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Post by brandon on Jan 13, 2018 16:54:06 GMT -6
11/13/17 ... Wasn't that the Jupiter Venus conjunction?! Checked - Yes... yes is was. Cool, I didn't realize that was 70 back from 1/21/18. Thanks for sharing the 1st, 2nd, 3rd watch info too. Here is a link to Daniel Matson's chart that lead up to 11/13/17. watchfortheday.org/morningstar.htmlI think these verses may be relevant. Exodus 241And he said unto Moses, Come up unto the LORD, thou, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel; and worship ye afar off. 2And Moses alone shall come near the LORD: but they shall not come nigh; neither shall the people go up with him. 3And Moses came and told the people all the words of the LORD, and all the judgments: and all the people answered with one voice, and said, All the words which the LORD hath said will we do. 4And Moses wrote all the words of the LORD, and rose up early in the morning, and builded an altar under the hill, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel. 5And he sent young men of the children of Israel, which offered burnt offerings, and sacrificed peace offerings of oxen unto the LORD. 6And Moses took half of the blood, and put it in basons; and half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar. 7And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD hath said will we do, and be obedient. 8And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the LORD hath made with you concerning all these words. 9Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: 10And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. 11And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink. Notice the mention of 70 elders being taken up to receive the covenant. If Daniel Matson's idea is right about God (not the anti-christ) being the one who will "confirm the covenant", (such as the covenant received in the above verses!), then it's interesting to think that 70 days after the finality of the rapture story "sung in the heavens", we might come to the day where God confirms to his chosen people that they are his people. watchfortheday.org/whoishe.htmlThe above link is Daniel Matson's write up that I was thinking about with God confirming the covenant. |
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Post by brandon on Jan 13, 2018 19:22:54 GMT -6
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Post by witness1 on Jan 13, 2018 20:40:21 GMT -6
This is an interesting theory for sure. Especially in light of schooldad3 's theory about the sign of the dragon ending on 1/18 and that signifying the rise of the beast. I just watched a video from Parable of the Vineyard about 1/21 and the idea that the 1/3 of the stars are cast to earth BEFORE the manchild is caught up. I wonder if we will see something regarding the dragon or these stars cast to earth on 1/18 and then have 3 days to prepare to meet the Lord. "So Moses came and called the elders of the people and set before them all these words that the Lord had commanded him. All the people answered together and said, 'All that the LORD has spoken we will do.' And Moses reported the words of the people to the LORD. And the LORD said to Moses, 'Behold, I am coming to you in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with you, and may also believe you forever.' When Moses told the words of the people to the LORD, the LORD said to Moses, 'Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow, and let them wash their garments and be ready for the third day. For on the third day the LORD will come down on Mount Sinai in the sight of all the people... So Moses went down from the mountain to the people and consecrated the people; and they washed their garments. And he said to the people, ' Be ready for the third day; do not go near a woman.' On the morning of the third day there were thunders and lightnings and a thick cloud on the mountain and a very loud trumpet blast, so that all the people in the camp trembled. Then Moses brought the people out of the camp to meet God, and they took their stand at the foot of the mountain. Now Mount Sinai was wrapped in smoke because the LORD had descended on it in fire. The smoke of it went up like the smoke of a kiln, and the whole mountain trembled greatly. And as the sound of the trumpet grew louder and louder, Moses spoke, and God answered him in thunder. The LORD came down on Mount Sinai, to the top of the mountain. And the LORD called Moses to the top of the mountain, and Moses went up." Exodus 19:7-20 Just tossing out ideas here. I still think the last day of the Sinai episode is significant and corresponds to the Acts Pentecost and the rapture, but this 3 day thing jumped out at me so sharing in case it sparks an idea for someone. |
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Post by brandon on Jan 13, 2018 21:04:06 GMT -6
This link lists many verses connecting with "3 days if darkness." www.google.com/amp/s/ichoosemyeternitynow.wordpress.com/2017/05/07/3days/amp/#ampshare=https://ichoosemyeternitynow.wordpress.com/2017/05/07/3days/I once heard a preacher quoted as saying, "as the bombs are decending, the saints will be ascending." For some reason my mind wanted to replace that with, "while the stars are descending, the saints will be ascending." =) hehehe... Regardless, if the stars (specifically 1/3 of them) do not give their light on the 18th/19th, 19th/20th, 20th/21st and we get raptured on the 21st, then that would be an interesting fulfillment of the 3 days of darkness references. EDIT: I don't believe the stars falling fulfillment can happen until we are already raptured, due to the following verses. Specifically, verse 17 seems to connect the events in the above verses to the coming or start of God's wrath, right? Revelations 6:12-1712And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? |
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Post by witness1 on Jan 13, 2018 21:13:46 GMT -6
What I am wondering is whether we will see demonic activity/aliens. People have said, "we go up when they come down." But according to Rev 12:4,9, it looks like they come down with the dragon and stand before the woman and then the child is caught up sometime later. In some ways, I hope we see something. My unsaved friend says she hopes God will give her evidence that she can't deny. I hope so too! I keep wondering what the point of all this watching is for. He told us to watch, and my personality is one to gravitate toward things like this, but to what purpose? In a lot of ways, I hope something happens that will give us an opportunity to explain things and preach the Word. The world around me is not listening right now.
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Post by brandon on Jan 13, 2018 21:23:53 GMT -6
I would hope for that too witness1. A great last minute revival prompted by some miraculous sign sounds nice, but then I would argue that we have already being given "a great wonder in heaven" and most people still are not listening... Most will be caught like a thief in the night. =*( In my opinion, evidence doesn't bring people to faith in the shed blood of Christ, only God does. Nevertheless, as part of his body we have a great opportunity to share the Word of Truth with others. Maybe something in these links would peek your friend's curiosity to reconsider. www.khouse.org/articles_cat/2017/technical/biblecodes/ |
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Post by witness1 on Jan 13, 2018 21:32:51 GMT -6
I just read the article about God confirming the covenant. Wow! I never thought the antichrist covenant idea made much sense. Especially not a peace treaty. But God confirming His covenant with Israel makes sense.
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Post by witness1 on Jan 13, 2018 21:35:23 GMT -6
I would hope for that too witness1. A great last minute revival prompted my some miraculous sign sounds nice, but then I would argue that we have already being given "a great wonder in heaven" and most people still are not listening... Most will be caught like a thief in the night. =*( In my opinion, evidence doesn't bring people to faith in the shed blood of Christ, only God does. Nevertheless, as part of his body we have a great opportunity to share the Word of Truth with others. Maybe something in these links would peek your friend curiosity to reconsider. www.khouse.org/articles_cat/2017/technical/biblecodes/Yes! She is in His hands. I can do nothing apart from His spirit moving within her, and I can only rest in the truth that He is good and He is in control. I will check out those links. Thank you! |
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Post by brandon on Jan 13, 2018 21:37:37 GMT -6
While we are talking about the gospel, here are my favorite resources to share with anyone who will listen. This 1st link is to a .pdf download of a book that has blessed my life, by giving me a better understanding of salvation. I think I have read it at least a dozen times and I am always comforted by renewing my understanding of God's message of grace. DOWNLOAD LINK, graceindiaministry.org/admin/files/Book%2001%20DICTIONARY%20OF%20THE%20GOSPEL.pdf Alternatively, I really like this video by Robert Breaker called “Misunderstanding Salvation,” which I would recommend to anyone whose faith does not rest fully/completely/solely on the atonement of Jesus Christ, believing that God will save them through the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross, who died, was buried and rose again for our sins. Ephesians 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; |
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Post by witness1 on Jan 13, 2018 21:38:47 GMT -6
I also like your idea that the "white for harvest" may be about us. If you look at the other times that word "white" is used, it is the white stone, the white horse, white robes, etc. There may be something there!
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Post by witness1 on Jan 13, 2018 21:39:55 GMT -6
Such great resources. Thank you!
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Post by witness1 on Jan 13, 2018 21:51:46 GMT -6
This link lists many verses connecting with "3 days if darkness." www.google.com/amp/s/ichoosemyeternitynow.wordpress.com/2017/05/07/3days/amp/#ampshare=https://ichoosemyeternitynow.wordpress.com/2017/05/07/3days/I once heard a preacher quoted as saying, "as the bombs are decending, the saints will be ascending." For some reason my mind wanted to replace that with, "while the stars are descending, the saints will be ascending." =) hehehe... Regardless, if the stars (specifically 1/3 of them) do not give their light on the 18th/19th, 19th/20th, 20th/21st and we get raptured on the 21st, then that would be an interesting fulfillment of the 3 days of darkness references. EDIT: I don't believe the stars falling fulfillment can happen until we are already rapture, due to the following verses. Specifically, verses 17 seems to connect the events in the above verses to the coming or start of God's wrath, right? Revelations 6:12-1712And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Based on these articles from Greg Lauer, I'm back to thinking Jesus opens the seals at the beginning of the tribulation instead of being in the 4th/5th seal now. They're long but I think they're worth it. He has given me so much encouragement! www.alittlestrength.com/articles/2017/1711-elders-revisited.htmwww.alittlestrength.com/articles/2017/1712-missing-piece.htm |
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Post by brandon on Jan 13, 2018 22:56:14 GMT -6
I just read those links and agree with his conclusion that the 24 elders are the raptured church. Nice! That was my assumption before, but know I feel like I have something to stand on for that assumption.
It's almost midnight for me, so I am probably not thinking straight, but does the little book opened by the lamb have to detail only future events, from the point in time of it's opening? =/
Just a wild idea with no rhyme or reason for being presented, but perhaps the book's contents contained information of both past and future events? Ok, I am heading to sleep... I'm to tried to try and even think through the answer to my own question.
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Post by witness1 on Jan 13, 2018 23:03:02 GMT -6
That's my take. Greg's point is that Jesus will transition (in role) from being priest to king (although He is king now...) when He stands to take the scroll. So everything on that scroll would be future. But yes, it's midnight in Annapolis too and I should go to bed! I have to tell myself this nightly:
It is in vain that you rise up early and go late to rest, eating the bread of anxious toil; for he gives to his beloved sleep. Psalm 127:2
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Post by brandon on Jan 14, 2018 6:52:01 GMT -6
I just googled 1/21/18 to see if anything interesting might pop up and found this link. www.usccb.org/bible/readings/012118.cfmI thought the verses scheduled to be read may be quite fitting for those hearing them. |
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