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Post by mike on Jul 26, 2017 11:13:05 GMT -6
I was relaxing and watching a little TV last night and my mind began to wander a little...I started to think to myself "Wow, it seems very likely the rapture is going to be a reality not only in my lifetime, but probably in the next 60 days!" I then started to think about my material possessions being "left behind". I thought "wonder what will happen to my car(s), my stuff in my home, my delinquent payments on those things, my job and the people there, perhaps my boss wondering why I'm not showing up to work anymore especially not even calling". I found myself being "caught up" in wondering about the things of this world.
Just being honest here...I don't know about any of you but I think about stuff like this. I do realize the Holy Spirit brought me back to the reality of "no need to concern yourself with those things once you are gone". It really is difficult to wrap my mind around this. I feel like its similar to someone knowing they are going pass away very soon. Weird right?
The other side of the thoughts are "who the #$%& cares I'll be with the Lord in Heaven forever!!" Then the rest of my mind thinks "I am going to meet Him and I have no idea what I'll say, feel, think". Sometimes my reaction is embarrassment. I am humiliated by the way I (have and still too often do) conduct myself. Not that I could ever earn the gift of salvation, but i certainly fail at "12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure. 14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings: 15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world; " Philippians 2:12-15
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Post by delo63 on Jul 26, 2017 11:25:58 GMT -6
I can relate, honestly I could care less about the material stuff. I'm just concerned what's going to happen to my cats lol
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Post by yardstick on Jul 26, 2017 13:27:54 GMT -6
I was relaxing and watching a little TV last night and my mind began to wander a little...I started to think to myself "Wow, it seems very likely the rapture is going to be a reality not only in my lifetime, but probably in the next 60 days!" I then started to think about my material possessions being "left behind". I thought "wonder what will happen to my car(s), my stuff in my home, my delinquent payments on those things, my job and the people there, perhaps my boss wondering why I'm not showing up to work anymore especially not even calling". I found myself being "caught up" in wondering about the things of this world. Just being honest here...I don't know about any of you but I think about stuff like this. I do realize the Holy Spirit brought me back to the reality of "no need to concern yourself with those things once you are gone". It really is difficult to wrap my mind around this. I feel like its similar to someone knowing they are going pass away very soon. Weird right? The other side of the thoughts are "who the #$%& cares I'll be with the Lord in Heaven forever!!" Then the rest of my mind thinks "I am going to meet Him and I have no idea what I'll say, feel, think". Sometimes my reaction is embarrassment. I am humiliated by the way I (have and still too often do) conduct myself. Not that I could ever earn the gift of salvation, but i certainly fail at "12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure. 14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings: 15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world; " Philippians 2:12-15 I have been struggling with this same thing. I like to be prepared for things and have closure on them also, but there is only so much I can do. I have drafted a letter and placed it in an envelope on my desk at work for them to find. I dont care about my 'stuff' but I want to make it so that if someone needs it, its available to them. I still have to convocate my extended family and try to see if I can get them to work together to make the entire family assets available to who ever is left behind. Mostly what I care about is my pet cat. I want to be a good steward for her even when I am gone. If she get stuck inside and there is no food? How will she be taken care of if I am gone? I do not have any problem with turning her outside to fend for herself, rather than be stuck inside to starve to death. She is an inside cat - so you can see my dilemma. I suspect that most raptured people's 'stuff' will be repossessed if it is encumbered. For the economic catastrophe that we expect, I think nationalizing all assets of the population of a given country will be what occurs in most places. It would be easy to dragoon the Census Bureau in the U.S. to go from house to house to see if anyone is home. If no response in 3-7 days, I bet they confiscate the house and whatever possessions are in it. I just wouldnt want my pets confiscated and euthanized.
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Post by mike on Jul 26, 2017 13:34:16 GMT -6
But then Yardstick, dont you at some point realize what it is youre thinking about and remind yourself of where you'll be and say "i wonder if i'll give it a thought". I sure do
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Post by kjs on Jul 26, 2017 14:23:14 GMT -6
Interesting Mike Last night I too had similar thoughts (ANYONE ELSE?)
Actually, it was early this morning (maybe even half dreaming) and I was going how am going safely track my bill payments…..
I am somewhat old fashioned when it comes to paying bills, I take each statement I receive, verify the charge amounts appear correct, journal entry the expense and the check number used and the amount; stuff the statement and check into the return envelope, stamp it and later mail it with all the others. All the detail statements – have the check number and amount and date written on them as well and these piles of paper are stored for about a year (usually closer to two years) – at which point I shred or burn them.
My concern this morning, was how I would shred or burn these statements – if I was no longer here. Then it dawned on me – you will not be here – why care what happens to them….
As far as what I would say to Jesus – Face to Face ---
I expect I will fall on my face bawling my eyes out – thanking him for doing what I could not do for myself.
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Post by yardstick on Jul 26, 2017 14:28:12 GMT -6
But then Yardstick, dont you at some point realize what it is youre thinking about and remind yourself of where you'll be and say "i wonder if i'll give it a thought". I sure do I don't have to think about where I'll be. That's taken care of. Therefore, I can focus on others. The stuff I am prepping it isn't for me. It is for others. It is for those who will not be coming with me. It is like knowing you're going to die, so you get your house in order to provide for those you care about who you will leave behind. I dont have to care about any bills I might have. I dont have to care about all the 'stuff' i have accumulated. I only focus on those things which will functionally be useful for those who will be having to endure pandemonium. Making available to them tools and equipment for them to be able to use to try to go someplace safe. Including organizing some place that will be relatively 'safe'. I can only give them a leg up. I can't save them.
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Post by paul on Jul 26, 2017 14:55:19 GMT -6
I think that during rapture/resurrection there is gonna be some mega-shaking, so the raptureless might not even bother about those that are disappeared. :-) Some of our relatives/friends might be surprised when you appear to them in your new body like OT saints appeared to many.
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Post by yardstick on Jul 26, 2017 15:19:06 GMT -6
I think that during rapture/resurrection there is gonna be some mega-shaking, so the raptureless might not even bother about those that are disappeared. :-) Some of our relatives/friends might be surprised when you appear to them in your new body like OT saints appeared to many. Yeah, but after that, the 'system' is going to kick in requiring the mark. And someone speculated that to pay for all the damaged infrastructure, it would sure be convenient to take all the property of the raptured saints. After all, they aren't going to need it, and surely their relatives are likely to have been raptured too!
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 26, 2017 16:26:59 GMT -6
We have a thread somewhere about making preparations for those left behind. Remember it's likely the entire landscape could be burned to the ground. I hope to bury some items for people to use, and leave clues in a way they may be able to find them.
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Post by whatif on Jul 26, 2017 19:06:50 GMT -6
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Post by whatif on Jul 26, 2017 19:24:37 GMT -6
Delo63 and yardstick, I too am still wrestling with what to do for my cats. I have two elderly female cats who are indoor cats. I would hate to put them outside in anticipation that the rapture will happen, as they would be terrified and unable to defend themselves well from the neighborhood animals, and if the rapture does not happen when I expect it, I will have lost them. Perhaps alerting neighbors and family members to the fact you have cats that will need care if anything should happen--whether a natural disaster or the rapture--would be a good start for planning for the day. It might be a great conversation starter for telling them about the soon coming of Jesus, and it will give some peace of mind where our furry friends are concerned. Also, I know that the Lord understands how much we love our pets, and I am trusting that He will provide some way of safety for them for our sakes--whether that is to bring someone to help them after the rapture or to bring them up to us in heaven.
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Post by delo63 on Jul 26, 2017 20:09:44 GMT -6
I was thinking about it today and if the earthquake happens the cats probably wouldn't be safe either way
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 26, 2017 20:54:32 GMT -6
We have a parakeet and a turtle. Not sure yet what we'll do about the turtle, but I think we can leave a lot of water in the house and maybe some food out for the bird when we think the end is getting near, and leave his cage door just barely propped shut. So that any earthquakes or impact to the house, or if he gets desperately rowdy in his cage, will allow the door to pop open. Then he can get out into the house and fly around and find the water and food we can leave out for him. as for the turtle, I'm not sure. I'm considering carving a treasure clue on his shell, so that, alive or dead, he can be a clue to where they can dig for the stuff I bury.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 26, 2017 20:55:45 GMT -6
The kids also have a little lizard. Not sure what we'll do with her.
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Post by yardstick on Jul 26, 2017 22:08:53 GMT -6
Delo63 and yardstick, I too am still wrestling with what to do for my cats. I have two elderly female cats who are indoor cats. I would hate to put them outside in anticipation that the rapture will happen, as they would be terrified and unable to defend themselves well from the neighborhood animals, and if the rapture does not happen when I expect it, I will have lost them. Perhaps alerting neighbors and family members to the fact you have cats that will need care if anything should happen--whether a natural disaster or the rapture--would be a good start for planning for the day. It might be a great conversation starter for telling them about the soon coming of Jesus, and it will give some peace of mind where our furry friends are concerned. Also, I know that the Lord understands how much we love our pets, and I am trusting that He will provide some way of safety for them for our sakes--whether that is to bring someone to help them after the rapture or to bring them up to us in heaven. One plan might be to leave the window cracked wide enough for them to claw it open. Leaving the screen slightly out of kilter would allow them to scratch at it and probably dislodge it. Then they can get out.
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