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Post by Gary on Jun 12, 2017 10:15:48 GMT -6
I've written before on the subject of a partial-rapture. In short, I disagree with the Gospel-deniers who promote it. However, I actually do believe in a partial-rapture - not of Believers, but of Christendom. All Believers who have thrown themselves on the mercy of God and are clinging to the Cross will be leaving very shortly. However, there are a great many who label themselves "Christian" and yet have never accepted God's provision for their sins. They talk incessantly of the Bible and good works and Jesus, yet they have no understanding of Jesus' primary message: You think you are good, but you are not good. The law is far more perfect than you think. The law condemns, but the Spirit gives life. Breaking a single commandment, even the least of all the commandments, makes you guilty of breaking the entirety of it (Matthew 5:17-20, James 2:10). "You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace." - Galatians 5:4 The great irony of the rapture is that many "Christians" believe they are packed and ready to go because of their works. They believe their works and worthiness are what constitute the spotless garments described in Revelation, yet the truth is just the opposite. Jesus' blood and righteousness alone are the spotless garments that we are to be clothed in. The Tribulation Saints are said to come out of the Great Tribulation after having "washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb" (Revelation 7:14) because a great many of those future saints have presently soiled their garments. They are not soiled by their own sin or lack of performance, but because after having initially believed the Gospel message they later placed their faith in themselves and the Bible says our most righteous acts are but filthy rags (Isaiah 64:6). There is only one provision for sins, which is the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ. I beg you to avail yourself to what God has provided. I want to share with you a really powerful exegesis of The Parable of the Ten Virgins in Matthew 25 from Jaco Prinsloo that seemingly resolves a number of questions about the partial-rapture theory and the letters to the churches: I'm aware that many view all of Matthew 24 and 25 as pertaining only to the Jewish remnant during the Time of Jacob's Trouble and I agree with them to an extent, but I also agree with Jaco here and with 2 Timothy 3:16: " All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness." 99% of Jews have never read Matthew 24 or 25, yet the Church has collectively read it for 2,000 years. I am very much a dispensationalist and believe in rightly dividing Scripture, but we must also be leery of ignoring whole sections of Scripture and saying to ourselves that there is no personal application. After all, how many Old Testament prophecies and psalms were originally written about Israel or a particular psalmist, yet in their greatest fulfillment became prophecies pointing to Christ? Scripture has many layers and patterns and all of it is useful and applicable to us in one way or another. Barry Scarbrough also addresses the partial-rapture/works-righteousness crowd in one of his latest videos. This is well worth watching and so incredibly important for you to understand if you want to be ready for the rapture: There is another great video I came across about rapture worthiness. This one is from Melissa at Midnight Hour Oil:
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Post by kjs on Jun 12, 2017 14:44:13 GMT -6
In my opinion – it all boils down to faith – As shown in Hebrews – it is not something easily done by us humans…..
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the assurance that what we hope for will come about and the certainty that what we cannot see exists.
We humans want that “physical touch” – “that measuring stick” – “that Graded Paper with an A circled at the top”…. Something to help us have “that faith”.
We read the words and even understand them to say That Jesus DID it ALL for US. We claim to understand and BELIEVE that everything has been completed for US.
Yet, little linger doubts say – that is too easy – there has to be something for us to do “TO PROVE” our Faith…..
So we start searching for those “good things” we can do -- something we can do – and turn around and point to see – we did that – that is the proof….
Like the video said – many of us are convinced we have to do something to remove a spot, or smooth out a wrinkle in our garments ---
NO, NO, NO – it is all what Jesus Christ has done – He is the spot remover! He is the wrinkle smoother!
Don’t expect to be in Heaven and hear -- “AND I Helped” !!!!
For it is ALL ABOUT what Jesus Did!
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Post by Gary on Jun 12, 2017 15:38:48 GMT -6
Well said. The foundation is Christ and Christ alone. I suspect the works that will be counted in Heaven for rewards will be those where the person did something Holy Spirit-empowered out of appreciation for God's grace. Jesus describes the righteous as surprised when He applauds them for their works - "when did we ____?"
I made an edit to this post and added a new video that Barry Scarbrough posted. Good stuff on the same topic.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 12, 2017 18:46:18 GMT -6
I do find it interesting that when the Bridegroom comes, the virgins actually have time to talk about it for a minute. . . .
Ever think about that? Does it mean anything?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 22:33:35 GMT -6
I do find it interesting that when the Bridegroom comes, the virgins actually have time to talk about it for a minute. . . . Ever think about that? Does it mean anything? Could it be the September sign is the call that the bridegroom is coming?
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Post by whatif on Jun 12, 2017 23:21:44 GMT -6
Please let it be so, Lord Jesus!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 4:25:04 GMT -6
I SO agree kjs. I "couldn't " DO any good works WITHOUT CHRIST IN ME! He is what enables me to do anything good. Without him, I would respond like the world around me.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 13, 2017 5:47:32 GMT -6
I do find it interesting that when the Bridegroom comes, the virgins actually have time to talk about it for a minute. . . . Ever think about that? Does it mean anything? Could it be the September sign is the call that the bridegroom is coming? That's what I'm thinking--or maybe when the accompanying signs are seen--the sea and waves roaring, stars falling, men's hearts failing within them, distress of nations, etc. . . . perhaps when all that happens, just as we and the Bible said it would--the unsaved Christians THEN turn to us and say, "Show us how to be saved" and that's when there's no time--we're whisked away, and they have to stay and find their own oil. Not sure--- just wondering.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 6:00:25 GMT -6
Wow...what a thought!
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Post by kjs on Jun 13, 2017 7:33:06 GMT -6
I made an edit to this post and added a new video that Barry Scarbrough posted. Good stuff on the same topic. I agree Barry, usually makes some good points; However, I usually have a hard time listening/watching his complete shows -- because he ends up going down so many "rabbit trails"; that it is hard to follow what his over laying point is.
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Post by Gary on Jun 13, 2017 8:16:18 GMT -6
Ok... I had to make one more edit. I keep coming across great videos! In the video I added, Melissa also discusses "no one knows the day or hour".
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Post by findtruth on Jun 14, 2017 18:23:22 GMT -6
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Post by findtruth on Jun 14, 2017 19:00:57 GMT -6
In the article that I posted above, Jack Kelley points out that the parable may not be for the church, but for the tribulation saints. He makes a good case by the scripture verses that he uses to make the points. He also shows how the symbols used in the parable are interpreted elsewhere in scripture. I like imagery of the waiting for the bridegroom 's return.many will be saved during the tribulation period . It could happen at the second coming and not at the rapture of the church. Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 20:21:39 GMT -6
I agree; just found that article yesterday, on Rapture Ready's forum. God's sending a sign, looks like!
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 14, 2017 20:39:50 GMT -6
I just read this--maybe Jack's understanding of it is correct, but it introduces some concepts I would have to chew on for a while. Good find, though!
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