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Post by kjs on Jul 12, 2017 14:28:51 GMT -6
I have been going over Micah 5 2-4 constantly since I first learned of it..... (even shared it with some family members over the 4th holiday week) I said this back on the 29th of June....
Revelation 12 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. (KJV)
Micah 5 3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth (KJV)
Look how close these statements are -- properly, travail (in childbirth), birth pangs; the need to deliver
Everything continues to point to the delivery (or the birth) as being the KEY
Problem is even with this upcoming sign -- it is hard to see the actual "BIRTH"I then go on showing it could be the 9th when Jupiter first exits the womb, or 23rd at the time of the sign, or in Oct. when Jupiter exist Virgo...... But everything seems to come back with -- when is the BIRTH?  ? Than a strange thought hit me ..... when was the real birth of Jesus? What if the sign birth and the real birth of Jesus -- are the SAME DAY?Anyone want to help me out here .... I may be on to something.................. |
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Post by whatif on Jul 12, 2017 18:46:10 GMT -6
Cool thoughts, kjs! I remember hearing or reading from a few sources that Jesus may have been born on 11 September in 3 BC. So I'm providing a link here to a calendar showing on 1/2 of its page the Hebrew calendar for 3 BC and on the other 1/2 of its page the equivalent Roman calendar dates. Notice as you scroll down to September and Tishrei that 11 September fell on 02 Tishrei that year. Our Revelation 12 sign on 23 September 2017 is on 03 Tishrei, so that looks like a very close match to me, especially knowing that the Hebrew calendar days go from sundown to sundown rather than from our midnight to midnight.
Source: cgsf.org, www.cgsf.org/dbeattie/calendar/?roman=3bc
Source: "Jewish Calendar 2017," Hebcal, 07 June 2017, www.hebcal.com/hebcal/?year=2017&v=1&month=x&yt=G&nx=on&o=on&vis=on&d=on&c=off&maj=on&min=on&mod=on
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Post by kjs on Jul 13, 2017 8:34:20 GMT -6
Ok, that is one scary, kind of cool thought….
If Jesus was born on 2nd of Tishrei
And the Sign Birth is also set to occur on 2nd of Tishrei
Than it appears we have another one of those Coincidence that just happens to occur on the same days that the Feast of Trumpets occurs on……….
Do you have an Link for the source that points to birth of Jesus occurring on 2nd of Tishrei ?
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Post by kjs on Jul 13, 2017 8:58:43 GMT -6
Ok, think I found the link..... drmsh.com/september-11-happy-birthday-to-jesus/And Look who it comes from Mike Heiser ........ Who wrote a blog entry last Sept 11, 2016..... Turns out he is writing a book and he needs the Revelation 12 sign to be a hoax of fake sign to make his book correct......... Interesting how there is a money motivation behind his criticism about the Sign on the 2017........... |
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Post by whatif on Jul 13, 2017 11:55:43 GMT -6
I'm glad you found a link, kjs! Here's another one for you, this one being a report on the findings of Joseph Dumond. I don't know anything about Joseph Dumond, but the article is interesting:
Source: Joseph Farah, "Was Jesus Born September 11, 3 BC?" World Net Daily, 23 August 2013, www.wnd.com/2013/08/was-jesus-born-sept-11-3-b-c/
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Post by rt on Jul 13, 2017 15:24:01 GMT -6
Very nice chart, I am definitely going to save and print to go along with my own study!
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Post by yardstick on Jul 21, 2017 9:20:30 GMT -6
Could Matthew 15:20 Lend an understanding to who the "brothers" might be? Is that the correct passage? what comes out of the mouth defiles someone, but eating with unclean hands does not? Sorry, not following your chain of thought...... Matthew 20:16 seems closer... |
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Post by yardstick on Jul 21, 2017 10:37:50 GMT -6
I have been going over Micah 5 2-4 constantly since I first learned of it..... (even shared it with some family members over the 4th holiday week) I said this back on the 29th of June....
Revelation 12 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. (KJV)
Micah 5 3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth (KJV)
Look how close these statements are -- properly, travail (in childbirth), birth pangs; the need to deliver
Everything continues to point to the delivery (or the birth) as being the KEY
Problem is even with this upcoming sign -- it is hard to see the actual "BIRTH"I then go on showing it could be the 9th when Jupiter first exits the womb, or 23rd at the time of the sign, or in Oct. when Jupiter exist Virgo...... But everything seems to come back with -- when is the BIRTH? ? Than a strange thought hit me ..... when was the real birth of Jesus? What if the sign birth and the real birth of Jesus -- are the SAME DAY?Anyone want to help me out here .... I may be on to something.................. What was the sign in the heavens that corresponded to the Birth of Christ? Should we be looking for a duplication of that sign? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 10:48:26 GMT -6
Not following....star ?
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Post by yardstick on Jul 21, 2017 10:59:27 GMT -6
Wasn't it the conjunction of Jupiter and Venus? As I understand it, there is a conjunction of Venus and Regulus after August 21? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 11:07:16 GMT -6
Could be- honestly, I'm a basic on the astrological stuff. I know enough to be dangerous . Lol.... Very intetesting point! My gifts are discernment, and unction.
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Post by lookuptim on Jul 21, 2017 11:08:23 GMT -6
Yardstick - does this help? (Starting around 18:30 mark)
^Scott Clarke on placement of Regulus (the King star) and its proximity to Jupiter and Venus, also next to the 8/21 eclipse in the constellation Leo (representing the Lion, which 9/23 takes place in constellation wise). He makes the connection via some author from years ago re: Christ's birth and similar alignment. I'm not sure how closely it would pertain to your thoughts, but encourage you to check it out! I think you're on to something for sure.
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Post by Natalie on Jul 21, 2017 11:48:57 GMT -6
Aug 15, 2 BC (Stellarium's 2 BC which is 3 BC) is similar to Rev 12 but she isn't pregnant (the crown is also a bit different shape). After that, Jupiter loops around Regulus and then in June Jupiter and Venus are in conjunction.
I don't know if all that was a sign of Christ's birth, but it seems likely.
From what I can tell, there is a conjunction of Venus and Regulus on Sept 19 and a conjunction of Mars and Venus on Oct 5 and Jupiter and Venus on Nov 12 and Jupiter and Mars on Jan 6, 2018.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 12:14:50 GMT -6
And Jupiter and Venus on September 11.
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Post by kjs on Jul 21, 2017 12:24:39 GMT -6
I was speaking of if the Rev 12 sign (Sept 23, 2017) -- if that DATE had any connection with the real Birthday of Jesus.
whatif -- pointed out some that some theorize that Jesus real birth date is Sept 11, 3bc -- which happens to be 2nd of Tishrei
Guess what date 2nd of Tishrei falls on this year 2017 ---- Sept. 22, 2017
THINGS LIKE this really make one go HMMMMMMMMMMM................
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