"God's Roadmap to the End" Discussion

Well there is the "1/3 of the stars of heaven cast to earth" scenario. I'm having trouble understanding what the issue with the asteroid theory is exactly or how disproving that throws off all of his theories? We know that at least once, something will be coming in and strike the earth, wherever it originated from. Let's just say nothing happens to Jupiter and there is no debris field. Revelation still describes at least one "something" slamming into the earth. How exactly does this affect the proposition that Jesus returns at the mid-point? 

I don't think the temple will be rebuilt before the covenant. I think just because we can't imagine a scenario that would allow the Jews to build their temple in the current situation doesn't mean nothing can happen that could lead to that. We have no idea what's going to happen after the rapture of the church, really. What's the great delusion? If it's "aliens" or "nephilim" then we have absolutely no idea how people are going to respond to that. We can think we have an idea... but in reality we just don't know. If they are terrifying, maybe people WILL just let them take over and not fight. Maybe the prophecy of Obadiah will be fulfilled and there won't be any "Palestinians" to protest the Jews claim to the Temple Mount locally. Maybe there's a huge war against Israel and they win, increase their land and take over the Temple Mount. It won't take a whole lot to make the Temple Mount clean to be able to do the sacrifices. They can do that without the actual temple building. Jaco proposes that the AC enslaves the Jews but allows them to build their temple, but it's really for him. I don't know if I go along with this. It seems more like to me that the AC allows Israel to be independent for the first 3 1/2 years and that they can build their temple. At the mid-point, he decides to invade the land (as described in Dan) and set himself up as God. 1/3 of the people flee to the wilderness. 9/10 of the people left (apart from those killed) will be forced into slavery and trafficked to other nations. Jesus could still return during all of this but not claim His right to be king, but rather have an encampment from where He wages war and protects the Remannt until His Appointed Time to be crowned King. 

mike, working on it. BTW, not a prophecy expert either. But so far, the "experts" haven't been too useful.

Technically, Jaco's Jupiter theory hasn't failed. It just didn't get collided with on the date he picked out, which was based on when Jupiter crossed an imaginary line in the sky. His date failed. We don't know if the collision will actually happen or not. As long as the rapture hasn't occurred or we otherwise discover what the dragon is, this theory could still be true.

If the rapture doesn't occur on the 23rd or 24th will you throw out the idea that rapture will happen at all?

Now, granted his theory is a bit weak in the scripture department... but I think we can just let this one go as it's not important to the rest of His timeline. The asteroids or whatever that will hit the earth do not have to come from Jupiter to still fulfill the prophecies in Revelation.

Now whether there is an asteroid that hits the earth and causes a split in the crust which is also the crevice that opens up to swallow the flood being spewed from the dragon while simultaneously occurring the moment Jesus stands on the Mt of Olives, that's a whole different can of worms. I could accept that perhaps the earth opening and swallowing the flood is not the same as the deep valley that will be created when Jesus touches down, but what I can't reconcile is the dual fleeing of Israel.

IF Jesus returns at the mid-point... I don't think He'll be hiding. Maybe He does stay in Zion after He lands on Mt. Olives and boots the AC out but that verse about His throne being set in Elam is very strange. He might be with the remnant at times (He'll be able to appear and disappear just like after His resurrection), but Revelation says "they will nourish the woman in the wilderness." I think that probably means some of those saints who comes back with Him. He will have his saint army (and possibly the demonic locust horde and the other 200 million horse one). I think He'd be waging war with the AC, but not in a total-annihilation way until the appointed time.

Just off the top of my head... some of the reasons that I wonder this is:
1) The AC gathers all the nations to Megiddo for a battle against Jerusalem. It will take several weeks to amass that army. Why would they gather against Jerusalem if there is no enemy in Jerusalem?
2) I'm not sold that the seals occur prior to the Trib. The 6th seal indicates that the people will cry out for the rocks to fall on them to hide them from the "wrath of the Lamb" and "He who sits on the throne." The earthquake described with the 6th seal sounds a lot like the earthquake that occurs when Jesus stands on Mt of Olives. Why would the people be afraid of the Lamb sitting on the Throne (who they don't believe in and/or believe exists) unless HE was actually there and they saw Him arrive?

Hey mike and @stephan and anyone else who has been reading through this thread...

I just want to say... I'm pooped.

I have been reading through a ton of scripture (mostly Isaiah and Jeremiah) and compiling some lists of verses that may support or go against Jaco Prinsloo's theories. The more I read, the more pieces of the puzzle fall into place for other areas of God's prophetic timeline and I find myself looking into things that are not directly related to the task at hand, namely, trying to find scripture that could indicate or discourage an interpretation of Jesus' public second coming being at the midpoint of the Tribulation when Israel flees. I'm not going to list scriptures here because like I said I compiled a ton and it's not exhaustive (though it has been exhausting!). I'm just going to put my general conclusions of what I found based upon my own reading of scripture:

1. The 70th week is a complete 7 year period with no interruptions or gaps, and Jacob's Trouble is part of it or another name for it.
2. Israel will be enslaved at some time within the 70th week, most likely as part of the "covenant with death and Sheol."
3. It seems like at some point Israel will flee into Egypt but they and Egypt will be destroyed. I believe this is part of the war between the King of the North and King of the South, with the King of the North being the Assyrian (the antichrist).
4. God repeatedly, in reference to Edom, says He will spread eagles' wings over it, much like the reference of the Woman fleeing into the wilderness in Revelation.
5. God specifically says over and over how he will judge and destroy Egypt and Assyria/Babylon along with Judah/Jerusalem/Jacob but then explains how He will heal them too.
6. The destruction of Gog of Magog is part of the Great Winepress (whether this battle occurs over a short period of time or long is up for debate). I think Gog is another name for the AC and it could be that the invasion occurs at the beginning of the 7 years but that God doesn't destroy him until the end.
7. There will definitely be other nations of people who repopulate the earth during the Millenium, so there is no way ALL people who do not take the mark of the beast will be killed, whether or not it turns them into nephilim.
8. Jesus could return at the mid-point and take over Zion and begin to wage war against the AC, or it could be at the end. I didn't come to a conclusion either way, and it, frankly, no longer matters to me 🙃

So overall, most of his theories, in my opinion, are rubbish 😇.

Still not finished with his book, but I want to bring some points to the surface where I see some problems with.

1. page 49 of his book
He cites Jer 26:28

He concludes from this verse, that God will destroy all people of all nations on earth during the tribulation. Only some Israelites will remain alive after the tribulation and the Nephilim.

Seems a bit stretched to me, I would rather imply, God is going to destroy nations in the sense that the nations would not exist any longer as states or empires.
Furthermore, the Millenium will of course see people of other nations, remind the exhortation to the gentiles to attend the Feast of Tabernacles in Zec 14:16


2. page 72 of his book (this part is about the flood, Rev 12 speaks of)
This is where he assumes, that Israel will flee to the mountains, according to the admonition of Jesus in Matth 24:16

He links Rev 12:16 to a crevice in the crust of the earth, caused by an asteroid impact and Israel is fleeing because of a flood caused by the asteroid.

Zec 14:5 says

Here we read that the people shall flee to the valley of the mountains not to the mountains. Nevertheless does Jaco link these two passages together, despite fleeing into a valley would not make much sense if they are fleeing a flood.


3. page 84 of his book (The shortening of the days)
He says:


Why is he so sure that his interpretation of Rev 8:12 and Pro 10:27 is watertight?

If really the days are shortened this way, then the whole nature would come apart at the seames.
Every creation is accustomed to a 24 hour day. I can't imagine the consequences....


My personal conclusion:
I stopped here with my analysis of his timeline, because I see too many flaws in his argumentation.
Maybe some of his ideas hold some water, but time is running out for me and for now.
I need to focus on other more important (for me) things for now and I am sure, that the 144,000 will surely be able to explain the real timeline way better than we now.

And IMO knowing the exact timeline is not necessary for salvation. It's interesting, but not a "must know", at least not for me.