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Post by Gary on Sept 1, 2017 12:47:09 GMT -6
Well, I'm not sure if this is for or against, but at least some in the Church will hear about it. This video has 400k views:
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Post by Gary on Sept 1, 2017 14:01:37 GMT -6
And apparently India, too:
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Post by watchmanjim on Sept 1, 2017 23:24:02 GMT -6
The German one is much more scholarly in nature than the Indian one, but at least the Indian people are studying the sign. We already have the Indian one posted with a discussion about it at: unsealed.boards.net/thread/693/say-who-guys |
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Post by whatif on Sept 2, 2017 12:20:45 GMT -6
Maybe stephan could give us some insight as to what is being said in the German video! Stephan, would you be willing to take a look at it and tell us the highlights?
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Post by katmak on Sept 3, 2017 12:13:41 GMT -6
Y'all...
Scary German Guy seems ALL IN about this sign! I'm only 25 minutes in, but brother has hit the high notes, using:
- graphics from Judah Ben Samuel's Jewish timeline (120, 100, 70 & 50 years)
-graphics and talks about the Jewish Feats Days
-screenshot about Robert Braker video
-the all-too familiar picture of the woman and moon, sun, etc
-Stellarium software
-quoting the Genesis 1:14-15, Luke 21:25-26
Also, judging by the comments, the folks are shocked, hopeful and all out praising God
I don't know a lick of German aside from watching "The Monster Squad" when I was a kid, but going by the teacher's hesitancy and scholarly demeanor, he seems to really be trying to just let folks know 'hey, stuff's about to get really REAL!'
This may be a great witnessing tool for my Getman origin friend. I can ask him to translate for me and maybe give him and his wife a 'head's up' without seeming to preachy. Thank you for posting this! Word is indeed getting out!
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Post by whatif on Sept 3, 2017 13:00:53 GMT -6
Awesome, katmak! Thank you!
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Post by katmak on Sept 3, 2017 13:18:23 GMT -6
More than an hour in to the German talk. He showed a clip from a movie with John exiled on Patmos, receiving Revelation. They also did the Stellarium years' hyper speed up of Virgo until conception and thru September 23rd. I'm wondering if he is a German Jew or at least one who is sympathetic, since there's a Menorah draped with a Jewish prayer cloth in the room. He went on to quote the bible about the wise men and the Star of Bethlehem. Also of note: he called up a picture of the stars in the heavens, trying to figure out the dragon. He pointed out three possibilities: Draco, Serpens and another snake type thing. He seems to think that that formation near the feet of the Jungfrau (Virgo) with Michael holding it could be the dragon, stating that the Corna Borealis has seven stars. This guy has mad Parable of the Vineyard vibes., I think I could nap to his voice  Sorry about the typos...nerves and excitement seem to be the order of these last few months! |
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Post by whatif on Sept 3, 2017 13:39:49 GMT -6
Sorry about the typos...nerves and excitement seem to be the order of these last few months! No problem, katmak! I know that feeling! |
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Post by katmak on Sept 3, 2017 13:54:04 GMT -6
So....the conclusion to the German talk was interesting. He hit the Matthew 24 highlights, but didn't seem to say much about rapture or escaping the tribulation, unless I missed something. He went on to cite Romans 11:24-25 about us Gentiles being grafted into the family of faith, I assume because culturally speaking, some of the Germans must still be cutting out guilty coupons from the world wars (just my interpretation). He truly seemed to want to encourage the people, but without a chance to escape the things coming, I don't know how encouraged I would be feeling.
Adored the picture of the folded Angels' wings, just like over the Ark of the Covenant, but between them was a heavenly doorway, emitting light and ASLAN the lion! He set at the top of a stairway, which has the world embedded in it. Very Salvador Dali-esque picture/painting.
The only ick vibe I got was that he was hawking his book several times. I think the title in English would be "The Way, The Truth and the Light" by Martin Baron, but he lacked that salivating "buy my book or else you're going to hell" schitck I have seen with other preachers.
Will be interested to read or hear from actual language speakers about what this guy actually said!
That's all from the peanut gallery. Back to lurking!
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Post by sawdy on Sept 3, 2017 13:55:29 GMT -6
katmakThanks for taking time to listen to the German video. I think you probably got a decent just of it. It is interesting to see that even if you don't understand a language, it is still possible to follow along and still receive at least part of the message. I took German in high school (Grades 10-11) and my maternal grandparents were German. Unfortunately, I never really learned how to converse in the language and although I can pick out several words in a sentence, there still is a lot of verbs that I am unfamiliar with and so my understanding is very limited. It seems like it is a decent message. It would be interesting to know what his insights are.
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Post by katmak on Sept 3, 2017 14:12:43 GMT -6
Thanks sawdy! You're so right about being able to pick up on clues, even though unable to speak a language. I get more out of praise and worship at our church, watching the ASL sign language person interpret with her hands, than all the emo singing with the band! German, huh? I took French I used to think that the German language lacked the romanticism of the 'romantic languages', plus all the pablum we were fed as kids in school, not to mention the pop cultural bias. I am happy to report that I've found the language more lovely as the years have rolled by. I was blessed to visit that country in the nineties, what a lovely people, even though I looked NOTHING like them, they were so warm and encouraging my botching of their tongue. And BOY, they had the best places to dance...until 3/4 a.m., when the summer sun started coming up! Shocked that even with the language barrier, I was still blessed and encouraged for our brothers and sisters in Europe! Hope we get to meet up with them when all is said and done |
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Post by whatif on Sept 3, 2017 14:49:48 GMT -6
I took French Moi aussi, katmak! |
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Post by sawdy on Sept 3, 2017 20:17:41 GMT -6
Thanks sawdy! I was blessed to visit that country in the nineties, what a lovely people, even though I looked NOTHING like them, they were so warm and encouraging my botching of their tongue. And BOY, they had the best places to dance...until 3/4 a.m., when the summer sun started coming up! Shocked that even with the language barrier, I was still blessed and encouraged for our brothers and sisters in Europe! Hope we get to meet up with them when all is said and done I was supposed to go after graduating from High School with my Grandparents (which is why I took the language), but I never went. My sister and brother both went. My sister's funny story was that on the very last night she spent in a sleepy little town, one of our relatives mentioned there was a disco that people travelled to from over an hour away! She was so disappointed that she didn't get to spend more than only one night at the disco. Haha. It was packed and she enjoyed her one night but was disappointed she didn't find out about it sooner. Lol I pray for her often as she has never outgrown partying. She likes my posts on Facebook, but never enquires farther. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 2:49:02 GMT -6
Y'all... Scary German Guy seems ALL IN about this sign! I'm only 25 minutes in, but brother has hit the high notes, using: - graphics from Judah Ben Samuel's Jewish timeline (120, 100, 70 & 50 years) -graphics and talks about the Jewish Feats Days -screenshot about Robert Braker video -the all-too familiar picture of the woman and moon, sun, etc -Stellarium software -quoting the Genesis 1:14-15, Luke 21:25-26 Also, judging by the comments, the folks are shocked, hopeful and all out praising God I don't know a lick of German aside from watching "The Monster Squad" when I was a kid, but going by the teacher's hesitancy and scholarly demeanor, he seems to really be trying to just let folks know 'hey, stuff's about to get really REAL!' This may be a great witnessing tool for my Getman origin friend. I can ask him to translate for me and maybe give him and his wife a 'head's up' without seeming to preachy. Thank you for posting this! Word is indeed getting out! As a native German, I would like to add one more thing for now (later I will reevaluate this video again for me and come back with a hopefully more detailed analysis). It's true, that this guy presents the Rev12 thing in a very sober way, and he seems to be (at least partially) convinced that there is something real and true behind this. One of his conclusions is, that (I cite) "the church still has a job to do". This indeed is a true statement. We as His body are committed to do HIS work and spread the gospel! However, his opinion or expectation (as far as I understand his teaching and overtones) is, that he is expecting the Rev12 sign to be a possible trigger or sign for a new "Awakening". Furthermore he cites a woman named Kat Kerr at the end of the video. Don't know much of her, maybe some of you can enlighten me? My research yields some interesting and maybe (IMO) questionable results on her teachings. I am always a little bit cautious about people, who claim to receive direct revelations from God or having access to the throne room. |
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Post by whatif on Sept 4, 2017 9:05:57 GMT -6
Thank you so much, stephan, for helping us out with this!
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