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Post by fitz on Jan 14, 2018 7:10:48 GMT -6
I also like your idea that the "white for harvest" may be about us. If you look at the other times that word "white" is used, it is the white stone, the white horse, white robes, etc. There may be something there! Ha! I looked up "white" in the KJV and got.. .70 Bible results for “white.”
Strong's Number G3022 matches the Greek λευκός (leukos),
which occurs 25 times in 23 verses in the Greek concordance of the KJV
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
light, bright, brilliant
brilliant from whiteness, (dazzling) white
of the garments of angels, and of those exalted to the splendour of the heavenly state
shining or white garments worn on festive or state occasions
of white garments as the sign of innocence and purity of the soul
dead white
of the whitening colour of ripening grain
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Post by brandon on Jan 14, 2018 9:06:39 GMT -6
That is an interesting note of there being 70 references to white!
I read the last verse about "white" in the link you provided and noticed the 120 number again. These guys had harps, which made me think of what witness1 and I were posting about yesterday with the 24 elders mentioned in Revelations. Finally, the verse after mentions the glory of God being a cloud, which reminds me of the rapture cloud references.
2 Chronicles 5:12-13
Also the Levites which were the singers, all of them of Asaph, of Heman, of Jeduthun, with their sons and their brethren, being arrayed in white linen, having cymbals and psalteries and harps, stood at the east end of the altar, and with them an hundred and twenty priests sounding with trumpets:)
It came even to pass, as the trumpeters and singers were as one, to make one sound to be heard in praising and thanking the LORD; and when they lifted up their voice with the trumpets and cymbals and instruments of musick, and praised the LORD, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: that then the house was filled with a cloud, even the house of the LORD;
1 Thessalonians 4:17 - Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Thanks for the info fitz.
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Post by davewatchman on Jan 14, 2018 9:53:22 GMT -6
I just googled 1/21/18 to see if anything interesting might pop up and found this link. www.usccb.org/bible/readings/012118.cfmI thought the verses scheduled to be read may be quite fitting for those hearing them. I googled it as soon as i heard about 1/21. I did it and i still do it to get a feel for how popular the idea is. Remember last year there were loads of youtube videos with people saying the rapture could be on Hanukkah or Christmas. I don't really see too much excitement this time, maybe that's a good thing? I think about this thread all the time since it came out. I meant to tell kmboitae that i liked the video he posted. The people seemed humble, just everyday regular people. I liked what the woman said about we all might have a piece of the puzzle. I think that the appointed time of the end started already, but not everything was what they told us it would be. The falling away, the man of sin taking his seat and the abomination of desolation were meant for the reader to understand. But when Jesus said: "for then there would be great tribulation", He probably was not talking about the whole of the 1260 day time span. Because it's the worst time ever, since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall be.. The flood in Noah's days was the only worst time that there's ever been until now. Estimates of the tribulation of those days can range from 364.5 to 378 days that Noah spent inside the ark. Genesis 7 seemed to be very particular of the timing of that event. Why is Genesis so careful to record the exact days and dates concerning the flood. In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month—on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened. This might seem like a peculiar thing to record. And it persists throughout the story - further dates are given in 8:4, 8:5, 8:13, and 8:14. No other dates are recorded like this in Genesis as best I can tell. So I doubt that our end time time of trouble could possibly be of any greater duration of days otherwise no flesh would be saved alive. I still can count 365 days until January 21, and after that i will have to continue looking. Good job on spotting the 11/13, which could also be 11/12. Either one works for me. Because the first people on the planet to see the "darkened" sun will be on a Saturday on around 11PM. The last people to see it conclude will be somewhere else on Earth on a Sunday at around 4AM. This gives me a little wiggle room and even if i'm right about the "darkened" sun and moon that will not give her light, i still can't know which day or hour  |
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Post by brandon on Jan 14, 2018 10:02:49 GMT -6
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Post by brandon on Jan 15, 2018 8:38:07 GMT -6
Check out these verses in Luke.
Luke 10:1-2
1 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
2Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
I think the 70 number goes well with this thread, as we have found there to be 70 Bible verses with the word white "leukos", which has been hopefully connected to 4 month's before the harvest festival of Pentacost, which may have been what Jesus was referencing, when he said the harvest would be ready 4 months before the harvest is said to be ready.
Don't forget our other finding that the symbolic finish of the "Rev. 12 Sign's story" with the Jupiter/Venus conjunction on 11/13/17, comes 70 days before 1/21/18.
I am excited! 153, 120, 70. God is awesome. I so hope to see him face to face this coming weekend. Granted my heart goes out to the lost, but I believe every single one of his sheep will hear his voice. Not a single one will slip out of his hand.
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Post by brandon on Jan 15, 2018 20:20:51 GMT -6
Anyone else recall Gary's "coincidence" post about Trump that was featured on Unsealed? www.unsealed.org/2017/07/trump-and-putin-meet-on-7717-another.html?m=1I read an interesting idea from a post on watchman on the wall about 1/21/18. Consider the following verses. Luke 13:5-9 5I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. 6He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. 7Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? 8And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: 9And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down. I idea was that Trump's presidency may correlate to the "let it alone this year" while the fig tree is spared for 1 more year, before potentially being cut down. Trump was inaugurated on 1/20/2017, so 1/21/18 would be the 1st full day of his second year in office. Also, I have no qualms at all identifying the prior 3 years as bearing no fruit, with Obama at the helm. Another interesting verse in Luke that may be relevant is the following: Luke 10:18 18And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. www.jimseekamp.com/obama.htmThe above posted article makes a case that this verse may specifically point us to the name of the former president. Also, let's not forget Gary's artical on Obama. www.unsealed.org/2013/01/is-obama-candidate-for-ac.html?showComment=1359521413752&m=1I certainly don't know if he is the anti-christ or just has a spirit of anti-christ, but him and the A.I. robot with the greek name of wisdom, a.k.a. Sophia, are potential candidates in my opinion. Revelations 13:1818Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. |
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Post by brandon on Jan 16, 2018 3:16:20 GMT -6
1 Thessalonians 5:3 - For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. Hehehe... check out the numbers bolded above. Also, "joint heirs" in the Greek gematria = 1071 is equal to 7 x 153. Romans 8:17 - And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. EDIT: Wow! I just found this webpage! The information contained within is awesome, IMO. www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_1071.phpEDIT#2 I cannot resist. I will paste the info below. All of the below words have a value of 1071 or 153 × 7. Joint-heirs [Rom 8.17] Sunkleronomoi White Robes [Rev 6.11] Stole Leuke Sinless [Jn 8.7] Anamartos Witness
Marturion
Worthily [Col 1.10]
Axios
But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord [Gen 6.8]
The righteous shall inherit the land [Ps 37.29]
I will keep (Full) [Ps 119.7]
Eshamar
Factors: 1071 = 7 x 9 x 17 (Sacrifice)
Most significantly, we have: 1071 = 7 (Perfect) x 153 (The Passover)
This also relates to the Sin Covering: 1071 = 9 x 119 (Sin Covering)
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Post by stormyknight on Jan 16, 2018 11:53:36 GMT -6
Revelations 13:1818 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. You know, if you replace the word 'wisdom' with 'sofia' in that verse, in light of today's news about that A.I. robot named Sophia, it really is kind of spooky. |
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Post by witness1 on Jan 17, 2018 0:49:12 GMT -6
I’m not usually into gematria, but this verse seems to be saying to use it. Could it be something as simple as the Greek word for “robot”?
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Post by brandon on Jan 17, 2018 5:00:46 GMT -6
Hehehe... how could there be a Greek word for robot?
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Post by witness1 on Jan 17, 2018 8:30:25 GMT -6
The same way there’s an English word for robot. I’m not saying there was a word for robot at the time the Bible was written, but Greek is still around today and I’m sure they have a word just like we do.
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Post by tliml on Jan 17, 2018 10:51:55 GMT -6
Google Translate:
robot---->ρομπότ
(rompót)
Not sure what the significance of this is?
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Post by yardstick on Jan 17, 2018 11:13:01 GMT -6
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Post by witness1 on Jan 17, 2018 13:24:37 GMT -6
Google Translate: robot---->ρομπότ (rompót) Not sure what the significance of this is? Yeah, I have no idea how gematria works. I always thought it was dumb, but I admit I am seeing some things spelled out even though I am firmly against using to affect any sort of theology or hope. Just throwing out an idea for people who are into this and understand how it works since this verse seems to say we are to somehow calculate the number of the beast. |
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Post by brandon on Jan 17, 2018 16:07:05 GMT -6
I am not into gematria either and Bible codes based on a HNS (hebrew numeric skip) value, fall into the same catagory for me. My mind is simply not able to grasp them fully, so I tend to glaze over them, even though what I have seen and read makes me feel that they are not coincidence.
Nevertheless, consider the following verses.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Colossians 1:18-19
18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
19For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
In my opinion, "the Word was made flesh" implies that the Bible is every bit as much Jesus, as the "flesh and blood that he became for us was Jesus. Therefore, knowing that Jesus is God, and that God is omniscient, I don't think it takes much faith to believe that the Word contains just as much acknowledge as God himself.
That means the Word (notice the capital letter) has to contain everything! How could such knowledge be possible? Well, my speculation is that an infinite number of functions/algorithms/name your fancy math permutation here, can be applied to God's Word, to yield all knowledge.
The bottom line for me is that we see through a darkened glass and don't get the whole picture right now. Nevertheless, we can still get a glimpse of the Word's limitless truth, through mathematically observed outcomes such as gematria and bible codes, but interpreting such information correctly is a whole other story. It'll all work out for us in the end.
1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
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