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Post by yardstick on Dec 22, 2017 1:04:37 GMT -6
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Post by disciple4life on Dec 22, 2017 3:47:20 GMT -6
So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom. (Psalms 90:12)Do you think there is any, any, any possibility that God wants us to number our days? You know, Hah! Like when you do Bible study and you get to 50 then a connected 50, and it lines up with Leviticus 23:15&16, or maybe number our days according to Enoch (365), or maybe number our days according to being a child of Abraham by faith and Abraham was conceived of Isaac when he was 99 and then the man-child was born when he was 100, maybe number our days like the Psalms at 99 and 100
Let me pray for you all! "How is it Lord? That we could number our days? Lord we recite Psalm 123:1 and we ask for help as we strive to number our days!"Doesn't this make you laugh. I don't have a bone of animosity in my body. I just tell it like it is. I have this coarse fake personality that is somehow perceived here but that is not the way I am. So when you keep telling me I am rude and insensitive I just shrug my shoulders because all I do is tell you when you are wrong. I teach...and by the way that makes me think, what would you expect a harbinger of truth to be like? Barak Obama? Telling you in sweet language that your whole idea of truth is outmoded? No, what you get is someone like Elijah, or John the Baptist, I'm like them. I dress better. But I get their Spirit. Dennislwatson - "Doesn't this make you laugh. I don't have a bone of animosity in my body. I just tell it like it is. I have this coarse fake personality that is somehow perceived here but that is not the way I am." [Then perhaps leave out the sarcasm.] "So when you keep telling me I am rude and insensitive I just shrug my shoulders because all I do is tell you when you are wrong." I teach...and by the way that makes me think, what would you expect a harbinger of truth to be like? Barak Obama? Telling you in sweet language that your whole idea of truth is outmoded? No, what you get is someone like Elijah, or John the Baptist, I'm like them. I dress better. But I get their Spirit." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dennis, as I've said, when Jan 3 comes, I won't be here saying, "I told you so" - It won't matter, and wouldn't be Christ-like.  Imho, perhaps, you should consider that your interpretation to count from Sept 23, 50 days, or 40 days, or 99 days, or from any date to find the day of the rapture, was incorrect, and your interpretation of Amos was flawed.
The question is, on Jan 3, will you be here in humility acknowledging your mistake. ?? Or will you simply go on, not saying anything to all whom you said are wrong. ??
Again, I'm not a moderator nor do I speak for any of them. I have to agree with @timeoftheend. If you really wanted to encourage and build up the body, why not simply answer questions, when people see holes in your theory, or point out discrepancies in your interpretation??
If your goal is to encourage - great! I love your enthusiasm and passion, but why the sarcasm. ?? [Like in your response to Boraddict, and SK, and me and others] You didn't explain or answer my question about where is the scripture that says we must count 50 or 60 or 40 or 12, from Sept 23. to get the rapture date. ?? The Prophets have been dead for 2000 years. Are you saying that since then, God didn't do anything without telling these dead prophets?? Or other prophets? It's just an honest question. You say you're not a prophet, but your entire theory is based on the assumption/ Eisegesis that this verse from Amos means that God will tell the date of the rapture to someone, and he revealed it to you.
Maranatha, Even So Come, Lord Jesus
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Post by krnboitae on Dec 22, 2017 6:05:37 GMT -6
Lets forgive each other just as Jesus forgave us for our sins. And start loving each other!!! If we hate each other, this is what Satan wants. We are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
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Post by mike on Dec 22, 2017 7:08:26 GMT -6
dennislwatson - please be a man of your word and honor what you said here in the Psalms of Ascent thread December 19th
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 22, 2017 9:41:55 GMT -6
So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom. (Psalms 90:12)Do you think there is any, any, any possibility that God wants us to number our days? You know, Hah! Like when you do Bible study and you get to 50 then a connected 50, and it lines up with Leviticus 23:15&16, or maybe number our days according to Enoch (365), or maybe number our days according to being a child of Abraham by faith and Abraham was conceived of Isaac when he was 99 and then the man-child was born when he was 100, maybe number our days like the Psalms at 99 and 100
Let me pray for you all! "How is it Lord? That we could number our days? Lord we recite Psalm 123:1 and we ask for help as we strive to number our days!"Doesn't this make you laugh. I don't have a bone of animosity in my body. I just tell it like it is. I have this coarse fake personality that is somehow perceived here but that is not the way I am. So when you keep telling me I am rude and insensitive I just shrug my shoulders because all I do is tell you when you are wrong. I teach...and by the way that makes me think, what would you expect a harbinger of truth to be like? Barak Obama? Telling you in sweet language that your whole idea of truth is outmoded? No, what you get is someone like Elijah, or John the Baptist, I'm like them. I dress better. But I get their Spirit. Dennislwatson - "Doesn't this make you laugh. I don't have a bone of animosity in my body. I just tell it like it is. I have this coarse fake personality that is somehow perceived here but that is not the way I am." [Then perhaps leave out the sarcasm.] "So when you keep telling me I am rude and insensitive I just shrug my shoulders because all I do is tell you when you are wrong." I teach...and by the way that makes me think, what would you expect a harbinger of truth to be like? Barak Obama? Telling you in sweet language that your whole idea of truth is outmoded? No, what you get is someone like Elijah, or John the Baptist, I'm like them. I dress better. But I get their Spirit." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dennis, as I've said, when Jan 3 comes, I won't be here saying, "I told you so" - It won't matter, and wouldn't be Christ-like. Imho, perhaps, you should consider that your interpretation to count from Sept 23, 50 days, or 40 days, or 99 days, or from any date to find the day of the rapture, was incorrect, and your interpretation of Amos was flawed.
The question is, on Jan 3, will you be here in humility acknowledging your mistake. ?? Or will you simply go on, not saying anything to all whom you said are wrong. ??
Again, I'm not a moderator nor do I speak for any of them. I have to agree with @timeoftheend. If you really wanted to encourage and build up the body, why not simply answer questions, when people see holes in your theory, or point out discrepancies in your interpretation??
If your goal is to encourage - great! I love your enthusiasm and passion, but why the sarcasm. ?? [Like in your response to Boraddict, and SK, and me and others] You didn't explain or answer my question about where is the scripture that says we must count 50 or 60 or 40 or 12, from Sept 23. to get the rapture date. ?? The Prophets have been dead for 2000 years. Are you saying that since then, God didn't do anything without telling these dead prophets?? Or other prophets? It's just an honest question. You say you're not a prophet, but your entire theory is based on the assumption/ Eisegesis that this verse from Amos means that God will tell the date of the rapture to someone, and he revealed it to you.
Maranatha, Even So Come, Lord Jesus
Holes in my theory? I guess because I don't see the holes and I don't know where people are coming from when they point out what they consider as holes. If you believe in a Feast of Trumpets rapture, you will not agree with any of my confirming verses. NOT ONE OF THEM. So when you disagree with over 50 pages of confirming verses and concepts, I am trying to figure out why, it is impossible to answer without asking other questions. Further, I don't know if people have read my article and disagree with it. Or if they are just in general being disagreeable. There is a lot of that here.
Why the sarcasm? Oh oh I will not answer this question because it will be quoted in the next episode of BIBLE STUDIES OF ORANGE COUNTY. oops! ....really you see this as a character flaw? I love it when Jesus nails the Pharisees. He is sarcastic and calls them whitewashed sepulchures and when He does that I AM PROUD that He is my Saviour. He is my hero as well as my Saviour.
See you say, "I didn't explain or answer my question..." Did you read my article and you did not like my explanation? or You don't want to read my daunting article you simply don't agree with the idea, for instance, someone might say that if they were looking for a Feast of Trumpets rapture, or at Hanakkah, or at the next Pentecost in 2018, and if they are, then my whole article is anathema. But they don't tell me when they argue against it what their current beliefs are. That is a dishonest method of arguing. For a Feast of Trumpets person, picking apart my article would be like shooting fish in a barrel. So, your questions, even those here, are amorphous.
The prophets are dead. Their WORDS are NOT!!!!!!!!!!! What kind of a statement is THE PROPHETS ARE DEAD. Are you even sure of that right now. I bet one could use the story of the rich man and Lazarus and argue against THE PROPHETS ARE DEAD. I know about their bodies.
So you are asking me if I believe what God said through his prophet in Amos 3:7? Yes, I do believe that. You and I differ on what this verse means. Get the pitchforks this man disagrees! Run him out of town! God has revealed, I believe it, and if you say otherwise I say "Let God be true and every man be a liar." I think we will find that when we study the Bible with incorruptible minds, we will find a lot more in the Bible than even our little puny minds can come up with now. The rapture is a thing. The rapture is a thing done by God. Amos 3:7 says what?
I will state again. I am not a prophet. The prophets have spoken in living Scripture. There may be new revelation about old words. That is what Daniel 12:4 promises us. And if Daniel 12:4 was a promise for our time I think everyone ought to pay attention to what the Lord reveals. In fact, if Daniel 12:4 WAS a promise for our time, IT IS THEREFORE ESSENTIAL to get new knowledge about old verses? Yes, God revealed a new truth about old words to me. I am trying to tell the world although I know from Scripture that my task will be unenjoyable and a failure because few will believe it. Most Christians will make it to the finish line and stumble through because they won't even know there was a finish line. Some however will be running like Zamporini. I run with joy and confidence because I see a finish line. I want to present a "New Meat" offering to the Lord just as He wished. Wish you could see the joy in that as I do.
Thanks to most of you here for helping me know that I am a failure at my job of bringing encouraging truth. I knew I would be a failure because Jesus will come to most like a thief, but..... there are a few who are encouraged. For those, I am glad God put me here and being beat up like Baalam's ass is worth it. I am reminded, "It's just a flesh wound!" laughing
In litigation parties represented by counsel will over and over and over send out interrogatories. It is used primarily to drive the costs of litigation up and the other side may become overtaxed and give up or be ready to settle. I just spent the 45 minutes answering interrogatories for someone who will likely not be swayed when I would rather be seeing what God has to show me in the Psalms at these times.
See you ask this question and I don't know what you don't know. "You didn't explain or answer my question about where is the scripture that says we must count 50 or 60 or 40 or 12, from Sept 23. to get the rapture date. ??"
My article explains it the count is there. My two page article explains it. So now, what is your question? Did I not explain my theory well enough. Did I not show the connection between the Acts 2 Pentecost count and the Pentecost count from the SECOND GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN OF 9/23/2017. I just don't know how to answer you. Here is the two page explanation that I posted before. THE END-3-2-2.pdf (334.61 KB) If this does not explain then I have nothing further. Sorry.
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 22, 2017 9:44:10 GMT -6
dennislwatson - please be a man of your word and honor what you said here in the Psalms of Ascent thread December 19th |
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 22, 2017 9:51:55 GMT -6
Hey Saints. Here is an interesting IDEA from the BIBLE.
Why "In the air?"
At First Fruits, the High Priest lifted an ephah of barley in the air as part of that celebration, that that bunch of barley stalks, lifted in the air, represented Jesus Christ being resurrected and ascending to the Father to present His blood an offering for sin. That is how Jesus fulfilled First Fruits and it started a count to Pentecost.
Then, at Pentecost, the next divine appointment, initiating 50 days later, the High Priest lifted two loaves of bread in the air representing I think, both Jews and Gentiles who when COMPLETE (loaves are many many many grains having been processed, made complete (Pentecost) into loaves) are the Church and each one of us, who is harvested, is thus an individual grain that becomes a part of the "new meat" which is part of that offering and that loaf.
Once again, at the rapture, you are called "New Meat" because you were just harvested. This all confirms a connection to the termination of Pentecost and the harvest of Pentecost and that is what my entire thread is about.
Yes, the instructions we're made for the Jews but the subject behind it all, mysteriously, IS ALL ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH and we can learn from it even if at the rapture, we don't have two loaves of new meat to raise in the air.
When the question about the required offering of a new meat offering unto the Lord after the rapture is presented to you… please understand Saints! You are the offering of new meat that is brought to God. Further, you are now a priest unto the order of Melchizedek. You Saint, are the one offering yourself as a new meat (just been harvested) offering to God. So prepare your hearts. The Psalms of ascent are just for you.
When, upon being raptured, you see the incredible beauty that surrounds you and beckons you and the gifts that God has given you, what else could you do? You offer yourself as a living sacrifice of new meat and you cast your crowns to Him.
Do you see our connection to our Lord Jesus? He, post resurrection, also offered Himself as a new meat offering to God and He Himself was the both the offering and the presenter (the priest) of that offering to God. Now, it is our turn. At the rapture, we will offer ourselves as a new meat offering unto the Lord and as Melchizedekian priests in the kingdom, we will be authorized to accomplish it.
Blessings Saints. Soon we rise and shine. so don't despise and pine
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Post by dennislwatson on Dec 22, 2017 10:46:30 GMT -6
CONCLUSION ON THE FIRST FOUR POINTS
These four points are essential to this idea.
1) The sign: THE SECOND GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN OF September 23, 2017 is a sign from God about the Resurrection of the Church.
2) We are given a count and a count that was used by God at the FIRST GREAT RESURRECTION SIGN (Jesus raised) at Pentecost in Acts 2 was used in such a way that the termination of Pentecost, may also have a count.
3) What was started at Pentecost (conception of the Church) has to end and I am suggesting in this article that it will end when the complete count is used and that count will be completed on December 31, 2017.
4) For the second time in history, on December 31, 2017 or the end thereof, when the rapture is completed in a moment of time, there will be a new meat offering unto the Lord in heaven. First it was the head offering the sacrifice at Jesus ascension. Now it is the body.
That's the theory. Won't be long and we find out "if it holds water"!
Blessings Saints. Might as well get yourselves prepared. The Psalms of Ascent are great for it.
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Post by boraddict on Dec 23, 2017 23:59:14 GMT -6
Hi Dennis. Today is December 23rd and there are 7 days left before the 31st. If nothing happens on the 31st that pertains to the rapture, then do you have a secondary date or scenario to apply? The reason I ask is that in the past I have established a number of dates that failed to produce the desired results; the rapture etc. I never established a secondary date because I was committed to the date at hand; a date that did not produce results.
If your date of 31 December does not result in the rapture, then where do you go from there? Personally, I think the rapture off the earth is at the end of the 7 years. However, I find that a rapture does exist in the beginning as well. Thus, in my opinion the rapture you are speaking of is not the rapture off the earth. Not that it matters. However, my calculations show this rapture to take place after the beast makes his move to rule the earth, and it is then that the seven weeks (50 days) apply as a Passover. I am probably wrong in my analysis but it may be the case that our searching is what really counts and not actually getting everything right.
So please consider this posting as a simple communication from one searcher to another; because, it is not my intent to be inflammatory.
Thus, what do you see as the next date for consideration if any?
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Post by krnboitae on Dec 25, 2017 18:34:17 GMT -6
Hi Dennis. Today is December 23rd and there are 7 days left before the 31st. If nothing happens on the 31st that pertains to the rapture, then do you have a secondary date or scenario to apply? The reason I ask is that in the past I have established a number of dates that failed to produce the desired results; the rapture etc. I never established a secondary date because I was committed to the date at hand; a date that did not produce results.
If your date of 31 December does not result in the rapture, then where do you go from there? Personally, I think the rapture off the earth is at the end of the 7 years. However, I find that a rapture does exist in the beginning as well. Thus, in my opinion the rapture you are speaking of is not the rapture off the earth. Not that it matters. However, my calculations show this rapture to take place after the beast makes his move to rule the earth, and it is then that the seven weeks (50 days) apply as a Passover. I am probably wrong in my analysis but it may be the case that our searching is what really counts and not actually getting everything right.
So please consider this posting as a simple communication from one searcher to another; because, it is not my intent to be inflammatory.
Thus, what do you see as the next date for consideration if any? Hi boraddict! Mr.Watson is not able to see the board. He is like me, he doesnt have any other date. Only 12/31. All the evidence we found point to 12/31. At this point we are not thinking about what if rapture doesnt happen on 12/31. We are pretty confident about 12/31. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2017 18:42:26 GMT -6
Hi boraddict! Mr.Watson is not able to see the board. He is like me, he doesnt have any other date. Only 12/31. All the evidence we found point to 12/31. At this point we are not thinking about what if rapture doesnt happen on 12/31. We are pretty confident about 12/31. Pretty confidant? I thought you said God "told" you it was 12/31? If God told me something I would be 100% confidant. Are you now saying that God did not tell you the rapture is 12/31? |
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Post by mike on Dec 25, 2017 20:09:55 GMT -6
boraddict Dennis is able to view the forum again at 12:01 AM on 1/1/18. He can respond to you then should he choose to come back. krnboitae I agree with SilentKnight here. You (and Dennis) have tried to convince many that the rapture will occur on 12/31 with circumstancial evidence at best. You have gone as far as "God told me". If we are raptured 12/31 I will come find you and Dennis before I see Jesus to ask you to forgive me. However should we remain here I'd expect similar sentiment to those you've said "God told me" to both here and otherwise
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Post by krnboitae on Dec 25, 2017 21:27:25 GMT -6
Hi boraddict! Mr.Watson is not able to see the board. He is like me, he doesnt have any other date. Only 12/31. All the evidence we found point to 12/31. At this point we are not thinking about what if rapture doesnt happen on 12/31. We are pretty confident about 12/31. Pretty confidant? I thought you said God "told" you it was 12/31? If God told me something I would be 100% confidant. Are you now saying that God did not tell you the rapture is 12/31? Yes 100% |
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Post by krnboitae on Dec 25, 2017 21:43:04 GMT -6
boraddict Dennis is able to view the forum again at 12:01 AM on 1/1/18. He can respond to you then should he choose to come back. krnboitae I agree with SilentKnight here. You (and Dennis) have tried to convince many that the rapture will occur on 12/31 with circumstancial evidence at best. You have gone as far as "God told me". If we are raptured 12/31 I will come find you and Dennis before I see Jesus to ask you to forgive me. However should we remain here I'd expect similar sentiment to those you've said "God told me" to both here and otherwise I am 100%. I have never asked Mr.Watson how many %. |
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Post by davewatchman on Dec 26, 2017 8:19:54 GMT -6
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