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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 4, 2017 12:48:36 GMT -6
Bingo! 2 Kings 1 - I dare say in all my teaching days, I have never heard that story taught with all these elements.
Is this Daniel 12:4 at work? Saints it is so important as we see the day approaching to be open to the Spirit's leading and teaching.
And truly, everyone's personality is fabulous and unique. That is the way our Creator designed us. Can't wait to see that be totally revealed at the throne room!
Oh and I am still thinking about that story!
Guess what Prophet of God will have a ministry in saving Israel AFTER THE TWO COUNTS OF FIFTY? Hah! This is great. ELIJAH! Is that what this story is finally teaching? What a God we have!!!!
Jeremiah 9:24New American Standard Bible (NASB)
24 but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am the Lord who exercises lovingkindness, justice and righteousness on earth; for I delight in these things,” declares the Lord.
And please...do not suggest to me that I "have faith in a date!" I have seen this in various comments before. Please do not post that here. The "no man knows the day crowd of pre glorified Jesus truth" will usually indicate derision at these people who have "faith in a date!" I don't have faith in a date. I have faith in an incredible, sovereign, truth concealing so that we can search and honor Him by searching out truth, omniscient, master at story-telling, loving, surprising, Bible inspiring KIND OF GOD. It just so happens that that person in whom I have faith has made me become interested in a particular date.
I have decided to run at this with chest out folks. "I feel His presence when I run." Do not be afraid! Do not fear! Run with me.
I came to unsealed to get wisdom. I did. No one has said the view in my article was impossible. If this violated Scripture, the moderators would have told me. They disagreed because they like Feast of Trumpets, or they do not feel a "Feast Day" is associated with the Rapture and I agree with them. If I asked when is Pentecost everyone would say it is in Spring or early Summer. I am fine with that. The rapture is not on a feast day, it is at the end of a Feast SEASON. Pentecost is still going on!
Now, lets talk about what happens if 12/31 is not the time! I have faith and until I am incorruptible I won't see everything except through a glass darkly. But if I run, and don't offend people, rather invite them to consider that we are at the end (like that is a difficult debate) Then we can say, before God, "At least for once, because of what Scripture taught me, I went all out and good grief, it was enjoyable, but as for God's ultimate conclusion, I was wrong, but man it has to be close!!!" Will that be so bad? Oh Oh, I see there will be those who say, if you are wrong, it will dishonor God. Hmmm. Workin on it.
Blessings Saints. Be Encouraged! Soon we rise and shine.
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Post by mike on Dec 4, 2017 13:50:02 GMT -6
DW 2.0 Brother I will remember this...however if others dont I'll be pushing exhorting back  |
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 4, 2017 14:25:45 GMT -6
DW 2.0 Brother I will remember this...however if others dont I'll be pushing exhorting back You already have brother and I appreciate it. I just read this again and once again I am not sure I got the comment. Mike, I thought that you said, and this is why I responded the way you did, I thought you said, "Brother I will remember this (about you) and if I need to (exhort you because you are being an idiot again) I will get on your tail and exhort you too!" and that is why I said what I did. You have already exhorted me and I did listen, right? When I read this statement AGAIN, now I was not sure if you were saying that you would exhort "others" to be more understanding of me or something. Hah! Wow! This is why social media is not the way God intended communication. If that is what you were saying then my response is thanks. But the third time I see "exhorting back" so this is directed at me. OK we are cool. Ignore this. |
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 4, 2017 15:41:42 GMT -6
Because of new knowledge about the Book this morning from 2 Kings 1, I revised my article. Point B 10 was added and previous Point B 10 is now Point B 11.
Blessings Saints. Soon we get lit up.
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Post by mike on Dec 4, 2017 22:22:51 GMT -6
Dennis...you are correct that social media is tough to get full understanding at times. I tried to be jocular, as what I wrote made sense to me (especially when I bolded your words) but what you read didn't quite translate that way. Sorry about that.
I was merely trying to be funny with you saying that I knew your "being pushy" was your excitement, but some others may not realize it about you (yet) so I'd remind you that you were seeming pushy (to others) 😉
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 4, 2017 23:49:50 GMT -6
Hah! OK. I get it. Tone down. Tone down.
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 5, 2017 8:08:27 GMT -6
So Saints, please read point B. 10 in my article. Look at this section about the raptured Elijah and his counts of 50...
9 Then the king sent unto him a captain of fifty with his fifty. And he went up to him: and, behold, he sat on the top of an hill. And he spake unto him, Thou man of God, the king hath said, Come down.
10 And Elijah answered and said to the captain of fifty, If I be a man of God, then let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And there came down fire from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty.
11 Again also he sent unto him another captain of fifty with his fifty. And he answered and said unto him, O man of God, thus hath the king said, Come down quickly.
12 And Elijah answered and said unto them, If I be a man of God, let fire come down from heaven, and consume thee and thy fifty. And the fire of God came down from heaven, and consumed him and his fifty. 13 And he sent again a captain of the third fifty with his fifty. And the third captain of fifty went up, and came and fell on his knees before Elijah, and besought him, and said unto him, O man of God, I pray thee, let my life, and the life of these fifty thy servants, be precious in thy sight.
14 Behold, there came fire down from heaven, and burnt up the two captains of the former fifties with their fifties: therefore let my life now be precious in thy sight.
Has this strange story given us additional confirmation about the rapture associated with Pentecost (50)? How could it not? These are points that were concealed by God. I think they have now been searched for and discovered. As I look back on the verses that were quoted from 2 Kings 1 above, and I read them again, and see that number 15 times…I am beginning to think I hear the faint voice of God whispering like a gentle breeze…
Here is what God is saying in the quietude…”Hello Dear Ones!!! In this section of MY WORD I’d like you to TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT PENTECOST, PENTECOST, PENTECOST, PENTECOST, PENTECOST, PENTECOST, PENTECOST PENTECOST, PENTECOST, PENTECOST, PENTECOST, PENTECOST, PENTECOST, PENTECOSTS, PENTECOSTS!!!!”
Don't make God yell! Just take another look at Pentecost. The Scripture I quoted is not sufficient to understand all the connections to a story that I (by the grace of God) now see as a metaphor for the end of the Pentecost counts and what happens to Christians, and how after that, Elijah will minister to Israel. I would post the whole point here but it is 4 complete pages and I have seen comments were people don't like to have to read a lot here on the boards.
Blessings Saints. Soon we rise and shine.
Guests. Sorry you cannot download the article here. Fivedoves.com does not update but once a week on Sunday. I discovered this point yesterday. If you email me I will send you a revised pdf version of the article. Consider becoming a member of unsealed. lawtrams@aol.com What i found was that if I used a internet access OTHER THAN SAFARI it was easier to become a member. Simple questions.
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Post by krnboitae on Dec 5, 2017 8:49:10 GMT -6
Mr.Watson Thats right! God gives a lot of hints in numbers. Just watch first 2 minutes of pastor Perry Stone here. Pastor Perry is saying 40 and 5 in hebrew means What?!?! After last presidential election for 45th US president, many people were saying What?! Even in Korea and whole world was saying same thing. anyways, 8 days after rev 12 virgo sign, route 91 harvest shooting happened. This was a big hint to me. I cannot stress this event enough. Just think about its name and number. HARVEST? ROUTE? JESUS campos? 91? SIN CITY? PARADISE ave.? These BIBLICAL words dont sound any alarm to you? God gave us whole alot of hints. 10/01+91=12/31 JESUS COMES TO HARVEST FOR PARADISE AND JUDGE THE SINNER IN 91 DAYS. I truly believe 12/31 is the date that God has set. Also look what 91 means here. www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu91.php |
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 5, 2017 9:28:30 GMT -6
Mr.Watson Thats right! God gives a lot of hints in numbers. Just watch first 2 minutes of pastor Perry Stone here. Pastor Perry is saying 40 and 5 in hebrew means What?!?! After last presidential election for 45th US president, many people were saying What?! Even in Korea and whole world was saying same thing. anyways, 8 days after rev 12 virgo sign, route 91 harvest shooting happened. This was a big hint to me. I cannot stress this event enough. Just think about its name and number. HARVEST? ROUTE? JESUS campos? 91? SIN CITY? PARADISE ave.? These words dont sound any alarm to you? God gave us whole alot of hints. 10/01+91=12/31 Teddy Kim. I did watch that video. Numbers are important to God. You discovered a simple mathematical confirmation (10/01+91 = 12/31) at the same time when I was working on the theological point that the Revelation 12 Sign could be the beginning of a full count Termination of Pentecost count from Leviticus 23:15 & 16. From that Biblical inquiry, I came to 12/31. Then I saw your post on unsealed. I was so excited. In my article now I have 19 other confirmations for that date in THE SECOND GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN OF 9/23/2017. God is providing even more confirmations. Teddy there has to be a spiritual/theological reason for this number confirmation you received. The spiritual/theological reason is that from the sign of 9/23, if you count 7 Sabbaths, then the morrow after, thus beginning your count to 50 = December 31, 2017. Thanks for pointing out these numbers. It was SO IMPORTANT that you discovered this simple confirmation. Had I not seen your post back on 11/22 in that Virgo thread, I think, I might not have thought anyone else would have seen this and I might have become discouraged and not have spent as much time on this as I have. God even gave me another idea yesterday about 2 Kings 1. God is confirming the date but only for those who are willing watchers. Don't be discouraged if you have to respond to those who do not want this to be the date. The Holy Spirit inside of you cannot wait to introduce you to the throne of God. It is like the servant that Abraham sent on a mission to find a Bride for his son Isaac. The servant did his work and found and brought willing Rebecca in the air (she rode on a camel) to Isaac and then she was grounded (in heaven off the camel). DO YOU NOT THINK THAT SERVANT WAS PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THE GIFT THAT HE WAS GOING TO PRESENT TO ISAAC? NOT ONLY ISAAC, THE SERVANT KNEW IT WOULD PLEASE THE FATHER. Teddy, I think that is one reason why you and I are so excited. The Holy Spirit is soon coming home with the Bride, and believe it or not, He is pleased to be able to have you and I and every excited Christian make our own personal acquaintance with the risen Jesus. As soon as we get off the camel. Blessings Teddy. Never had this thought before but I will bet, among the three persons of the Trinity, Jesus will say to us, "Well done my good and faithful servant" and the Father may say not only to we who believe, but also, grandly, to the Holy Spirit. "Well done thou good and faithful servant!" |
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 5, 2017 12:31:20 GMT -6
Saints! I don't feel you are with me yet.
As a result no one told me about this important fact that I just NOW discovered.
I was SO FOCUSED on the Pentecost (50) count in 2 Kings Chapter 1 as being an important RAPTURE hint. I was so excited I did not even look at 2 Kings Chapter 2 until this very moment!!!!!!! ANOTHER REVISION TO MY ARTICLE IS SOON TO COME!!!
THE VERY NEXT CHAPTER OF THE BIBLE 2 KINGS 2 IS THE RAPTURE OF ELIJAH!!!!
The next chapter and God still keeps pointing us to PENTECOST, PENTECOST, PENTECOST
2 Kings 2:7
And fifty men of the sons of the prophets went, and stood to view afar off: and they two stood by Jordan.
2 Kings 2:16
And they said unto him, Behold now, there be with thy servants fifty strong men; let them go, we pray thee, and seek thy master: lest peradventure the Spirit of the LORD hath taken him up, and cast him upon some mountain, or into some valley. And he said, Ye shall not send.
2 Kings 2:17
And when they urged him till he was ashamed, he said, Send. They sent therefore fifty men; and they sought three days, but found him not.
OK. Now I see that fifty is 138 times in Scripture. As I read the 138 verses that had fifty in it just now my spirit said to me, "You have more to look at!" Some of the verses are other numbers like "fifty and two". However, I still get a kick out of God that as we read His Word instead of 52, we see "fifty" and two. God winking through history?
It is not pointing to the beginning of the season of Pentecost but to the end of the Season of Pentecost.
Could use some help here! Anyone? Would some guest join and give me some encouragement? I am thinking this is amazing. Anyone else?
Blessings Saints. Soon we rise and shine.
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Post by witness1 on Dec 5, 2017 12:55:16 GMT -6
dennislwatson, Am I with you yet? I'm not sure. I definitely see where you're coming from. I can see how Leviticus could be interpreted in the manner you suggest. I have not finished reading your revised article yet but am looking forward to it. I am definitely intrigued with this 2 Kings business, and I had read chapter 2 the other day and noticed the rapture was the next chapter. I assumed you knew that too or I would have mentioned it! At a minimum, I notice I am very excited whenever I see a new post from you, because I know you may have found some new nugget of truth to support your position, and I know you love Jesus and your excitement is contagious. I notice that I want you to be right and want to be convinced! So I think I am getting there. I still want to know for sure that Leviticus should be read according to the 7 sabbaths + 50 days method, and I'm not sure how to get past that or whether I even should get past that. I feel like diverging from a long held interpretation is a big jump to make, but I also see the very real possibility that we have simply misunderstood this verse like we misunderstand so many others. Or maybe the Lord kept it intentionally ambiguous until the latter days. I think there's a good chance you're on to something, but I'm still on the fence trying to synthesize everything together. I am trying to figure out if the super moons fit here... it is interesting that the moon is basically full on Dec 31st and then there is an eclipse Jan 31st. Could this be the day the tribulation begins under a blood moon? That just doesn't fit with any timeline we have conceived so far with a 7 year tribulation ending on a fall feast day. I have been going to and fro over the book and trying to conceive of a different timeline that fits with this December rapture idea. Do you have any thoughts as to how it could play out?
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 5, 2017 13:34:21 GMT -6
dennislwatson , Am I with you yet? I'm not sure. I definitely see where you're coming from. I can see how Leviticus could be interpreted in the manner you suggest. I have not finished reading your revised article yet but am looking forward to it. I am definitely intrigued with this 2 Kings business, and I had read chapter 2 the other day and noticed the rapture was the next chapter. I assumed you knew that too or I would have mentioned it! At a minimum, I notice I am very excited whenever I see a new post from you, because I know you may have found some new nugget of truth to support your position, and I know you love Jesus and your excitement is contagious. I notice that I want you to be right and want to be convinced! So I think I am getting there. I still want to know for sure that Leviticus should be read according to the 7 sabbaths + 50 days method, and I'm not sure how to get past that or whether I even should get past that. I feel like diverging from a long held interpretation is a big jump to make, but I also see the very real possibility that we have simply misunderstood this verse like we misunderstand so many others. Or maybe the Lord kept it intentionally ambiguous until the latter days. I think there's a good chance you're on to something, but I'm still on the fence trying to synthesize everything together. I am trying to figure out if the super moons fit here... it is interesting that the moon is basically full on Dec 31st and then there is an eclipse Jan 31st. Could this be the day the tribulation begins under a blood moon? That just doesn't fit with any timeline we have conceived so far with a 7 year tribulation ending on a fall feast day. I have been going to and fro over the book and trying to conceive of a different timeline that fits with this December rapture idea. Do you have any thoughts as to how it could play out? THANK YOU witness1 !!!! You ministered to my Spirit right there!!! I don't know how to solve the Feast Days counts during the 7 year Tribulation arrangement. I think Scripture may give too much wobble room, too many unknowns, for God in those last days with the shortening of days and that kind of thing. Remember the AC is prophesied to change the laws and the seasons. I don't know how to solve it except to say that, after the rapture, there could even be more time than we think before the actual 7 years of Jacob's trouble comes. Of course right at the Rapture, the time of trouble, the Tribulation begins and the horribleness of this period, however long, will be unparalleled. No period will have ever been as bad (amazingly even during the time of Noah, Japan and a bombs, Germany and ovens) as will be this worst period of human history. To me it is a great question but I did not feel I had the info to figure that out (too many variables and I don't know the quadratic formula) and so I did not spend a lot of time at it. I see some recently on unsealed have different ideas. To me It is like trying to identify the AC. I don't see that as important for us, and I did not even want to give him honor by attempting to figure out who he is. The less I can think about him the better. NOW, I am praying about this. I am a little uneasy making this next statement because truly, it is like making a jump of faith. I have seen Biblical examples of this reliance on His word before. It usually happens after the fact. I am suggesting something before the fact. The 2 Kings Chapter 1 and 2 idea simply blew me away the past day! I had never thought of this until the sign came into my thinking. I do believe God is giving us Daniel 12:4 knowledge. Here is what I am wondering...and "LORD Forgive me if I am being presumptuous!" At 99 days before 12/31 we had the SECOND GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN OF 9/23/2017. At 77 days before 12/31 we had the fires in Portugal and Santa Rosa California. At 44 days before 12/31 we had the loss of the 44 sailors on the Argentinian sub. At 33 days before 12/31 we had the UN Vote from Hell. At 22 days before 12/31 we will have  ? December 9, 2017 At 11 days before 12/31 we will have ? December 20, 2017 The number 11 is a number through which God shows chaos, disaster, catastrophe, etc. I have watched these 11s come and some go without much, and I DO NOT WISH JUDGMENT ON ANY, however, what could God do to prove to His Saints, AND TO THE UNSAVED WORLD (remember, judgment from God is designed for repentance (that is till the very end when He says, "I have tried everything and you have resisted it all...here is your reward") that He is serious in these very Last Days? The number 22 is interesting... In the Bible The 22 chapters of the Revelation of John, totaling 405 verses. This current distribution in 22 chapters originates from Stephen Langton, used since the 13th century, as for all the remainder of the New Testament. Before to die, Jesus exclaimed "Eli Eli lama sabactani" which is the beginning of the psalm 22. The alphabetical psalms of which the poetries (Ps 111 and 112), stanzas (Ps 37 and 119) or verses (Ps 145), are indicated by each of the twenty-two Hebraic letters. It is the number of letters of the alphabet that we find in the Pentateuch. The chronology of the Patriarchs, from Adam to Jacob, includes 22 names. The duration of the reign of Jeroboam was twenty-two years. (1 K 14,20) I WONDER witness1, if you asked God to show you something about this count on day 22 thereof and HE did something on that date, how would you respond? I am not suggesting anything except be a WATCHER on December 9, 2017 and December 20, 2017. I am not trying to be a prophet. I am just looking at the pattern that has shown itself and I am wondering if the pattern will continue THAT IS ALL. Please saints, don't be "false prophet"ing me. I am just discussing on a discussion board. I am not a prophet sitting on a hill calling fire down on fifties! Let's see if He does anything else or if He just says, "No you got enough" Blessings Saints. Soon we rise and shine. Hey, do I become a "Prophecy Guru" on my next post? Hey well then maybe I have some authority here! Maybe you should listen. Hah! |
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Post by mike on Dec 5, 2017 13:51:15 GMT -6
following along Dennis...following along. Hoping you're right and as witness1 says not exactly ready to jump ship on long held beliefs. Although I have changed positions on many erroneous teachings from my past, and I am open to new teachings, I'm still on the fence with yours (for now). I figure I'll wait to NYE to decide  |
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 5, 2017 14:06:42 GMT -6
following along Dennis...following along. Hoping you're right and as witness1 says not exactly ready to jump ship on long held beliefs. Although I have changed positions on many erroneous teachings from my past, and I am open to new teachings, I'm still on the fence with yours (for now). I figure I'll wait to NYE to decide Well Mike, I find that all the MODERATORS have to kind of take a MODERATE approach. If they took a jump all the way in approach they would become HOTERATORS. Then, when Gary found out they had taken an exclusive position they would become NOTERATORS. Good grief. How embarrassing. I used this post to become a Prophecy Guru. embarrassed. |
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Post by mike on Dec 5, 2017 14:12:58 GMT -6
LOL Dennis, its all good...I am not as well studied as you are in the 12/31 view. I am trying but balancing life with study time lately has been a challenge for me (lots going on). So I am 'moderate' in my approach to many things (yup even before i was a moderator), but with the limited time I've had lately, I've been a *****-erator (couldnt think of a good one  |
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