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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 28, 2017 23:57:23 GMT -6
Steve Cioccolanti makes me cringe sometimes, but I like him, and he is a key Rev. 12 sign supporter in Australia, with a worldwide video audience.
He makes a lot of interesting points and observations here.
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Post by brad on Jul 29, 2017 11:22:24 GMT -6
Excelent video... many great additions to confirming blood moons.... ! A must see!
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Post by socalexile on Jul 29, 2017 11:42:43 GMT -6
This guy is associated with the New Apostolic Reformation, correct?
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 29, 2017 12:14:53 GMT -6
This guy is associated with the New Apostolic Reformation, correct? I'm not quite sure. I've watched a number of his videos and I certainly can't endorse everything he says or does, but he does seem to have a heart for Jesus, a love for souls, makes an attempt at discernment in the world, and acknowledges the Rev. 12 sign. |
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Post by socalexile on Jul 29, 2017 12:59:11 GMT -6
This guy is associated with the New Apostolic Reformation, correct? I'm not quite sure. I've watched a number of his videos and I certainly can't endorse everything he says or does, but he does seem to have a heart for Jesus, a love for souls, makes an attempt at discernment in the world, and acknowledges the Rev. 12 sign. I remember seeing one of his videos a while ago where he supported a NAR preacher as "a prophet" what had a record of false prophecies - I just can't remember which one, lol It was Rick Joyner, who does have a record of false prophecies and false teachings here and here. Cioccolanti endorses him here as a genuine "prophet". I read his doctrinal statement on his website. He does teach that speaking in tongues is a necessary result of Spirit baptism - which 1 Cor 12 and 14 contradict. Not sure what "total provision" means, especially when his site claims financial and physical provision with out-of-context verses, which send up red flags for me. His website also has a lot of him and his merchandise all over it, which also sends up red flags. I'll pass on this guy. He might be promoting the Rev 12 Sign, but he's not a guy that is a good doctrinal source IMO. YMMV. |
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Post by socalexile on Jul 29, 2017 13:40:49 GMT -6
Please let me be clear: I say this out of love and concern so that people can be aware of some bad, bad elements in the church. Rock Joyner endorsed Todd Bentley's "restoration" after he got caught cheating on his disabled wife, then divorced her to marry his mistress. Todd Bentley is the guy that slugs old women and cancer patients in his circus-act of a show, saying they are healed. This is a video of this restoration, Joyner is there in the back. Notice how Todd Loses control - what does the Bible say about the Holy Spirit? This in Galatians 5: and 1 Cor 14: These men that promote "drunkenness of the spirit", roll on the floor, hitting people claiming healing, losing control, etc. are NOT showing the Holy Spirit - this is a counterfeit, and if Steve Cioccolanti promotes this, well, it doesn't speak highly of his knowledge of the bible, the Holy Spirit, or his discernment. Again, YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary). |
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 29, 2017 21:49:32 GMT -6
Yes, I agree with the fact that I can't endorse those kinds of things either, and the fact that Cioccolanti gets involved with people like that is the kind of reason I said in the first post, that he makes me cringe sometimes.
And for a few other reasons.
And yet, I do find many of his videos refreshing and insightful, and I think he intends well.
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Post by mike on Jul 31, 2017 6:01:03 GMT -6
Yes, I agree with the fact that I can't endorse those kinds of things either, and the fact that Cioccolanti gets involved with people like that is the kind of reason I said in the first post, that he makes me cringe sometimes. And for a few other reasons. And yet, I do find many of his videos refreshing and insightful, and I think he intends well. I feel exactly the same way about Steve. His motives and heart seem to be on the right track. Remember (everyone) we are not perfect (yet). We all make mistakes and have some doctrinal differences. Our understanding of the Word is not complete or fulfilled yet. I don't see that Steve posts heretical videos at this time, so I dont "throw out the baby with the bathwater". I watch a few different "truthers" on YouTube as well. Some believe the earth is round, some flat, but that doesnt mean they dont have valid points in other areas.  |
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Post by Gary on Jul 31, 2017 8:41:51 GMT -6
Good thoughts. I try to avoid the round/flat debate. I personally believe the Bible teaches a round earth and I think the evidence is observable, but I could be wrong. I also listen to both sides because they have good things to say on other topics. But to be honest, I think the flat-earth theory is a major distraction from the Gospel and the nearness of the rapture.
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Post by brad on Jul 31, 2017 9:30:57 GMT -6
Steve brings many new insights to light. The one that blew me away most was the fact that the surface temperature of the sun is 5778 degrees Kelvin!
Also, the fact that sunset occurs in Jerusalem the same minute as the Eclipse hits Oregon on the 21st of August!
Many nuggets here... worth a look for sure.
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Post by kjs on Jul 31, 2017 11:30:48 GMT -6
Steve Cioccolanti makes me cringe sometimes -- as well!
Sometimes he seems to be "SPOT ON" -- other times he does not even touch the target!
In the video -- he makes the following claim -- that the total eclipse path for both years (ie the X) -- aligns with the rivers that divided America in 1/3......
UMM... no it does not !!!
The Cairo Mississippi River Bridge (located in Wickliffe, KY 42087) -- is pretty much the Bridge that crosses the Mississippi River where the Ohio River and the Mississippi meet.
Neither Cario, IL -- nor Wickliffe, KY -- are within the PATH of Total eclipse for 2017
So how in the world can he make the claim? Granted they are "CLOSE" -- but they are not in the total eclipse path.
His quote from the video is that the X aligned right over were these rivers meet.....
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 31, 2017 11:55:19 GMT -6
It is very close. Just a few miles away.
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Post by kjs on Jul 31, 2017 12:38:29 GMT -6
It is very close. Just a few miles away. As the saying goes -- close only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades........ If God intended to indicate that the meeting of the rivers that divide the states into 1/3 -- as being some type of indicator -- that X would be smack on top of that bridge. (IMHO) The 2017 Eclipse (total) misses both cities by several miles. The 2024 Eclipse (total) connects both cities within that radius (but only about 2 miles or so per map view)...... The 2017 Eclipse path needs to drop south about 5 to 10 miles and the 2024 needs to process about 5 miles to the east....before one could conclude that the X does mark the rivers as a boundary. BUT, my over all point is Steve said it did (or does) -- and I calling that a "FOUL" -- saying no it does not. |
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Post by yardstick on Jul 31, 2017 12:46:32 GMT -6
It is very close. Just a few miles away. As the saying goes -- close only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades........ If God intended to indicate that the meeting of the rivers that divide the states into 1/3 -- as being some type of indicator -- that X would be smack on top of that bridge. (IMHO) The 2017 Eclipse (total) misses both cities by several miles. The 2024 Eclipse (total) connects both cities within that radius (but only about 2 miles or so per map view)...... The 2017 Eclipse path needs to drop south about 5 to 10 miles and the 2024 needs to process about 5 miles to the east....before one could conclude that the X does mark the rivers as a boundary. BUT, my over all point is Steve said it did (or does) -- and I calling that a "FOUL" -- saying no it does not. Is there a possibility that the fault line actually runs where the eclipse paths cross, regardless of the cities, or 'top-side' landmarks are? I wonder if there is an underground river 'source' for the river that we see? |
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Post by kjs on Jul 31, 2017 13:11:51 GMT -6
 Some maps like this one show most of the fault activity significantly under the merge (see upper right corner -- Cario)  Others like this one just give a wide range of area -- which places the merge of the rivers about in the middle of the Fault zone |
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