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Post by butterfly5777 on Jan 19, 2018 20:24:52 GMT -6
1/19/18 Article posted today that US Embassy will be open in Jerusalem in 2019! Original plan was for 3 years out. Trump has moved date up. Plans to retrofit existing building. See articles: "US To Convert Existing Jerusalem Facility into Embassy for 2019 Opening" - Also, "Trump Speeds Up Move of US Embassy to Jerusalem" - www.cbsnews.com |
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Post by Natalie on Jan 19, 2018 20:44:48 GMT -6
Things sure are exciting aren't they?
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Post by butterfly5777 on Jan 19, 2018 22:07:21 GMT -6
Things sure are exciting aren't they?  Come Lord Jesus!!!
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Post by Gary on Jan 20, 2018 0:49:55 GMT -6
In one of the articles about this today there was even talk that Trump might push for end of year this year. Either way, that's pretty close and Guatemala will be moving their embassy, too.
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Post by nana on Feb 23, 2018 12:20:19 GMT -6
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Post by kjs on Feb 23, 2018 13:13:11 GMT -6
I am not sure what this paragraph means....
Earlier on Friday, JOL reported that the White House is considering an offer from casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, a major contributor to Republicans and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, to help fund the construction of the new US embassy building in Jerusalem.
IF they are planning to build from scratch -- or even just heavy remodeling an existing building .... they will need MORE then couple of months.... Especially, with all the security features which will be required.....
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Post by Gary on Feb 23, 2018 13:24:40 GMT -6
So here's the deal. Trump is pushing full steam ahead to open the embassy in Jerusalem THIS YEAR. But in order to accomplish that goal, they just let the diplomatic staff at the consular annex in West Jerusalem know that the annex will become the official (but temporary) embassy on May 14th of THIS YEAR. Then a permanent embassy will be scouted out and built over the next few years. www.unsealed.org/2018/02/prophecy-full-speed-ahead-us-embassy-to.htmlIn other words, the embassy is officially moving from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem in less than three months. |
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Post by schooldad3 on Feb 24, 2018 1:17:00 GMT -6
Wow with all of the excitement in these replies you would think there was a boat load of scripture to go with it. Would some one please point to the scripture passages that tell us that the U.S. opening an embassy in Jerusalem is a sign or even a prophecy.
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Post by fitz on Feb 24, 2018 7:10:40 GMT -6
There isn't one. However, you'd be blind to not see that this move is very provocative to the enemies of Israel and has definitely ratcheted up the tensions. Next stop...Gog-Magog...IMHO. Ezekiel 38-39 and Isaiah 17...if we must.
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Post by schooldad3 on Feb 24, 2018 10:38:53 GMT -6
There is no reason to think that Gog and Magog ( Ezekiel 38-39 and Isaiah 17 ) is about to occur. Look at Obadiah and Joel both say will occur prior to the day of the Lord. You see Fitz, Sights like this one are what i call prophecy pushers. They need their junkies to keep coming back to them so they offer up ( in the name of prophecy ) anything that will give their clients the high they need to keep coming back. They have no interest in any real study that would enable people to do bible prophecy on their own. Notice below how each passage VERY CLEARLY states that Israel is not even in the land just prior to the day of the Lord.
Obadiah 10 For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever. 11 In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them. 12 But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress. 13 Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamity; 14 Neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his that did escape; neither shouldest thou have delivered up those of his that did remain in the day of distress. 15 For the day of the Lord is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.
Joel 2 3 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, 2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land. 3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink. 4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head; 5 Because ye have taken my silver and my gold, and have carried into your temples my goodly pleasant things: 6 The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border. 7 Behold, I will raise them out of the place whither ye have sold them, and will return your recompence upon your own head: 8 And I will sell your sons and your daughters into the hand of the children of Judah, and they shall sell them to the Sabeans, to a people far off: for the Lord hath spoken it.... 14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision.
The prophecy pushers on this sight have no answer with regard to the above. When Israel looses the land they will left fumbling the foot ball not knowing what to do.
Gog and magog are real wars yet to be had but will take place at the battle of armagedon. It is the final battle between God and his enemy whom he has spoken of in the prophets . Ezekiel 38: 17 Thus saith the Lord God; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?
Before you flip out fritz stop and think.
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Post by witness1 on Feb 24, 2018 13:47:04 GMT -6
It is interesting that people can read the Bible so differently. I see Armegeddon as Zechariah 14, and I see Ezekiel 38 at the beginning of the Great Tribulation, corresponding to Rev 12 before the woman is nourished 1260 days.. Israel wins Ezekiel 38 with the help of the earth... where does it say Jesus comes back in Ezekiel 38?
EDIT: Although I don’t claim to know everything, I HAVE studied the Bible for 3-4 hours a day the last 6 months. So I’m not inept since I already had a fairly solid grasp of the scriptures. But I do not VERY CLEARLY see that Israel is not in the land prior to the Day of the Lord... would you explain that for those of us to whom it is not so clear?
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Post by davewatchman on Feb 24, 2018 14:09:17 GMT -6
Wow with all of the excitement in these replies you would think there was a boat load of scripture to go with it. Would some one please point to the scripture passages that tell us that the U.S. opening an embassy in Jerusalem is a sign or even a prophecy.
Do you think that the US embassy in Jerusalem could be confirmation of the continuing rebuilding process that began in the late 60's? It would look to me like a step forward, certainly not a step backwards. I don't have the quote handy now, but did you ever read what Isaac Newton had to say about Daniel 9 talking about two different comings of Messiah? |
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Post by mike on Feb 24, 2018 14:51:32 GMT -6
Schooldad...I have watched several of your videos and appreciate your contributions here. Your post about "prophesy pushers"... Maybe I'm not reading that correctly, but I will not ask for further explanation and will ask you and others remember who's team we are on.
When we don't agree we explain our position with humility preferring our brother as better than ourselves. You and many others are valuable teachers and have so much more to offer than I ever could. If moving the embassy means zero help us understand why don't denigrate folks like me who see it as signs.
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Post by davewatchman on Feb 24, 2018 15:10:04 GMT -6
Wow with all of the excitement in these replies you would think there was a boat load of scripture to go with it. Would some one please point to the scripture passages that tell us that the U.S. opening an embassy in Jerusalem is a sign or even a prophecy.
Do you think that the US embassy in Jerusalem could be confirmation of the continuing rebuilding process that began in the late 60's? It would look to me like a step forward, certainly not a step backwards. I don't have the quote handy now, but did you ever read what Isaac Newton had to say about Daniel 9 talking about two different comings of Messiah? Found it. Isaac Newton on Daniel 9:Isaac Newton said that there would be a modern day command to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem. All that we would have to do is to just add 49 years, "the compass of a Jubilee", to that modern day command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One comes. In 1969 the Knesset gave the order and set up a governmental agency to restore and to rebuild the old City of Jerusalem: And in January 1969 the Company was established. 1969 +49 years = 2018?   |
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Post by fitz on Feb 24, 2018 17:33:35 GMT -6
There is no reason to think that Gog and Magog ( Ezekiel 38-39 and Isaiah 17 ) is about to occur. Look at Obadiah and Joel both say will occur prior to the day of the Lord. You see Fitz, Sights like this one are what i call prophecy pushers. They need their junkies to keep coming back to them so they offer up ( in the name of prophecy ) anything that will give their clients the high they need to keep coming back. They have no interest in any real study that would enable people to do bible prophecy on their own. Notice below how each passage VERY CLEARLY states that Israel is not even in the land just prior to the day of the Lord. Obadiah 10 For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever. 11 In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them. 12 But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress. 13 Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamity; 14 Neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his that did escape; neither shouldest thou have delivered up those of his that did remain in the day of distress. 15 For the day of the Lord is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head. Joel 2 3 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, 2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land. 3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink. 4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head; 5 Because ye have taken my silver and my gold, and have carried into your temples my goodly pleasant things: 6 The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border. 7 Behold, I will raise them out of the place whither ye have sold them, and will return your recompence upon your own head: 8 And I will sell your sons and your daughters into the hand of the children of Judah, and they shall sell them to the Sabeans, to a people far off: for the Lord hath spoken it.... 14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision. The prophecy pushers on this sight have no answer with regard to the above. When Israel looses the land they will left fumbling the foot ball not knowing what to do. Gog and magog are real wars yet to be had but will take place at the battle of armagedon. It is the final battle between God and his enemy whom he has spoken of in the prophets . Ezekiel 38: 17 Thus saith the Lord God; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? Before you flip out fritz stop and think. Oh, I'm not going to flip out. Heck, I've been studying this for 40 years. Believe me, I've heard just about every fringe prophecy interpretation ever posited. And I see them posted here all the time. Isn't it amazing that there are millions of believers in Jesus, and we agree on how to be saved, but there are so many diverse opinions on how the end times will play out? At any rate, no worries. I'll stick to my guns. Gog-Magog happens in the first 3 1/2 years of the tribulation, and I personally think it may occur very near the beginning. The vast majority of dispensational bible teachers would agree with me. But, you know, with so many diverse interpretations, inevitably, someone is going to get this wrong. |
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