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Post by yardstick on Jul 21, 2017 12:27:19 GMT -6
Aug 15, 2 BC (Stellarium's 2 BC which is 3 BC) is similar to Rev 12 but she isn't pregnant (the crown is also a bit different shape). After that, Jupiter loops around Regulus and then in June Jupiter and Venus are in conjunction. I don't know if all that was a sign of Christ's birth, but it seems likely. From what I can tell, there is a conjunction of Venus and Regulus on Sept 19 and a conjunction of Mars and Venus on Oct 5 and Jupiter and Venus on Nov 12 and Jupiter and Mars on Jan 6, 2018. This is what I was looking for: Sept 11, 3BC: Jupiter-Regulus Conjunction - Birth of Christ Sept 19, 2017: Venus-Regulus Conjunction (might be helpful to know what time this occurs?) -
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 12:27:44 GMT -6
Kjs....WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by yardstick on Jul 21, 2017 12:28:05 GMT -6
And Jupiter and Venus on September 11. ...Jupiter and Venus on Nov 12... Is there more than one?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 12:33:51 GMT -6
I meant August 11, 3 BC.
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Post by yardstick on Jul 21, 2017 12:33:54 GMT -6
If Venus represents the Christ (recalling that Jesus is the Head, but the Church is the body) we might speculate thusly:
Venus and Regulus on Sept 19 - Jesus Crowned and takes his seat on the Throne
Mars and Venus on Oct 5 - War in Heaven
Jupiter and Venus on Nov 12 - marriage supper of the Lamb
Jupiter and Mars on Jan 6 - The first seal opened.
Disclaimer: This is ONLY speculation.
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Post by Natalie on Jul 21, 2017 12:56:59 GMT -6
Aug 15, 2 BC (Stellarium's 2 BC which is 3 BC) is similar to Rev 12 but she isn't pregnant (the crown is also a bit different shape). After that, Jupiter loops around Regulus and then in June Jupiter and Venus are in conjunction. I don't know if all that was a sign of Christ's birth, but it seems likely. From what I can tell, there is a conjunction of Venus and Regulus on Sept 19 and a conjunction of Mars and Venus on Oct 5 and Jupiter and Venus on Nov 12 and Jupiter and Mars on Jan 6, 2018. This is what I was looking for: Sept 11, 3BC: Jupiter-Regulus Conjunction - Birth of Christ Sept 19, 2017: Venus-Regulus Conjunction (might be helpful to know what time this occurs?) - I gotta make a correction on that. They start touching on the 19th, but the 20th about 3 or 4 am Jerusalem time is when they are the closest. From what I can tell.
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Post by kjs on Jul 21, 2017 13:05:46 GMT -6
Some interesting information ......... The oath of loyalty issued by Augustus in 3BC brought Joseph and Mary from Nazareth to their native city of Bethlehem. . Mary normally would not have needed to go with Joseph, but since both were royal claimants, both had to appear in person and sign the document. . All "royal claimants" would have especially been singled out to take the oath. . Luke tells us that the reason why both Joseph and Mary went to Bethlehem was because he was reckoned as belonging to the house of David, and of course, so was Mary (Lk.2:4). . The census of 3BC is the only census after the one in 8BC, and most would consider 8BC as too late for the birth of CHRIST. =========== Everything I am reading -- sure suggests the YEAR was 3bc drmsh.com/september-11-happy-birthday-to-jesus/Ironically; Dr.Mike Heiser wrote this article last year Sept. 11, 2016 -------- He seems to prove the point the birthday is Sept. 11 Then he make the following statement Another abuse comes from folks out there who are using the celestial signs of Rev 12 to predict the rapture and the tribulation are going to happen on Sept 23, 2017. I’m not a prophet, nor the son of a prophet, but I’m going to predict something: This won’t happen. This is a false prophecy.
Hmmm ... would it be "icing on the cake" -- so to speak that a highly trained scholar -- goes on a limb guaranteeing IT WILL NOT HAPPEN......... only to be proven wrong???
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Post by yardstick on Jul 21, 2017 13:09:27 GMT -6
This is what I was looking for: Sept 11, 3BC: Jupiter-Regulus Conjunction - Birth of Christ Sept 19, 2017: Venus-Regulus Conjunction (might be helpful to know what time this occurs?) - I gotta make a correction on that. They start touching on the 19th, but the 20th about 3 or 4 am Jerusalem time is when they are the closest. From what I can tell. Thanks for the clarification!
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Post by yardstick on Jul 21, 2017 13:11:51 GMT -6
Some interesting information ......... The oath of loyalty issued by Augustus in 3BC brought Joseph and Mary from Nazareth to their native city of Bethlehem. . Mary normally would not have needed to go with Joseph, but since both were royal claimants, both had to appear in person and sign the document. . All "royal claimants" would have especially been singled out to take the oath. . Luke tells us that the reason why both Joseph and Mary went to Bethlehem was because he was reckoned as belonging to the house of David, and of course, so was Mary (Lk.2:4). . The census of 3BC is the only census after the one in 8BC, and most would consider 8BC as too late for the birth of CHRIST. =========== Everything I am reading -- sure suggests the YEAR was 3bc drmsh.com/september-11-happy-birthday-to-jesus/Ironically; Dr.Mike Heiser wrote this article last year Sept. 11, 2016 -------- He seems to prove the point the birthday is Sept. 11 Then he make the following statement Another abuse comes from folks out there who are using the celestial signs of Rev 12 to predict the rapture and the tribulation are going to happen on Sept 23, 2017. I’m not a prophet, nor the son of a prophet, but I’m going to predict something: This won’t happen. This is a false prophecy.
Hmmm ... would it be "icing on the cake" -- so to speak that a highly trained scholar -- goes on a limb guaranteeing IT WILL NOT HAPPEN......... only to be proven wrong???
Better to suggest there is a high probability, rather than making a definite statement. The harpazo could very well be some time between 9/20 and 9/22, or even as early as 9/9 also. See Isa 66.
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Post by whatif on Jul 21, 2017 13:19:16 GMT -6
Fascinating information, kjs! Looks like 3 BC is seeing some great confirmations for Jesus' birth.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 21, 2017 23:04:06 GMT -6
There are 7 days after Sept. 23 to complete 40 days after the Eclipse--40 days warning before destruction?
On the 8th day after Jesus' birth (7 days later, is the 8th day, if I understand correctly), Jesus was presented in the temple to be circumcised. Could this be significant also? Remember Simeon, who came to attend the event, and gave a prophecy? I think we need to revisit that.
Luk 2:22 And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord; Luk 2:23 (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord;) Luk 2:24 And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons. Luk 2:25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him. Luk 2:26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ. Luk 2:27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law, Luk 2:28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said, Luk 2:29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: Luk 2:30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, Luk 2:31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people; Luk 2:32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. Luk 2:33 And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him. Luk 2:34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against; Luk 2:35 (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed. Luk 2:36 And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity; Luk 2:37 And she was a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day. Luk 2:38 And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem.
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Post by whatif on Jul 21, 2017 23:49:42 GMT -6
That is a very interesting speculation, watchmanjim! There is also a period of 8 days between the start of the Feast of Tabernacles (04 October 2017) and the 8th Day Assembly (12 October 2017, the day the asteroid 2012 TC4 is to pass very close to Earth)--perhaps something we can keep in mind should the rapture (birth) be going to happen not precisely on the day of the sign. I don't know if there are any connections between the Feast of Tabernacles and the Rapture like there are with the Feast of Trumpets, but maybe something to investigate.
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