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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 5, 2017 15:02:23 GMT -6
So I have to leave this and get back to work so I am working on a Probate upstairs in my office and my mind keeps seeing all those red fifties. and I am working on expenses of the decedent and it was $12.50 for a certification, "50?" then I had the thought...what is in Psalm fifty?
Some say I have adult attention disorder, so I go and read this Psalm to see if it has anything to do with the potential end of Pentecost count rapture...
BINGO - WE SOON SHALL BE CALLED HOME!
(A Psalm of Asaph.) The mighty God, even the LORD, hath spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the going down thereof. (to me this means the rapture call will happen at the same time all over the earth) 2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, (here comes Jesus, our perfection of beauty, coming right out of the throne room the real one in heavenly Zion) God hath shined. (that Pentecost middle branch again) 3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: (how about the second and last trump of God? That won't be silent!) a fire shall devour before him, (that Pentecost middle branch again)and it shall be very tempestuous round about him. (do you really think the Saints walking on air for the first time are going to line up orderly, like muslims praying to mecca, ABSOLUTELY NOT, they, no wait, let me speak for myself, if I can get there quicker, sorry Saints, I am going to want a front row, I want to get close to Jesus!!! Tempestuous! You bet! It will be a righteous MMA free for all like never seen! Moderators will come but they will allow people ahead of them, NOT ME! I practice rapture flying when I am swimming, trying to increase my skill set. I really do not believe my God coming from Heaven is honored by lying on the ground like rows of corpses and raising your rear in rigor mortis) 4 He shall call (how many times does He have to call so that you will know you are being called to the throne room?) to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that he may judge his people. (Church judged at bema seat, Israel, his people, judged during the tribulation) 5 Gather my saints together unto me; (at rapture by Jesus of church before tribulation and the gathering of the elect at end of tribulation by the first angel with a scythe in Rev 14. NOT the second angel with a scythe, you who are now unbelievers, either accept Jesus now or remember, you want to go with the first angel not the second) those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice. (our covenant with Jesus is that it was HIS sacrifice that saved us, we sacrifice all our efforts so everyone knows it was God who saved us, it was nothing we did ..because if it was something WE did, we might even have a smidgen of pride) 6 And the heavens shall declare his righteousness: (oh my the first view of the throne room! and if any folks down below saw the shining cloud of witnesses in the air heading to the throne room, that would be another way that the heavens shall declare his righteousness. You with me Saints? Yet? Cmon!) for God is judge himself. Selah. (get ready for the Bema Seat Saints!)
Blessings Saints. Soon we rise and shine.
I am getting tired of this. I have to revise my article again. BUT, I will keep doing it till you all are willing to be counting to that last day and GET EXCITED and stop being bummed out and confused! Now we know what the SIGN WAS FOR!! I really do have to go back to work. See you all soon Saints. Thanks for being interested in this. I think this currently is one of the fastest growing threads on Unsealed. Thank you all.
I already know Genesis fifty works because at the completion of that chapter, Joseph's bones are TAKEN OUT OF EGYPT ON THE WAY TO THE PROMISED LAND. As will be our bones at the rapture.
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Post by witness1 on Dec 5, 2017 15:51:26 GMT -6
This is really beautiful Dennis! Next time you have adult attention disorder, would you tell me more about the bema seat? I have never heard of it. Also, you are cracking me up lately... Quadratic formulas and rapture flying 😂
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Post by krnboitae on Dec 5, 2017 17:29:20 GMT -6
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 5, 2017 17:49:04 GMT -6
LOL Dennis, its all good...I am not as well studied as you are in the 12/31 view. I am trying but balancing life with study time lately has been a challenge for me (lots going on). So I am 'moderate' in my approach to many things (yup even before i was a moderator), but with the limited time I've had lately, I've been a *****-erator (couldnt think of a good one mike you said... "I am not as well studied as you are in the 12/31 view" As far as I can tell OF COURSE you are not "as well studied" on this. God only gave me this idea the week before Thanksgiving and I went into it, preparing a position paper, hoping that someone here could immediately prove it wrong. That would have made my life easier. Then Teddy Kim on unsealed, from a direction 180 degrees from mine, came to the same conclusion about that date. So, of course you are "not studied" on the 12/31 view. It is a Daniel 12:4 new revelation which, by the way, I think God told us to expect in these last days. My 50 page article was written only in the past two weeks! I don't write that well. It is laborious I know. You have admitted to me three times now that you haven't read it or all of it by this time. Or the last three revisions, Hah! I get it. AND, for whatever reason, right now, I DO HAVE THE ABILITY to spend a significant amount of time on it. AND, that itself to me, is a miracle too. I don't want to go into it right now but I definitely could. Ask me in heaven. Let me tell you something else mike. It if wasn't for you and your calming influence on me, I would have skipped out of here in a hurry. You helped me understand the unsealed process. You were definitely a skilled "moderator" in that instance, and it would have taken a miracle to keep me on here until you rescued me. So for that I say, Thanks. What I have learned most recently in Scripture is to me the most amazing. I would have hated to have missed that and I probably would have had I bailed. Some do not like that what I present because it is to them "new." I find this amazing, because most, IF NOT ALL, of the "old" mainstream theologians who we often rely on for truth, HAVE ENTIRELY REJECTED THE FACT THAT THE SIGN THAT OCCURRED IN THE HEAVENS ON SEPTEMBER 23, 2017 WAS A SIGN FROM GOD. When, I see that in a preacher, I realize, the Holy Spirit will not be communicating through that preacher on a very high level. What you can expect from that sermon might be good things about Christian living and tithing whatever, but if that preacher begins to preach on prophecy, when that preacher has rejected God's sign, they, ever so much, become a less important voice with respect to truth. I don't think of this as a "lets talk about different ideas" kind of discussion. THIS REALLY MATTERS!!! Think of it. I mean really. God wants to protect those whom He loves. He does this all the time. There are those whom He loves in churches right now and those whom He loves have not yet accepted Him. The leaders and pastors of those churches HAVE DONE NOTHING to prepare their church for the day when that Sunday comes, when sometime prior to the service, the righteous have been pulled from earth. What will happen in those churches where the subject of Prophecy is verboten? I am in Southern California right now. Within 30 minutes of me I can think of 10 super mega churches where the pastors, I have listed to them, TEACH NOTHING about prophecy except "someday He is coming we don't know when." Usually, they preach that Prophecy is too divisive and so will not let it be taught in their church. I know this, I had a 20 year "job" as an independent, lay, no pay, in fact pay all my expenses of printing, AV, etc, I loved it, Teacher of an adult Sunday School Class. I always figured it was a result of supply and demand. I taught prophecy when it came up. I made sure it came up because every 5 years I would spend a year in Revelation. The pastor didn't preach prophecy and because people had a desire for the whole counsel of God, usually I had one of the biggest and most healthy adult classes to teach. Then, my church decided they did not want to have adult classes anymore and I humbly cancelled my class. Actually for about a year I tried to teach it in my house in the afternoon because the church leaders did not want me to teach it at ANY TIME at the church plant, but that just got to be too much of a problem. AND CHURCH LEADERS REMAIN HAPPY as long as there is enough money for the church plant and its employees and then their big organization will look healthy. Hey, I was a PK. I am glad my dad had a job. I came to know the Lord at his preaching. But we are in the last days!!! Don't they know the Church ministry stops at the rapture? Should not these leaders take that one next step and say, "Hey, when Jesus comes, there may be church leaders ALSO left behind." I think all churches should have a plan that NO PREACHER, NO PASTOR, NO LEADER, NO DEACON, NO ELDER, NO CHILD MINISTRY PASTOR, who was not taken in the rapture, shall be allowed to continue in their roll or position ON THAT NEXT SUNDAY. This is where we are today. I have started thinking about how to protect unbelievers in churches, who become believers after the rapture. It will not be by letting current leaders continue in their positions. But the Laodician church? There will be such deception. People will be so ready for any good news. Are you worried about the Nephilim? Then come to church on Sunday! Hah! I just don't think the news they get there on that first post rapture Sunday will be from God. YET, IN THOSE CHURCHES THERE IS LITTLE OR NO RECOGNITION THAT WE ARE IN THE LAST DAYS AND SO PREACHERS CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH SCRIPTURE VERSE BY VERSE when perhaps, oh, a few weeks before a grand possibility of the rapture, it might be time for a few good TOPICAL studies. You know, on prophecy and such. You know topics that might be of perhaps a special interest on a day when only 25 days remain till the end of the termination of Pentecost count! I am not a king so I am not in charge so now I can't change much. However, praise God, He made me feel like a king when I discovered that stuff in 2 Kings 1 and 2!!!! Wow. I went on and on. I have always thought about this. I am a lawyer. I do trusts and wills. Over two decades ago I created a document for believers who had trusts, if their beloved family were gone in an event like the rapture, this amendment to their trust could somehow get their property away from the antichrist and the beast system and use it to help tribulation saints. I called it the Rapture Amendment. That was years ago. I have thought about this all the time. Now, however, for those left behind, I see the pervasiveness of the internet and 5G, and surveillance and robot drones and money issues and deception and I just don't think it will work. I gave up on that. But what about the churches? I wonder how many tribulation saints will spend that first Sunday after the rapture without a message from God. Oh my. I went on and on. Blessings mike. Be advised...God works through you. What could be better than that? Well then there's Balaam. God worked through him too. Hah! What a GRAND day this has been. Tomorrow Saints. Lord Willing.
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Post by cwood85 on Dec 5, 2017 20:18:43 GMT -6
So I have to leave this and get back to work so I am working on a Probate upstairs in my office and my mind keeps seeing all those red fifties. and I am working on expenses of the decedent and it was $12.50 for a certification, "50?" then I had the thought...what is in Psalm fifty?
Some say I have adult attention disorder, so I go and read this Psalm to see if it has anything to do with the potential end of Pentecost count rapture... BINGO - WE SOON SHALL BE CALLED HOME!(A Psalm of Asaph.) The mighty God, even the LORD, hath spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the going down thereof. (to me this means the rapture call will happen at the same time all over the earth)2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, (here comes Jesus, our perfection of beauty, coming right out of the throne room the real one in heavenly Zion) God hath shined. (that Pentecost middle branch again)3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: (how about the second and last trump of God? That won't be silent!) a f ire shall devour before him, (that Pentecost middle branch again)and it shall be very tempestuous round about him. (do you really think the Saints walking on air for the first time are going to line up orderly, like muslims praying to mecca, ABSOLUTELY NOT, they, no wait, let me speak for myself, if I can get there quicker, sorry Saints, I am going to want a front row, I want to get close to Jesus!!! Tempestuous! You bet! It will be a righteous MMA free for all like never seen! Moderators will come but they will allow people ahead of them, NOT ME! I practice rapture flying when I am swimming, trying to increase my skill set. I really do not believe my God coming from Heaven is honored by lying on the ground like rows of corpses and raising your rear in rigor mortis)4 He shall call (how many times does He have to call so that you will know you are being called to the throne room?) to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that he may judge his people. (Church judged at bema seat, Israel, his people, judged during the tribulation)5 Gather my saints together unto me; (at rapture by Jesus of church before tribulation and the gathering of the elect at end of tribulation by the first angel with a scythe in Rev 14. NOT the second angel with a scythe, you who are now unbelievers, either accept Jesus now or remember, you want to go with the first angel not the second) those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice. (our covenant with Jesus is that it was HIS sacrifice that saved us, we sacrifice all our efforts so everyone knows it was God who saved us, it was nothing we did ..because if it was something WE did, we might even have a smidgen of pride) 6 And the heavens shall declare his righteousness: (oh my the first view of the throne room! and if any folks down below saw the shining cloud of witnesses in the air heading to the throne room, that would be another way that the heavens shall declare his righteousness. You with me Saints? Yet? Cmon!) for God is judge himself. Selah. (get ready for the Bema Seat Saints!)
Blessings Saints. Soon we rise and shine. I am getting tired of this. I have to revise my article again. BUT, I will keep doing it till you all are willing to be counting to that last day and GET EXCITED and stop being bummed out and confused! Now we know what the SIGN WAS FOR!! I really do have to go back to work. See you all soon Saints. Thanks for being interested in this. I think this currently is one of the fastest growing threads on Unsealed. Thank you all. I already know Genesis fifty works because at the completion of that chapter, Joseph's bones are TAKEN OUT OF EGYPT ON THE WAY TO THE PROMISED LAND. As will be our bones at the rapture.
LOL DENNIS!!! After reading your first couple post on this site, I thought to myself Oh yeah he is definitely ADD, and as excited as you get in some of your post, probably some ADHD in there. We ADD'ers can recognize each other from a mile away 🙃. In all honesty I barely make through reading a full post of yours before getting distracted and realizing I am doing something else... never the less I have found your post interesting. Trying to keep up, but have been focusing a lot on SK's restoration thread in the Salvation topic.
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 5, 2017 23:41:26 GMT -6
OK. Prove to me that the apostle Paul was not like this!!!!
Hah. Oh my. Laughing hard. Primarily because Paul is kind of the last apostle I want to meet...I fear I taught stuff wrong...but not what you think.
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 6, 2017 8:08:06 GMT -6
I kept thinking about Elijah and the 2 groups of fifty that he destroyed with fire. I kept thinking, "You know, we will be blessed at the 2 counts of fifty, so I really wish those two groups of fifty had been saved instead of destroyed, wouldn't that make us more look forward to experiencing the two groups of fifty days (connected) at the TERMINATION OF PENTECOST COUNT?"
But then I realize that those in the first two groups of fifty were in no way believers. So, here would have been what I want...I would like to see two counts of fifty BELIEVERS, OR PEOPLE OF GOD being saved NOT DESTROYED! THEN I WILL KNOW THERE IS A BLESSING THERE. Then I will look again at the double count of fifty for blessing at the end of the TERMINATION OF PENTECOST COUNT!
SCRIPTURE:
I Kings 18:
3 And Ahab called Obadiah, which was the governor of his house. (Now Obadiah feared the LORD greatly: 4 For it was so, when Jezebel cut off the prophets of the LORD, that Obadiah took an hundred PROPHETS, and hid them by fifty in a cave, and fed them with bread and water.)
SAINTS, DO YOU SEE THIS? I THINK I GOT MY WISH...and then of course, God says, "I wonder if they got the hint...no I better repeat it...and I will make sure they know these are My people!"
13 Was it not told my lord what I did when Jezebel slew the prophets of the LORD, how I hid an hundred men of the LORD'S PROPHETS by fifty in a cave, and fed them with bread and water?
Bread and water? What could that be referring to. "I am the bread of life." "I am the living water." Not only do we get that blessing at the end of the two counts of fifty (connected) IN SPADES because we will see Him as He is, but right now even during this time as we wait for the end of the two counts of fifty (connected) we are also sustained by that same bread and water.
Blessings SAINTS. Soon we rise and shine and are and shall be gifted with bread and water.
Please allow me to quote from page 2 of my article...THE SECOND GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN OF 9/23/2017
"God continues to give truth as we approach the day. If we keep going back over and over the Book, maybe something will become clear that was not clear, or a new insight giving clarity to a verse we hadn’t even questioned as being one that needed clarity before.
If this idea presented here, with its confirmations in Scripture, is of the Lord it will grow. Now I have learned that this is not my truth. I don’t have to defend it. It is in the Bible. If it is not true it will fade away. However, I see a huge amount of spiritual beauty in what the Lord revealed to me about the count to the termination of the Pentecost season since the week before Thanksgiving. I would like to share it.
As the musician John Fischer wrote, “I’m just one hungry beggar showing you where I found food.”
“Lord, let it grow or let it fade.” Amen."
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 6, 2017 8:26:09 GMT -6
But Dennis its apparently 75 days from 9/23/2017 and nothing has happened. There was no Covenant signed in the past, No start of sacrificing, No AC and FP on scene. NO abomination of desolation, No Mark of the beast requirements started, no 3rd temple built, so maybe just maybe, Sept 23, 2017 was not the start of the Great Tribulation.... and was inaccurately interpreted by the majority
Its a tender subject, but you ALL should be aware that you might be wrong on this dating
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 6, 2017 8:29:39 GMT -6
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 6, 2017 8:34:33 GMT -6
But Dennis its apparently 75 days from 9/23/2017 and nothing has happened. There was no Covenant signed in the past, No start of sacrificing, No AC and FP on scene. NO abomination of desolation, No Mark of the beast requirements started, no 3rd temple built, so maybe just maybe, Sept 23, 2017 was not the start of the Great Tribulation.... and was inaccurately interpreted by the majority Its a tender subject, but you ALL should be aware that you might be wrong on this dating davidjayjordan. Its kind of a date set not by me but by the count in Leviticus 23:15 & 16. I am just looking at that date from Scripture. As to whether something will happen at the end of the count, THAT is the question. That "nothing has happened" yet actually confirms my theory. I have reviewed your materials and I know you have been busy, and I am pretty sure by your statement "so maybe just maybe, Sept 23, 2017 was not the start of the Great Tribulation" that you have not read the Article because that is in no way what I proffered. I have glanced at your theory but you find the Church of God in the tribulation and I just don't believe that. Sorry. I do appreciate that you came to unsealed. It will assist you as it did me. Blessings.
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Post by witness1 on Dec 6, 2017 9:03:36 GMT -6
I have not seen anyone on this forum state that the tribulation began on Sept 23.
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 6, 2017 9:43:01 GMT -6
I have not seen anyone on this forum state that the tribulation began on Sept 23. David again puts his palm to his forehead... are you kidding ? Mike said I was wrong because it was 73 days after 9/23, and the start of GREAT TRIBULATION.. Barbio another moderater seemed to be the only one that didn;t seem to know much about 9/23, apparently the GREAT SIGN taht started the End Time...or Great TRIBULATION< even though nothing has happened Are you brethen saying 9/23 is a goner and not applicable. Pleas be clear as all of you talking about 9/23 as If Revelation 12 has already begun.. I dont know anyone that differed ...except me.... and now everyone seems to be saying I got it wrong and one of you know about 9/23. But if you do, what count down are you applying from 9/23. Lets have a look at it.
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Post by mike on Dec 6, 2017 10:39:35 GMT -6
I have not seen anyone on this forum state that the tribulation began on Sept 23. David again puts his palm to his forehead... are you kidding ? Mike said I was wrong because it was 73 days after 9/23, and the start of GREAT TRIBULATION.. Barbio another moderater seemed to be the only one that didn;t seem to know much about 9/23, apparently the GREAT SIGN taht started the End Time...or Great TRIBULATION< even though nothing has happened Are you brethen saying 9/23 is a goner and not applicable. Pleas be clear as all of you talking about 9/23 as If Revelation 12 has already begun.. I dont know anyone that differed ...except me.... and now everyone seems to be saying I got it wrong and one of you know about 9/23. But if you do, what count down are you applying from 9/23. Lets have a look at it. David, I certainly did not say the tribulation began on 9/23. I said there is no doubt that on 9/23 Revelation 12:1-2 occurred in the heavens. That point has been debated quite a bit and there are several articles debunking the debunkers on the home page of this site. I also did not say you were wrong, I asked how you interpret Revelation as linear when this stellar arrangement occurred 73 days ago (that was 2 days ago). I'll apologize now if that wasnt clearly articulated where you understood my question to you. I am not pointing right and wrong I asked questions. I digress...what I believe to be right is the great sign of Rev 12:1-2 happened on 9/23, like almost everyone else on this site. So the question then becomes if you disagree with that, please explain why? Have you considered that perhaps your timeline or linear interpretation of Revelation is not accurate? I once held that Revelation was also linear when I first learned on the great sign. My initial reaction was that on September 23rd we'd be smack in the middle of the tribulation, that was until someone ( socalexile) introduced me to chiasm. I will look for that link and provide you with the material to perhaps help you understand as I did and others do.
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Post by mike on Dec 6, 2017 10:41:33 GMT -6
dennislwatson - Glory to Him! I am humbled by your kind words and am glad that I was used to make an impact on you. I will get to your material soon, promise! (I guess I have to before 12/31 )
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Post by Rick on Dec 6, 2017 11:12:40 GMT -6
Blessings in the name of the most high God, Yeshua Ha'Mashiach I just wanted to say, as Gentile believers we are not called to count, but called to "WATCH". Is there anything wrong with counting? I don't believe so, but to try and persuade others into what you believe the Holy Spirit may be showing you is not very fruitful. I find day counts very interesting but the Lord has never put it on my heart to share this with anyone else. I am, and always have been content with knowing that His timing is perfect and yes I do believe that His return for the church is close at hand.
I mean no offense to anyone in this thread. I just think we should all be content with knowing that He is coming, it is close and that His timing is perfect. Therefore we should be watching and longing for His return.
Blessings to all my brothers and sisters here at Unsealed!
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