus Christ as your Savior from the eternal law 4) become a Jew, this is simply false doctrine 5) get circumcised, this was Mosaic law and has not application in eternal law except in its metaphorical application 6) baptized in water, Lord Jesus gave this commandment and it has an application to eternal law in that context 7) repent, Lord Jesus gave this commandment and it has an application to eternal law in that context 8) sell everything you own and give that money to the poor, this commandment is specific to an individual or group and is not a general commandment from Christ to his people. Not Mosaic nor eternal. 9) Chop off your hand or pluck our your eye, some things like this in scripture are Mosaic law and some are examples to show the seriousness of the offence. Not eternal law. 10) Follow the law to the letter, I do not recall Christ saying this and if he did it pertains to eternal law that he knows we can not do. Thus it is an admonition for us to do our very best. With regard to Mosaic law that was totally corrupted when Christ was upon the earth he never would have commanded this. Show the proof. 11) justified in the law by grace, this is the justification in eternal law by the atonement of Jesus Christ |
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Post by uscgvet on Dec 22, 2018 16:28:29 GMT -6
In order to get into God's Kingdom, ----> YOU <---- must be justified in the law. Period! That is what John the baptist and Jesus were preaching the whole time in the Gospels before Jesus was nailed to a cross and that is also what Stephen preached before they murdered him. James says you need to do works and have faith to be justified in the law. He is in agreement with Jesus and 100% correct! So, become a Jew, get circumcised, baptized in water, repent, sell everything you own and give to the poor, chop of your hand and pluck out your eye if they made you sin, follow the law to the letter as Jesus said you must do. Then you will be granted access to eternal life in God's Kingdom... Or.... As Jesus later went to Paul in the Spirit and revealed to him, the Gospel of 1 Cor 15, that Paul was to go to the gentiles with... You are justified in the law by Grace thru faith (not of works) in the Gospel taught by Paul in 1 Cor 15. And that's it... Much of the debate over faith vs. works is a matter of semantics. While it is true there is the Law, and Moses established the Mosaic Law, it does not mean eternal law. Lets say that Mosaic law is temporal. However, contained within the Mosaic law are elements of eternal law. Then those parts of Mosaic law that are not eternal law will at some point be done away. Such is the case with Christ that he did away with Mosaic law. Secondly, since we as his people can never live eternal law, then he must save us from that eternal law. That is, since we can not live eternal law, then he must save us from its justifiable consequences of eternal death. Thus, we are in fact justified by Christ in the eternal law. So I do not see a problem with your statement that we must be justified in the law because we are justified in Christ; he being our Savior from prosecution via the eternal law. This is not to say that we must be justified in Mosaic law because Mosaic law it not eternal and requires no salvation therefrom. That is, the eye for an eye thing is void via eternal law; it being temporal only. Thus, we are not under condemnation via Mosaic law but only eternal law. Thus, the Mosaic law of circumcision is void having no power in eternal law as are other Jewish customs established by that Mosaic law. So lets look at your list of items and distinguish that which is eternal and that which is Mosaic as follows: 1) justified in the law, this pertains to eternal law that is satisfied by the atonement of Jesus Christ 2) "works" to be justified in the law, works as evidence of faith and it is that faith that provides salvation from the eternal law via the atonement of Jesus Christ 3) "faith" to be justified in the law, and this is faith in Jesus Christ as your Savior from the eternal law 4) become a Jew, this is simply false doctrine 5) get circumcised, this was Mosaic law and has not application in eternal law except in its metaphorical application 6) baptized in water, Lord Jesus gave this commandment and it has an application to eternal law in that context 7) repent, Lord Jesus gave this commandment and it has an application to eternal law in that context 8) sell everything you own and give that money to the poor, this commandment is specific to an individual or group and is not a general commandment from Christ to his people. Not Mosaic nor eternal. 9) Chop off your hand or pluck our your eye, some things like this in scripture are Mosaic law and some are examples to show the seriousness of the offence. Not eternal law. 10) Follow the law to the letter, I do not recall Christ saying this and if he did it pertains to eternal law that he knows we can not do. Thus it is an admonition for us to do our very best. With regard to Mosaic law that was totally corrupted when Christ was upon the earth he never would have commanded this. Show the proof. 11) justified in the law by grace, this is the justification in eternal law by the atonement of Jesus Christ Your entire premise is based on James 2:24 is not talking about eternal law or Mosaic law.....? When just a couple of paragraphs above that verse, James is trying to make his point about violating Mosaic law... literally... James 2:8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; 9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. So which is it? Works+Faith or Grace thru Faith I though all my sins were forgiven having been nailed to the cross along with the law as Paul wrote in Colossians 2:11-15? James 2:11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. So which is it? Works+Faith or Grace thru Faith I though all my sins were forgiven having been nailed to the cross along with the law as Paul wrote in Colossians 2:11-15? |
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Post by Natalie on Dec 22, 2018 16:36:33 GMT -6
When Jesus taught, He showed that it is a heart issue. For example, don't murder. Easy enough. I think I can pretty much restrain myself from murdering anyone. But, Jesus comes along and says if you have hate in your heart toward someone that is murder. That's a bit tougher. It's impossible to keep the law. No one but God alone can do it. If someone were able to do it then they could say they had a hand in their own salvation. That sounds like pride to me.
"For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God." and it goes on to say "to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And to the one who does not work but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness."
Jesus told Nicodemus that to enter the kingdom of God he must be born again. Born of above; born of Spirit. No one can do that on their own. There is no amount of works you can do to get yourself born again. How are you born again? But believing on Him who would be lifted up and draw all men to Himself. How was Nicodemus saved? By being born again; believing in Jesus.
And what does it mean to believe in Jesus? It means that He lived a perfectly moral, holy life, completely obedient to God and to the Law because man cannot keep the law. Scripture tells us that the law cannot save. His perfect obedience also meant being a perfect sacrifice. The only sacrifice that ever truly did away with sin, covered it permanently. And so then, His perfect life is applied to our account when we believe. Our debt is gone, our sin is gone, and we have His righteousness. We are justified by what He did.
I love the picture in Zechariah 3. Joshua the high priest goes before the Angel of the Lord (who I believe is Christ). Satan is there accusing him. The Angel takes Joshua's dirty clothes and replaces them with pure clothes. Robes of righteousness. That is what Jesus does for anyone who believes. Jew or Gentile. The moment we believe we are then dressed in His righteousness. Nothing else is needed! We can then live out our lives by the strength of His spirit to do the good works He has prepared for us! The works that show our faith (James) It's all because of His works!
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Post by boraddict on Dec 22, 2018 19:22:09 GMT -6
Your entire premise is based on James 2:24 is not talking about eternal law or Mosaic law.....? When just a couple of paragraphs above that verse, James is trying to make his point about violating Mosaic law... literally... James 2:8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; 9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. So which is it? Works+Faith or Grace thru Faith I though all my sins were forgiven having been nailed to the cross along with the law as Paul wrote in Colossians 2:11-15? James 2:11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. So which is it? Works+Faith or Grace thru Faith I though all my sins were forgiven having been nailed to the cross along with the law as Paul wrote in Colossians 2:11-15? Yes. That is my point. Following are the verses that you have referenced: James 2:8, "If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all ( law). 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law." 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty (law of salvation). 13 For he shall have judgment (upon him) without mercy that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment. 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? The contrast is between two types of law, the law that is justifiably upon us and the law of salvation. If you say that you deserve mercy then the evidence is your works that are derived via your faith in the law of salvation through Christ. Thus, it is grace thru faith, evidenced by works. That is, the evidence of your faith in Christ is your works just as the evidence of Christ's faith is his works. However, it is not the works but the faith that saves us, and the exorcise of that faith is evidenced via our works. |
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Post by mike on Dec 22, 2018 19:50:53 GMT -6
Romans 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? 2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. 3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. 5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. 6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. 8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. 9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. 12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17 Nowthen it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
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Post by uscgvet on Dec 22, 2018 20:11:34 GMT -6
Your entire premise is based on James 2:24 is not talking about eternal law or Mosaic law.....? When just a couple of paragraphs above that verse, James is trying to make his point about violating Mosaic law... literally... James 2:8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; 9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. So which is it? Works+Faith or Grace thru Faith I though all my sins were forgiven having been nailed to the cross along with the law as Paul wrote in Colossians 2:11-15? James 2:11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. So which is it? Works+Faith or Grace thru Faith I though all my sins were forgiven having been nailed to the cross along with the law as Paul wrote in Colossians 2:11-15? Yes. That is my point. Following are the verses that you have referenced: James 2:8, "If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all ( law). 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law." 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty (law of salvation). 13 For he shall have judgment (upon him) without mercy that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment. 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? The contrast is between two types of law, the law that is justifiably upon us and the law of salvation. If you say that you deserve mercy then the evidence is your works that are derived via your faith in the law of salvation through Christ. Thus, it is grace thru faith, evidenced by works. That is, the evidence of your faith in Christ is your works just as the evidence of Christ's faith is his works. However, it is not the works but the faith that saves us, and the exorcise of that faith is evidenced via our works. Very strong defense! :-D *saber CLANG* www.gotquestions.org/law-of-liberty.htmlNow... Here is a question on the law of liberty: Is it possible to sin while under the law of liberty (if the "law of liberty" = "the law of faith" described by Paul in Romans 3) when all sin was nailed to the cross as described by Colossians 2:11-15? What about showing partiality while under the law of liberty? Edit: This is why I love you guys here so much. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant! This is the right place to be for sword sharpening. |
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Post by mike on Dec 22, 2018 20:37:46 GMT -6
Haha .. good edit USCG. This is good loving discussion, the way we should be!
I break the law daily brother. So yes
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Post by uscgvet on Dec 22, 2018 20:50:23 GMT -6
Haha .. good edit USCG. This is good loving discussion, the way we should be! I break the law daily brother. So yes :-D You break the law of Moses? or the law of liberty [James 2] (law of faith [Romans 3]) ? What is the penalty for breaking the law of liberty (faith)? |
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Post by mike on Dec 22, 2018 20:56:13 GMT -6
Christ fulfilled the law of Moses. But yes I am guilty of breaking the law daily. The law of sin and death is at war with the law of liberty in my members every day.
Whatever is not of faith is sin in Gods eyes. Who shall deliver me from this body of death
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Post by uscgvet on Dec 22, 2018 21:09:10 GMT -6
After reading this www.gotquestions.org/law-of-liberty.htmlWe understand that when we believe in the Lord, His Gospel, we are no longer under the law of Moses or sin. After we are saved by Grace thru Faith, we are justified by the law of Faith (as written in Romans 3:27) But in James 2, you can sin against the law of liberty (a law according to Paul that has no sin against it because it's faith... as sin was just nailed to the cross): James 2:1 My brethren, do not hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with partiality. . . . James 2:8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; 9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. So what is the penalty of violating the law of liberty? ... James 2:8-10 Edit: I don't even want to know what that could mean for believers in Christ!!! |
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