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Post by Natalie on Dec 2, 2017 11:32:19 GMT -6
If I am understanding your reasoning, the church was (symbolically) born on Sept 23 and was male and female --like twins sort of. Would a woman follow one period of uncleanliness after the other or would they happen at the same time, overlap so to speak? Leviticus doesn't tell us what a woman would do if she birthed fraternal twins. I see where your numbers come from, I am just trying to understand if your understanding is correct.
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Post by witness1 on Dec 2, 2017 12:21:25 GMT -6
I don't think this calculation of 33 and 66 aligns with scripture. These days are IN ADDITION TO the first 7 days after the birth, up until circumscision.
"Speak to the people of Israel, saying, If a woman conceives and bears a male child, then she shall be unclean seven days. As at the time of her menstruation, she shall be unclean.
3 And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. - Leviticus 12:2-3
Then she shall CONTINUE for thirty-three days in the blood of her purifying. She shall not touch anything holy, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying are completed. - Leviticus 12:4
The total purification is 40 days for a male child and 80 for a female.
But if she bears a female child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her menstruation. And she shall continue in the blood of her purifying for sixty-six days. - Leviticus 12:5
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 2, 2017 12:47:21 GMT -6
I don't think this calculation of 33 and 66 aligns with scripture. These days are IN ADDITION TO the first 7 days after the birth, up until circumscision. "Speak to the people of Israel, saying, If a woman conceives and bears a male child, then she shall be unclean seven days. As at the time of her menstruation, she shall be unclean. 3 And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. - Leviticus 12:2-3 Then she shall CONTINUE for thirty-three days in the blood of her purifying. She shall not touch anything holy, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying are completed. - Leviticus 12:4 The total purification is 40 days for a male child and 80 for a female. But if she bears a female child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her menstruation. And she shall continue in the blood of her purifying for sixty-six days. - Leviticus 12:5 I would've focused on the male child. I have posted my revised article which because the point numbering got difficult, I now call it the 2ND GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN OF September 23, 2017. It is at the top of the Thread. I'll be back tomorrow. I have asked that the article be posted on fivedoves.com so that non-members can review it. That should happen tomorrow, Sunday the 3rd. |
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Post by davewatchman on Dec 2, 2017 12:57:44 GMT -6
1.Church (Body of Christ, body comes out after head which is Jesus) was born on September 23rd right between two legs of Virgo. Since Church is male (33 days) and female(66 days), needs 99 days of purifying period before getting to heaven. 2.Jesus (Head of church, since he is male) and male body of church has circumcision 8 days later (91 Harvest shooting). 3. Purifying for male child is finished on October 26th. (25 days after circumcision on 10/01 and 33 days after 9/23) 4. Purifying for female child is finished on December 31st.(66 days from 10/26 and 99 days from 9/23) Davewatchman I dont know anything about that asteroid. I dont see any connection. I am not sure what you are trying to say. I know about conjunction on 11/13 which caused Iran earthquake. Conjunction of Jupiter and Venus does not have any affect on the rapture date. Kmboitae, I don't know anything about the asteroid either. I only found it 5 minutes after reading your post on the other forum. All I did was go to the date calculator and add 33 days on top of the conjunction, and then found it coming by on December 16.. I think that the conjunction is in fact the key, or the more important specification that the the sign points to. From the conjunction, I can count 49 days, seven "sevens", until 12/31. That then will begin a count of 371 days until a "darkened" sun and a moon that will not give her light. 371 days are one of the counts of the "days of Noah", the time that he spent sealed in the Ark. From the conjunction in November until the "darkened" sun is exactly 420 days, the last of three segments of 420 days when measured from the third moon of the tetrad. <---420---><---420---><---420---> <----1260----> <-----1290-----> 0.976744186046512 <------1335------> 0.966292134831461 <-------1372-------> 0.973032069970845 |
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Post by krnboitae on Dec 2, 2017 17:01:09 GMT -6
I don't think this calculation of 33 and 66 aligns with scripture. These days are IN ADDITION TO the first 7 days after the birth, up until circumscision. "Speak to the people of Israel, saying, If a woman conceives and bears a male child, then she shall be unclean seven days. As at the time of her menstruation, she shall be unclean. 3 And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. - Leviticus 12:2-3 Then she shall CONTINUE for thirty-three days in the blood of her purifying. She shall not touch anything holy, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying are completed. - Leviticus 12:4 The total purification is 40 days for a male child and 80 for a female. But if she bears a female child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her menstruation. And she shall continue in the blood of her purifying for sixty-six days. - Leviticus 12:5 No you are confused. Circumsision and 2 weeks cycle is confusing you. Just take those out. I am sorry but I just cannot convince every single person on here. Just go to my original post. Lets watch until Dec 31. You dont have believe that Dec 31st is the rapture and do your own searching out. I only trust in God who showed me. |
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Post by krnboitae on Dec 2, 2017 17:04:22 GMT -6
1.Church (Body of Christ, body comes out after head which is Jesus) was born on September 23rd right between two legs of Virgo. Since Church is male (33 days) and female(66 days), needs 99 days of purifying period before getting to heaven. 2.Jesus (Head of church, since he is male) and male body of church has circumcision 8 days later (91 Harvest shooting). 3. Purifying for male child is finished on October 26th. (25 days after circumcision on 10/01 and 33 days after 9/23) 4. Purifying for female child is finished on December 31st.(66 days from 10/26 and 99 days from 9/23) Davewatchman I dont know anything about that asteroid. I dont see any connection. I am not sure what you are trying to say. I know about conjunction on 11/13 which caused Iran earthquake. Conjunction of Jupiter and Venus does not have any affect on the rapture date. Kmboitae, I don't know anything about the asteroid either. I only found it 5 minutes after reading your post on the other forum. All I did was go to the date calculator and add 33 days on top of the conjunction, and then found it coming by on December 16.. I think that the conjunction is in fact the key, or the more important specification that the the sign points to. From the conjunction, I can count 49 days, seven "sevens", until 12/31. That then will begin a count of 371 days until a "darkened" sun and a moon that will not give her light. 371 days are one of the counts of the "days of Noah", the time that he spent sealed in the Ark. From the conjunction in November until the "darkened" sun is exactly 420 days, the last of three segments of 420 days when measured from the third moon of the tetrad. <---420---><---420---><---420---> <----1260----> <-----1290-----> 0.976744186046512 <------1335------> 0.966292134831461 <-------1372-------> 0.973032069970845 If you go to my oroginal post, I already said about 7x7 Iran Earthquake 49 days warning. Anyways thanks for the other input!!! |
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Post by krnboitae on Dec 2, 2017 17:13:37 GMT -6
If I am understanding your reasoning, the church was (symbolically) born on Sept 23 and was male and female --like twins sort of. Would a woman follow one period of uncleanliness after the other or would they happen at the same time, overlap so to speak? Leviticus doesn't tell us what a woman would do if she birthed fraternal twins. I see where your numbers come from, I am just trying to understand if your understanding is correct. Simply no overlap. If it overlaped, we should have been in heaven already. Also that will make 91 harvest shooting meaningless. Lets watch until Dec. 31st. |
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Post by Natalie on Dec 2, 2017 17:22:39 GMT -6
If I am understanding your reasoning, the church was (symbolically) born on Sept 23 and was male and female --like twins sort of. Would a woman follow one period of uncleanliness after the other or would they happen at the same time, overlap so to speak? Leviticus doesn't tell us what a woman would do if she birthed fraternal twins. I see where your numbers come from, I am just trying to understand if your understanding is correct. Simply no overlap. If it overlaped, we should have been in heaven already. Also that will make 91 harvest shooting meaningless. Lets watch until Dec. 31st. I'm going to keep watching until He comes  I just wanted to understand your reasoning for having one period of uncleanliness following the other. |
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 3, 2017 14:55:19 GMT -6
APOLOGY!!!
I owe many on unsealed.org an apology. I was new to the system here when I first posted last week. I put the article in a lot of threads and I see now that I should not have done that. I loved that I was able to get the article up and that some at least began to read it. Though I had joy that some were now reading the article I responded poorly to those who gave initial negative reports. I apologize to you who may have been insulted at some of the things I wrote as I responded to comments. I apologize to other members for my replying to comments in a way that resulted in division. This embarrasses me. I apologize to the many guests who may have seen that and were embarrassed for Christians.
For those of you who believe in a Feast of Trumpets rapture I am sorry that I was short with you all. I realize now, that if one holds to a Feast of Trumpets rapture, EVERY POINT, in my article would be nonsense and would need to be attacked and any truth there shown to be error. I now know that such a response should have been anticipated by me. I did not. I thought I was bringing hope and instead I kept wondering why all the negativity about the article so I started to pound back at times with negativity. I should not have done that. I am sorry and I repent.
Saints! Please accept my apology. What I took as bruises in the comments have been healed. I understand now that if you have a different view of the end times, there will be criticism of this idea I have presented and I should have anticipated the FOT folk and others who have a whole different set of theological ideas than I.
I am now dennislwatson version 2.0. I am not mad and really never was. I still like to crack jokes and laugh at inconsistency and especially my own AND now I know I am relying on you to point those inconsistencies out. As far as arguing goes, I do attack ideas that I think are wrong. I am a lawyer. I hate that about me. I argue points to conclusion, and that in addition to teaching an adult Sunday School class for 20 years, which was very interactive and fun, I enjoy a good banter. I am going to try and teach rather than attack ideas now.
Saints, I have posted a revised version of my article about the “14 Reasons Why Watchers should Keep Their Eyes on December 31, 2017”. Since I kept finding other reasons I renamed the article THE SECOND GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN OF SEPTEMBER 23, 2017 so that I can continue to add if there is new Daniel 12:4 knowledge that comes our way. Folks, it was a GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN and we are supposed to be counting.
I am content with the arrangement of points in the article now. Some who did not like the arrangement of reasons in the article were entirely correct. I did not arrange. It was a mishmash. It is less so now. Hope you like it. Now, even if you disagree, your disagreement will be made clearer. I attached it to the beginning post of this thread. It is also attached and downloadable at fivedoves.com. The one on unsealed can be revised as I am made aware of mistakes and as people connect me with new reasons. The fivedoves one gets updated once a week.
Blessings Saints. Soon we Rise and Shine.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 15:13:17 GMT -6
Well done dennislwatson! Received and Accepted. I'm ready for DLW 2.0! |
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 4, 2017 9:32:08 GMT -6
Thank you guys for responding. OK now I am ready to work at Scripture again.
I appreciate you all for your criticisms and whether intended or not your suggestions that I have been able to use as they have ultimately blessed me.
For instance when a commenter spoke of a "double blessing", I went back and applied that to the two "counts of fifty" before the Rapture and created a point in the article, looked at all the verses in Scripture that speak of a double blessing and now that is one of my favorite points in my article suggesting an end of count rapture. The double blessing is only for the first born male heir. Uhhh, isn't that every member of the Church? It blesses me. I know, there will still be those that do not see the connection. I love it. It warms my heart. How about you?
God is still working on me! This morning at 3AM I woke to remember a Bible story. When I thought of the story, I nearly got up to search it out and begin meditation but I knew it would take some time so I was able to get back to sleep. So, woke up, fed the dog, got coffee, went to Scripture and just now looked it up. The result: I have another point so I will have to revise the article once again! I love this! I wish you guys did too.
Let me introduce you to the new idea that has so many elements that make me smile. I am smiling because I knew about this story, I have taught it, BUT I NEVER SAW BEFORE THAT THE STORY HAD THE FOLLOWING ELEMENTS that might give us insight for today, and so I will give some hints and you tell me what Chapter of the Bible I am talking about:
The Bible story involves:
An evil person who FALLS down to earth (and has a wound),
Two counts of fifty (connected) involving a person who has gone up, uniquely dressed,
After the first count of fifty some were "lit up" Hah! Sorry that was funny!
After the second count of fifty some again were "lit up" (but because of repentance) there is a revealing to Israel, and some are saved from death,
There could have been an additional third count of fifty but it was not used. So stop counting after the second count,
Of course the prophet involved is the only prophet of Israel who was raptured, ever...(no wait, Jesus?, no not raptured, slowly ascended, and this prophet's rapture was unique too because the rapturee knew EXACTLY when he was going to be raptured... and that is my position about what the Revelation 12 sign tells us)
The evil person who FALLS down to earth, is destroyed.
With those elements, the Pentecost idea of two counts of 50, connected by a going up on a determined day, a coming down and a revealing about the person behind the count, is kind of sweet, a rapture with an evil "person' coming down and ultimately being destroyed. How did I not think of this story till this morning? How come you guys didn't tell me of this story?
AND FINALLY, some additional insight from that confusing story. I loved the story ... but I wonder now if that story has given us additional insight about the rapture.
Can anyone tell me Book and Chapter? These are points that were concealed by God.
C'mon Saints, you are Kings who honor Him by searching out what He has concealed.
It just reminds me of something I had written in the article "If we keep going back over and over the Book, maybe something will become clear that was not clear, or a new insight giving clarity to a verse we hadn’t even questioned as being one that needed clarity before." Well this section sure needed clarity. Do you agree?
Blessings Saints. Soon we rise and shine.
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 4, 2017 10:05:52 GMT -6
Ahhh. I remembered that this prophet performed 7 miracles. Knowing that this story involved "FIRE" I wondered, with those who have read the point about the Menorah in my article, whether this miracle was Elijah's 4th?
Remember the point I established in my article? Every group of 7 in Scripture is built like a menorah and it is always the middle branch, the 4th branch, that involves either "fire" "brightness" "shining" "oil" or "service" or something like that. I got the idea from J.R. Church and Gary Stearman who wrote a book and have videos on "The Mystery of the Menorah". Momentarily I wondered if this was that prophet's 4th miracle? Alas it was not. This story is that prophet's 6th miracle. Then I wondered, "O.K. if he has 7 miracles, the 4th one should involve "fire". What is the 4th?
You look it up.
There are 7 Feasts of the Lord. The middle feast, the 4th is Pentecost. The Servant Branch. Jesus, our head is the 4th branch. The church, His body, gets connected to the Head at the end of the 4th branch. Pentecost involves fire, brightness, shining, oil BOTH at its beginning and at its end, the harvest. Its harvest is the rapture. Saints! Are you seeing this yet?
Blessings Kings
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 4, 2017 11:02:24 GMT -6
Every Christian is given spiritual gifts. I was given two that I am aware of. I was given the gift of teaching. I am not saying I am a "gifted teacher". I am just saying I teach Bible because I love looking at and exposing God's word. I have done it for years and my students have confirmed the gift because they have confirmed that they learn. I was also given the gift of "exhortation". Saints with only the gift of teaching lay out the facts and they are happy with laying out facts in an organized manner. You can tell that with the arrangement of my 14 reasons, this part of the gift of teaching is still being learned by me. However, I am not satisfied simply laying out information in an organized manner. I am happy with my revised article because it does that, but that is not enough for me. Perfect example of someone with a gift of teaching is Ken Johnson. This mild mannered man, I love him, in his books and videos, breathtakingly lines up evidence and it always blesses me. Ken has the gift of teaching. I have a combo gift, teaching and exhortation. What happens with someone who has the gift of exhortation? He wants you to be encouraged and challenges you to change your thinking. I think it comes out in my writing and when people don't want to be encouraged or exhorted to change their position they ... find me "pushy". Remember, this is dennislwatson Ver. 2.0. I am not trying to be pushy I am trying to exhort you. Maybe the gift of exhortation is best exercised in person rather than in print. If so, I am sorry that I keep pressuring you all to change your position. It just goes with the territory. I can't help it. We could resolve all this if you would just change your position. Hah!
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Post by witness1 on Dec 4, 2017 12:17:35 GMT -6
As more time has passed, dennislwatson, I think we all have a better understanding of your fabulous and unique personality. Your last explanation makes so much sense. I simply cannot wait to meet you "in person" 😊 I confess that, off the top of my head, I am not sure what your scenario refers to. Will certainly search it out. |
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Post by witness1 on Dec 4, 2017 12:28:02 GMT -6
Wow. If I've read that story before, it was a long time ago. This is certainly interesting. 2 Kings 1.
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I just wanted to understand your reasoning for having one period of uncleanliness following the other.