Trump/Pence, 666 and the Anti-christ

Ok, we understand very clearly now. Thank you.

jerryh -- You said, "but nothing in the book can be taken as literal." Just to get some clarity, what book are you referring to?

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You can clearly see that some of your beliefs and comments are breaking rule one.

I didn't come here to debate your beliefs. Just unseal the book. If you want to take issue with my beliefs that's totally up to you. I'm just filling in the blanks with your views on Rev but it seems unavoidable that it's more your problem than mine.
Maybe Gods been shaking the tree in your churches and it was the ones obeying Him that left. What's left are the goats hanging to the tree. Either way, these questions may need to be looked at eventually.
But if you really can't handle this without erupting like that at me then it's fine. You can delete my comments and call it ReSealed. You won't be able to keep it quiet much longer.

The point with Paul isn't that he himself is or was evil. Just the same way that I don't consider Pence evil either. They both have/had the best of intentions. So I'm not saying Paul himself although he was his unwitting instrument just as Pence is. I associate Paul with the dragon after Israel is dispersed seen in the flood. It's no secret that much of Christian core beliefs may have been assimilations of other myths. If that's true, then the dragon or actual angel of light might have been Paul. The method does not sound like Jesus in the way he overtook the church. Just look at the spirit of the message. Paul had you putting on armor that Jesus had you taking off. He did in fact militarize the church which you proudly display today.
Because you come from this culture, everything is a war. But I'm not your enemy.

It's nothing you haven't already heard. Take only the gospels. Read them like a road map. When you get to the part that says take up your cross and follow him, literally stop pretending to be someone else and come out of your closet. It means allow yourself to be crucified for who you are and no praised for who you aren't. It's simple really. The secret to the abundant life was always there. Love God first. Love your neighbor. But there was a third command that opened the door to abundant life. Crucify the ego. You see it everywhere in how we are to respond and be. We also know it no matter what church we go to that only when our Egos are contrite and meek do we feel the HS right? Those moments are only the tip of an ice berg. What Jesus was actually doing was preparing the Jews for the dispersal and teaching them a new way of looking at the temple. He was aligning their perspective with a more loving version of God so that they could actually love him for his character. This teaching, along with the Jewish prayers and holidays based on moons was equipping his people for that long journey. If they followed his teachings with the prayers and devotions, it led them into a very deep presence and would secretly sustain them hidden somewhere or scattered more likely.
The good news is that what works for the Jews does for us as well. But here's the catch. It never was about sins and accusations. It was about Ego. The original sin is really the birth of ego. We were tossed out covering our shame. To go back in, we will yet have to become like children. The Kingdom isn't dropping out of the sky. It will erupt in us I believe and be passed on. In other words, the good news is Jesus is going to come back to save. The bad news is you must be born again. My version of the good news is the HS is coming like never before and if you've been building on a good foundation you may already be feeling the eruption within. He will take us into that mansion.
As for the Jews? You're not going to like my answer but He has a very big heart for them and desperately wants to console her.
The gospel isn't this mean thing demanding to be obeyed. To be honest, it's the end of religions as we know them. You will all know Him and I can tell you that it is.. I have been describing heaven or the temple in me on my FB page now for almost 2 years. I've written it like a diary and yes it will repulse you most likely. But no matter what you think of my beliefs, sanity, or ego, there's no denying His intimate place in my experiences. I do think I know what and where heaven is, and I can drink from living waters now without measure it seems. He is very powerful and I see a side of Him you may not see as fully. So in short, I'm a witness to my own version but I hope soon to not be the only one