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Post by brandon on Jan 19, 2018 11:02:53 GMT -6
1 Thessalonians 5:3 - For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. Hehehe... check out the numbers bolded above. Also, "joint heirs" in the Greek gematria = 1071 is equal to 7 x 153. Romans 8:17 - And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. EDIT: Wow! I just found this webpage! The information contained within is awesome, IMO. www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_1071.phpEDIT#2 I cannot resist. I will paste the info below. The Number 1071 Joint-heirs [Rom 8.17] Sunkleronomoi White Robes [Rev 6.11] Stole Leuke Sinless [Jn 8.7] Anamartos Witness
Marturion Worthily [Col 1.10]
Axios But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord [Gen 6.8]
The righteous shall inherit the land [Ps 37.29]
I will keep (Full) [Ps 119.7]
Eshamar Factors: 1071 = 7 x 9 x 17 (Sacrifice)
Most significantly, we have: 1071 = 7 (Perfect) x 153 (The Passover)
This also relates to the Sin Covering: 1071 = 9 x 119 (Sin Covering) Sorry for quoting myself, but I wanted to tie this info together. www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=859Remember the historic vote against Israel? 153 voted against Israel and 7 voted for them! EDIT: Here is a blockbuster read for anyone who has been following this thread. www.theopenscroll.com/number17and153.htmWasn't that link awesome! I am going to go try and find the study referenced to the water being turned to wine, which somehow calculates to 153 in multiple ways. Also, I have heard something about Moses's second ascent up Sinai being 153 days in duration, but have been unable to verify if that's true. EDIT#2 I found it! ... but my 19 month old is waking up from her nap, so I am hoping someone else will read/skim this below link and summarize the good stuff below. www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2006/06-2006/signs-in-john/Thank you for your help!
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Post by witness1 on Jan 19, 2018 15:29:58 GMT -6
1) These numbers are very interesting in light of Gary's recent article. See the graphic at the bottom of his post. We see 17, 7, and 153 here as well. www.unsealed.org/2018/01/fundamental-change-on-temple-mount-less.html2) As a math person, I love the open scroll link. Wow. At first glance, I thought this was a bunch of bunk. But looking more closely, it is quite amazing. 3) I don't remember the vote being 153 to 7. Would like to see a news source with the same number. The number I saw was 128 against with 35 abstentions. Adding those together would be 163. Wondering if this person simply miscalculated. 4) Please everyone keep in mind that God is drawing our attention to these numbers for a reason, but that reason may or may not be the date of the rapture. He has done this in the past, and significant things happened on those days we were watching, but it wasn't the day of our Blessed Hope. Could 1/21 be the rapture? Sure! Could it also be simply another link in the chain? Yes. Lift up your heads either way!!!
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Post by brandon on Jan 19, 2018 15:53:07 GMT -6
The "prophecynewswatch" link that I had provided above has multiple votes mentioned. Here is a cut & paste of the part I was referencing: Of course any "final peace settlement" would mean a "two state solution" that permanently divides the land of Israel into two separate nations. 153 countries voted in favor of this resolution, but fortunately the United States was one of the seven nations that voted against it...
The Assembly adopted a resolution on the peaceful settlement of the question of Palestine (document A/71/L.21) by a recorded vote of 153 in favour to 7 against (Canada, Federated States of Micronesia, Israel, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Palau, United States), with 7 abstentions (Australia, Cameroon, Honduras, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Tonga, Vanuatu). By the terms of the resolution, the Assembly called for the intensification of efforts by the parties, including through negotiations, with the support of the international community, towards the conclusion of a final peace settlement.
Read more at www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=859#rxPYyoUlzKFsezGR.99EDIT: I think I found a download of the UN voted upon document in reference. daccess-ods.un.org/TMP/2336420.86386681.htmlHere is a second source and also seems to be the official one, which mentions the vote results. www.un.org/press/en/2016/ga11861.doc.htm
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Post by witness1 on Jan 19, 2018 16:41:09 GMT -6
I am definitely not a middle east expert, so I'm not sure to what this vote is referring, but I see the date on the UN article is Nov 2016. The prophecynewswatch article at the very end references Obama being in office and hoping he doesn't do something foolish before Trump takes office. Not that these numbers aren't still interesting, but this is a different event than the 12/21/17 vote against Jerusalem. Maybe someone with more Middle East knowledge can weigh in as to these 2 different votes.
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Post by fitz on Jan 19, 2018 18:58:20 GMT -6
www.un.org/webcast/pdfs/SRES2334-2016.pdfI believe this was the issue voted on by the Security Council on Dec. 23, 2016; Resolution 2334. Obama chose to abstain from voting...thus allowing it to pass. He should have vetoed it, but wanted a last jab at Israel before leaving office. The series of votes by the General Assembly referenced in the article were, I think, votes leading up to Resolution 2334.
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Post by brandon on Jan 19, 2018 19:03:40 GMT -6
The reference to Obama that you mentioned is interesting to me because he did end up stabbing Israel in the back, right before leaving office, by not vetoing a resolution. I don't recall all of the details, but Steve Sewell made a good YouTube video about the "conception comet" lining up with that UN vote.
In my opinion, the conception comet was the first heavenly sign pointing to the 9/23/17 Rev. 12:1-2 date, before even the eclipse. Err... nevermind the blood moon tetrads had their connections too. Anyways, it's interesting to maybe have a way to indirectly tie this into COMET C/2017 E1 (BORISOV).
EDIT: Thanks for the link fitz.
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Post by fitz on Jan 19, 2018 20:05:56 GMT -6
Yep. It's this one. Res. 2334.
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Post by brandon on Jan 20, 2018 11:25:33 GMT -6
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Post by witness1 on Jan 20, 2018 14:00:59 GMT -6
I'm in the middle of the video on watchfortheday... I find it interesting that the "Tav" was the mark given to those with zeal for God in Ezekiel 9 who were spared while the rest of the city was destroyed. Thinking of the 144,000 who will be sealed with the mark of God.
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Post by davewatchman on Jan 20, 2018 15:10:09 GMT -6
Hi brandon, I was reviewing the things that i was looking into just before the 1/21 discovery had come up, and i found something else. Witness 1 said something about: "Could it also be simply another link in the chain? Yes. I think that's an excellent way to put it, and i definitely think that 1/21 is a "link" in the chain. It might be a big link or an unseen link. We still don't get to see everything, right? We might be in a 21 day delay, but we're not going to see an angel ascending from the east with the seal of the living God. Daniel couldn't see Gabriel fighting with the prince of Persia for the 21 days either. I think there's something else going on. I don't know what it is or would rather not say, but i see some other odd numerical coincidences coming up between some dates. Too many of them. I don't know what's going to happen on those days. And i doubt that these could be random. And it makes me question what others are thinking right now. But I don't want to confuse the issue here or give away what might be the real deal. If nothing happens that we can see on 1/21, what would be the next day or time of interest? I think boraddict was talking about the 70 year anniversary of Israel becoming a nation state: But i have something else in mind. And i'm curious if someone else will find it too. The guy in the link you posted looked like he was getting close to it when he mentioned: Just review, or keep in mind, the Bible's use of thirds, it seems to be an identifier of God's methodology. They will know that it is the Lord who has spoken in His Zeal. When each of the thirds are destroyed from Revelation 8, the people will then know that it is the Lord who has spoken in His Zeal. The fire remained concealed during the second watch. The people are divided into three companies. The empty jars have torches put into them. The fire will remain concealed until just like the day that Lot left out from Sodom. So will it be on the day when the Son of Man is revealed. Take the 1260 day span and divide it into three thirds, three watches of 420 days. Then take one of the 420s, and split that into three thirds of 140 days. If we are going to be spared one third of a 420, (140), the barley will be ready 280 days before the sun is "darkened" and the moon will not give her light. I don't think i'm looking at a coincidence here. 70+70+280 = the "darkened" sun. There's a couple of youtube guys that make a good case for the great tribulation being just a year in duration, or even a bit less than a year. Because of the "days of Noah", the thing that Jesus was talking about when He said: "for then there will be great tribulation", couldn't really be any longer in time than the number of days Noah spent inside the ark. Those days needed to be cut short. This is probably not talking about the whole of the 42 months of Revelation 13, or the whole 1260 days of Daniel 12. "For from now on in one house there will be five divided, three against two and two against three.
2 divided by three = 0.66666666666
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Post by brandon on Jan 20, 2018 18:07:56 GMT -6
I find it interesting that you mention the tribulation only being able to be 1 year in duration. Have you heard of "The Rapture Puzzle" on YouTube by Renee "Moses"?
I don't agree with Renee regarding who will be taken in the rapture, because I believe all those baptized into the body of Christ will be raptured, but her diligence tracking and connecting biblical dots revolving around Obama having already committed "the abomination of desolation" is very interesting. If she is correct, then we are already well into Daniel's 70th week and the world has been hanging by a thread on God's delayed mercy.
Her puzzle ideas led up to the date 40 days before 1/21/18, which was when the big Palestinian group voted against Israel and she was waiting for something big to occur during that timeframe. After it happen, (recall the 40 days to repent story with Jonah and the 40 days to repent before all of congress bowed in prayed at just the right day in her "puzzle") she was lead to the 1/21/18 date.
In fact, she was the 1st source I heard speculating 1/21/18 as a possible rapture date. Anyways, part of her theory is the tribulation has been shortened to 1 year. I have studied her stuff for several years now and will vouch that she has done her homework to back up her theories.
Unfortunately, the vidoes she makes does not do justice to her ideas and lack most of the really good facts backing up her thoughts.
Anyways, no... I have no other ideas in mind at this time. If this date is just a connecting chain piece, then I would hope to see something happen that would correlate to the (1/3) of the stars falling. Preferably that is hopefully not a reference to ICBM's! =) Hehehe... j/k. Don't take that seriously.
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Post by witness1 on Jan 20, 2018 18:58:43 GMT -6
I did see part of that video you are speaking of. I agree she has some interesting ideas.
Matthew seems to correlate the abomination with the command to flee, and Luke correlates the command to flee with Jerusalem being surrounded by armies and that its desloaltion has come near. So it seems like her ideas that Obama had already committed the desolation doesn’t line up to me. Perhaps there are multiple fulfillments though because I do find it curious that her dates are lining up with others. Thoughts?
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Post by brandon on Jan 20, 2018 20:43:39 GMT -6
I did see part of that video you are speaking of. I agree she has some interesting ideas. Matthew seems to correlate the abomination with the command to flee, and Luke correlates the command to flee with Jerusalem being surrounded by armies and that its desloaltion has come near. So it seems like her ideas that Obama had already committed the desolation doesn’t line up to me. Perhaps there are multiple fulfillments though because I do find it curious that her dates are lining up with others. Thoughts? Matthew and Luke may not be about the same events. Here is one event to consider. This is a quote from the Rapture Puzzle book, which I would recommend over diving straight into the videos. "Maccabees led the revolt against Antiochus IV, after the abomination took place and they fled into the mountains for 3 years. The women and young children were slaughtered on the first Sabbath during winter."Here is a link to the book, if you want to read it. yearofjubilee2017.webs.com/the-rapture-puzzle-bookAlso, this video caused me to have the idea that these verses may be referring to different events. Regardless, there could be still yet again another fulfillment.
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Post by davewatchman on Jan 20, 2018 20:52:22 GMT -6
I find it interesting that you mention the tribulation only being able to be 1 year in duration. Have you heard of "The Rapture Puzzle" on YouTube by Renee "Moses"? I don't agree with Renee regarding who will be taken in the rapture, because I believe all those baptized into the body of Christ will be raptured, but her diligence tracking and connecting biblical dots revolving around Obama having already committed "the abomination of desolation" is very interesting. If she is correct, then we are already well into Daniel's 70th week and the world has been hanging by a thread on God's delayed mercy. Her puzzle ideas led up to the date 40 days before 1/21/18, which was when the big Palestinian group voted against Israel and she was waiting for something big to occur during that timeframe. After it happen, (recall the 40 days to repent story with Jonah and the 40 days to repent before all of congress bowed in prayed at just the right day in her "puzzle") she was lead to the 1/21/18 date. In fact, she was the 1st source I heard speculating 1/21/18 as a possible rapture date. Anyways, part of her theory is the tribulation has been shortened to 1 year. I have studied her stuff for several years now and will vouch that she has done her homework to back up her theories. Unfortunately, the vidoes she makes does not do justice to her ideas and lack most of the really good facts backing up her thoughts. Anyways, no... I have no other ideas in mind at this time. If this date is just a connecting chain piece, then I would hope to see something happen that would correlate to the (1/3) of the stars falling. Preferably that is hopefully not a reference to ICBM's! =) Hehehe... j/k. Don't take that seriously. Yes, i did see "The Rapture Puzzle" on YouTube by Renee "Moses". She has a nice voice. When i first heard her, i thought she was a little kid reading something her dad wrote. But she seems like a hard worker. I didn't agree with her AofD theory though. I started to get the one year tribulation idea in the summer of 2015. 37 days after the third moon of the tetrad. Some people, me included, were positive that we were in the appointed time of the end. But nothing seemed to happen like we thought it would. I like this guy from the first video, he's a nice guy. In the first five minutes he mentions a one year tribulation, just like in the days of Noah. This is a newer video i just found. It's one that you have to read so i'd turn the volume down. But it's not bad, the author makes some good points. He talks about a one year tribulation in the days of Noah style about 3:30 minutes in.
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Post by brandon on Jan 21, 2018 6:57:25 GMT -6
Thanks for the videos.
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