Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 4, 2017 9:31:01 GMT -6
The question was asked...generally I have an 'academic' request that you please explain the rationale behind what I will call a 'compressed' bowl/vial judgement time window in your timeline. I see in the timeline you posted it is only a few days.
I think many who are pre-trib would probably consider an 'even distribution' of judgments through the 7 year time period.
I suspect that even mid-trib or pre-wrath would also expect a chronologically even distribution of time between judgments in that judgement period.
Thanks in advance.
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So allow me to isolate this important question... for any interested.
The Last seven years are broken up into two parts.. Daniel 9:27, Rev 12, 6, 12, etc etc... with the last part being the Great Tribulation, and it lasts exactly 1260 days, 42 months, time, times and dividing of time, a very exact and many times to, referred to length of time.
As Jesus stated, Mathew 24 15, 21..... we are to look for the placing of the abomination of Desolation in the Holy Place before we flee to the mountains under the earthly leadership of our Two Christian Prophets also called Witnesses. Then comes the Rapture.
So lets start back at the beginning of the Last 7 years, as that is when the Covenant is signed to stop the insane wars, that have started again. This time over Iran, Lebanon, back to the refugee camp called Gaza.... The Covenant of Daniel is signed by exactly ten countries, ten horns, ten kings as mentioned in numerous places. This stops the war into developing into a complete WW3, and complete nucleur war. Thats for later on, not at the signing of the Covenant..... The Beast destroying the Whore, Russia negating the States in one hour Rev 16 etc... happens after the Covenant signing, after the Jewsih Priesthood again start their sacrificng before the 3rd Temple.
OK step back again because you also have to understand the 3rd Temple which has to be built on the Temple Mount, as they just recently prepared the oil for their rituals, in their upcoming Temple (SEE current events..Temple Mount Org etc..) This is a TOPIC unto itself, and deals with the second date of a 7 year timeline. As at and during that period there is a peace between combatants. The prince of the Covenant has solved the issues and the Jewish priesthood gets the security measures needed to ensure their construction will not be torn down or exploded or terrorized.... and so the first part of the Last 7 Years is reasonably peaceful except that the West continues to create wars for their economies sake.
Nevertheless the sacrificing before the Temple starts 2300 days before the Rapture, or 255 days after the Covenant signing... from my timeline this would be significantly on the Passover April 24, 2019. Seems like a reasonable timing for the Jews to consider SIGNING as well as nine other countries.
But as mentioned with time, other wars start to break out, and the Western powers seem to dividing and BREAKING the Covenant of the Prince of the Covenant. (Therefore we have to also study and discern about the Prince of the Covenant and why the Russian AC removes him... for down the road, surely at or near the middle point, things get so out of hand, the nuclear war breaks out, and within an hour, three horns are broken, three toes are removed, three kings are negated, three countries are defeated in a unilateral nucleur war (because Russian obviously has developed a nuclear shield. It lasts only one hour (Rev. 17).
(Hence you can note that your timelines also have to have the Whore and Beast one hour battle on your timeline)
For this is the beginning of sorrows but is strictly lets say man made... mean while we are also having earthquakes, and many man made diseases among the nations, but the nuclear war is a finale where the ten are brought down to seven..... and the seven shall see they can not fight the Beast and shall give their power and strength to the LITTLE HORN (or Russian A.C. Why because who can fight the Beast... no one, no country as the major nuclear nations have been defeated and are no more and in total chaos. They are not a factor in the End Times or lets say the second half of the LAST 7 YEARS.
For it is only after, the nuclear war that Israel would allow the AC to march in and take Jerusalem so their military ruler or president or AC can sit in the temple and pretend he is RULER OF THE WORLD. Israel will surely put up some resistance but they no longer have a protector..so the AC goes and sits in the Temple, he has stopped the sacrificing. Why because he says he is GOD. (2 Thessalonians 1,2) (So again on your timeline you have to denote the start and stop of sacrificing before the Temple, the AC entry, and then a 30 day gap to set up the abomination of desolation.
Mind you, Jesus said, the AD... has to stand up, the computer that sends out directions to the MARKED ONES of the AC, has to be stood up, installed to talk to everyone worldwide, the ultimate A.I. This accessed through the forced chip of the AC, and that process does take a month according to the time frames. (Again do place the Abomination timing on your timeline, as it is specifically identified by our Lord as the timing when we are to exodus, out of the area called Israel.... (and head to Petra) Mathew 24:15
This verse also verifying that the book of Daniel is all important as Jesus confirms the prophecy of all of Daniel.... and the abomination of desolation that isolates and destroys. Daniel 9:27 etc.
OK... so we are out of Israel, because we have foreknwledge and are part of the 144,000..... we are Christians, we have experiences and faith with the Lord as our quide and protector, and we shall be welocming for a short time all those of every other nation religion, etc around the world (Rev..etc) including any Jews who receive the Lord and pass the entrance tests of the Lord (Passing under the shepherds Rod). For we are one and equal, no one is special or above anyone else... its all by GRACE FROM JESUS. No one gets a free pass without having had chosen the CHOSEN ONE..JESUS)
So together as one we flee or EXODUS across the Jordan and down the Kings highway, the greatest Exodus. Why because all past history was just a minor foreshadowing of this the GREATEST EXODUS, the greatest miracles, and the greatest fight for the Lord. WE are the 144,000, again I repeat, those that have been washed in the blood of the Lamb, and chosen the CHOSEN ONE.
For then starts the uneven distribution and timing of the seven trumpets, for they occur during the following 1260 days.
(I'll try to find you that timeline, as again it is very specifically uneven.... as there are time frames involved, and off hand and out of memory.... I cant recall exactly.... Ill get that for ya's).
But who brings down the seven trumpets. Our Two Prophets or witnesses, as again, they stand before the devil possessed new Pharoah of Egypt (the AC) and like Moses before tell the devil that this or that plague is on the way.... thats why the world hates the 2 prophets and always tries to kill them when they walk up to Jerusalem and the Temple to literally face the AC. (Rev 12, Esdras etc..)
Our king, or military leader or commander in chief, judge as with King David of Old, is rather old, probably 74 by this time, so the trek from Petra, is not one he can accomplish tooo often.... so lets get the dating of those trumpets...... or at least a few of the uneven time frames in the next post. Its about 140 miles distance....
Onward Christian Soldiers....as the greatest story ever told is not an even distribultion of times and events, but a culmination of events, getting more and more intense as time goes by.... for the GREATEST CLIMAX ever possible, the RETURN of the Lord, and then our RETURN back to Earth and the victorious Battle of Armegeddon.
Thank you Jesus, also called the WORD OF GOD (Revelation 19)
IHS
David
I think many who are pre-trib would probably consider an 'even distribution' of judgments through the 7 year time period.
I suspect that even mid-trib or pre-wrath would also expect a chronologically even distribution of time between judgments in that judgement period.
Thanks in advance.
********************************************
So allow me to isolate this important question... for any interested.
The Last seven years are broken up into two parts.. Daniel 9:27, Rev 12, 6, 12, etc etc... with the last part being the Great Tribulation, and it lasts exactly 1260 days, 42 months, time, times and dividing of time, a very exact and many times to, referred to length of time.
As Jesus stated, Mathew 24 15, 21..... we are to look for the placing of the abomination of Desolation in the Holy Place before we flee to the mountains under the earthly leadership of our Two Christian Prophets also called Witnesses. Then comes the Rapture.
So lets start back at the beginning of the Last 7 years, as that is when the Covenant is signed to stop the insane wars, that have started again. This time over Iran, Lebanon, back to the refugee camp called Gaza.... The Covenant of Daniel is signed by exactly ten countries, ten horns, ten kings as mentioned in numerous places. This stops the war into developing into a complete WW3, and complete nucleur war. Thats for later on, not at the signing of the Covenant..... The Beast destroying the Whore, Russia negating the States in one hour Rev 16 etc... happens after the Covenant signing, after the Jewsih Priesthood again start their sacrificng before the 3rd Temple.
OK step back again because you also have to understand the 3rd Temple which has to be built on the Temple Mount, as they just recently prepared the oil for their rituals, in their upcoming Temple (SEE current events..Temple Mount Org etc..) This is a TOPIC unto itself, and deals with the second date of a 7 year timeline. As at and during that period there is a peace between combatants. The prince of the Covenant has solved the issues and the Jewish priesthood gets the security measures needed to ensure their construction will not be torn down or exploded or terrorized.... and so the first part of the Last 7 Years is reasonably peaceful except that the West continues to create wars for their economies sake.
Nevertheless the sacrificing before the Temple starts 2300 days before the Rapture, or 255 days after the Covenant signing... from my timeline this would be significantly on the Passover April 24, 2019. Seems like a reasonable timing for the Jews to consider SIGNING as well as nine other countries.
But as mentioned with time, other wars start to break out, and the Western powers seem to dividing and BREAKING the Covenant of the Prince of the Covenant. (Therefore we have to also study and discern about the Prince of the Covenant and why the Russian AC removes him... for down the road, surely at or near the middle point, things get so out of hand, the nuclear war breaks out, and within an hour, three horns are broken, three toes are removed, three kings are negated, three countries are defeated in a unilateral nucleur war (because Russian obviously has developed a nuclear shield. It lasts only one hour (Rev. 17).
(Hence you can note that your timelines also have to have the Whore and Beast one hour battle on your timeline)
For this is the beginning of sorrows but is strictly lets say man made... mean while we are also having earthquakes, and many man made diseases among the nations, but the nuclear war is a finale where the ten are brought down to seven..... and the seven shall see they can not fight the Beast and shall give their power and strength to the LITTLE HORN (or Russian A.C. Why because who can fight the Beast... no one, no country as the major nuclear nations have been defeated and are no more and in total chaos. They are not a factor in the End Times or lets say the second half of the LAST 7 YEARS.
For it is only after, the nuclear war that Israel would allow the AC to march in and take Jerusalem so their military ruler or president or AC can sit in the temple and pretend he is RULER OF THE WORLD. Israel will surely put up some resistance but they no longer have a protector..so the AC goes and sits in the Temple, he has stopped the sacrificing. Why because he says he is GOD. (2 Thessalonians 1,2) (So again on your timeline you have to denote the start and stop of sacrificing before the Temple, the AC entry, and then a 30 day gap to set up the abomination of desolation.
Mind you, Jesus said, the AD... has to stand up, the computer that sends out directions to the MARKED ONES of the AC, has to be stood up, installed to talk to everyone worldwide, the ultimate A.I. This accessed through the forced chip of the AC, and that process does take a month according to the time frames. (Again do place the Abomination timing on your timeline, as it is specifically identified by our Lord as the timing when we are to exodus, out of the area called Israel.... (and head to Petra) Mathew 24:15
This verse also verifying that the book of Daniel is all important as Jesus confirms the prophecy of all of Daniel.... and the abomination of desolation that isolates and destroys. Daniel 9:27 etc.
OK... so we are out of Israel, because we have foreknwledge and are part of the 144,000..... we are Christians, we have experiences and faith with the Lord as our quide and protector, and we shall be welocming for a short time all those of every other nation religion, etc around the world (Rev..etc) including any Jews who receive the Lord and pass the entrance tests of the Lord (Passing under the shepherds Rod). For we are one and equal, no one is special or above anyone else... its all by GRACE FROM JESUS. No one gets a free pass without having had chosen the CHOSEN ONE..JESUS)
So together as one we flee or EXODUS across the Jordan and down the Kings highway, the greatest Exodus. Why because all past history was just a minor foreshadowing of this the GREATEST EXODUS, the greatest miracles, and the greatest fight for the Lord. WE are the 144,000, again I repeat, those that have been washed in the blood of the Lamb, and chosen the CHOSEN ONE.
For then starts the uneven distribution and timing of the seven trumpets, for they occur during the following 1260 days.
(I'll try to find you that timeline, as again it is very specifically uneven.... as there are time frames involved, and off hand and out of memory.... I cant recall exactly.... Ill get that for ya's).
But who brings down the seven trumpets. Our Two Prophets or witnesses, as again, they stand before the devil possessed new Pharoah of Egypt (the AC) and like Moses before tell the devil that this or that plague is on the way.... thats why the world hates the 2 prophets and always tries to kill them when they walk up to Jerusalem and the Temple to literally face the AC. (Rev 12, Esdras etc..)
Our king, or military leader or commander in chief, judge as with King David of Old, is rather old, probably 74 by this time, so the trek from Petra, is not one he can accomplish tooo often.... so lets get the dating of those trumpets...... or at least a few of the uneven time frames in the next post. Its about 140 miles distance....
Onward Christian Soldiers....as the greatest story ever told is not an even distribultion of times and events, but a culmination of events, getting more and more intense as time goes by.... for the GREATEST CLIMAX ever possible, the RETURN of the Lord, and then our RETURN back to Earth and the victorious Battle of Armegeddon.
Thank you Jesus, also called the WORD OF GOD (Revelation 19)
IHS
David