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Post by TrumpetsTX on Sept 7, 2020 23:00:42 GMT -6
The Feast of Trumpets: Rapture Day
Robert Cook TrumpetsTX  Jewish tradition says a new month begins after two witnesses see the crescent new moon, testify before the Sanhedrin who declare the beginning of the new month. Messengers set beacon fires on hills throughout Israel. This happens about a day after the astronomical new moon. But Rosh Hashanah is the beginning of a new month and new civil year. Distant communities celebrate Trumpets on two possible days. The shofar sounds one hundred times during the Jewish service (Isaiah 42:9).
The Feast of Trumpets Is the Rapture Day
1. Day of Blowing the Shofar or Ram’s Horn
Yom Teruah or the Feast of Trumpets is on the first day of the seventh month of Tishri. Since Passover, Unleavened Bread, Firstfruits and Weeks/Pentecost were prophesies fulfilled by Jesus Christ on specific holy days, so Trumpets, Atonement and Tabernacles will be fulfilled as written (Leviticus 23:24-25).
2. Day of Rosh Hashanah, the New Year
The Feast of Trumpets is Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish civil new year which begins on a new moon in the summer/fall (September 4-October 6). After the night’s prayer service, a special greeting is used: “Ketiva ve-chatima tovah” or “May you be written and sealed for a good year” (Psalm 81:3).
3. Days of Creation and Birth of Adam
The Feast of Trumpets is the Jewish celebration of the creation of the world and Adam. The Hebrew name Genesis is Beresheet but right to left (teeshereB) is the 1st of Tishri. The month of Tishri is the beginning with creation and the end with Trumpets (Rapture), Atonement (Second Coming) and Tabernacles (Reign of Jesus Christ). Genesis says “In the beginning” or literally, "On the 1st of Tishri [Aleph b'Tishri]" (Genesis 1:1, Revelation 1:8).
4. Day of Remembrance
The Rapture is Yom Hazikaron or Day of Remembrance. We remember God as Savior and Lord and repent of our sins as we prepare for that day. God remembers His promise of eternal life to those who believe (Revelation 3:3, Luke 23:42).
5. Day of the Awakening Blast and Day of Shouting
The Feast of Trumpets is the day of shouting, the resurrection of the dead and the rapture of all believers in Christ. This sound wakes the dead in Christ and the alive in Christ but not the living dead. God rescues us from imminent danger before the Tribulation (1 Thessalonians 4:16).
Feast of Trumpets – Synagogue Service (2:54)
6. Day of the Last Trump
It is important to know how the Jews celebrate their holy days. On the Feast of Trumpets, the prayer service includes a hundred blasts of the shofar with four sounds: Tekiah (1 long), Shevarim (3 medium), Teruah (9 short) and Tekiah Gedolah (1 extra long). Paul said when the last trump (Tekiah Gedolah) sounds on the Feast of Trumpets, we will transform from life to eternal life (1 Corinthians 15:51-52).
First Trump – Weeks/Pentecost – Exodus 19:16-17, 18-19
Last Trump – Trumpets – 1 Corinthians 15:51-52
Great Trump – Atonement – Matthew 24:30-31
7. Day That Is Hidden
The Rapture is Yom Hakeseh or the Hidden Day. The day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. No one saw Jesus Christ’s resurrection from the dead at night so we will be resurrected and raptured in hiding (1 Thessalonians 5:4-5).
8. Day That No One Knows
The Feast of Trumpets can occur after the 29th or 30th day of Elul, so no one knows the day or hour until the crescent moon appears in the afternoon sky. Jesus uses three Jewish figures of speech to tell the day of the Rapture (Matthew 24:36). The angels, including Satan and his demons, do not know the day.
9. Day of the Marriage Feast of the Lamb
The Feast of Trumpets follows the traditional Jewish wedding ceremony. The father tells his son when to get his bride but Jesus is God and tells us the day. Both Jacob and Samson’s weddings last for one week. Christ and His Church have the wedding under the great huppah in the sky. This lasts for seven years (John 14:2-3).
10. Day of Judgment
The Rapture is Yom Hadin or Judgment Day. Believers in Christ are saved by grace but rewarded for their works (2 Corinthians 5:10). All people left behind are judged and given a second chance to accept redemption during the Tribulation. Later, the lost have their final judgment (Revelation 20:11-12). Understanding the Shofar Blasts - Why Do We Hear 100 Blasts (6:38)
11. Day of the Opening of the Door and Gate
The Rapture is the day of the open door and open gate. All people redeemed by Jesus Christ enter into Heaven’s gate. Redemption is still available until the gate closes at the Second Coming (Revelation 4:1).
12. Day of the Open Books
The Rapture is the day of the open books. The Lamb’s Book of Life and the book of remembrance are opened. Those left behind have one more opportunity to change what is written. The books are closed at the end of the Tribulation (Revelation 3:5).
13. Day of the Resurrection and Rapture
The Feast of Trumpets is the day of the Resurrection and the Rapture. First, the dead in Christ will be resurrected. The alive in Christ will be raptured. Then we all meet Jesus Christ in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).
14. Day of Victory Over Sin, Death and the Grave
The Rapture is a day of ultimate victory over sin, death and the grave. We will never again be separated from God because of sin. Like Enoch and Elijah, all believers will cheat death and the grave (1 Corinthians 15:55, 57).
God tells us what is going to happen before it happens and when. He describes the Rapture by Jewish traditions on the Feast of Trumpets, the Jewish New Year. Since God revealed to us the days of the Rapture but not the year, four horses, five trumpets and other prophesies describe important events that occur before the Tribulation.
Bible Chronology
| Jewish Year | Person/Event | | 1 | Adam | | 1000 | Noah | | 2000 | Abraham | | 3000 | Solomon | | 4000 | Cross Church Age Begins | | 5000 | Church Age | | ~5994 | Church Age Ends Rapture (1st of Tishri) | | ? | Gap (10 Days or Years) | | 5994 | Confirmation of the Covenant
Tribulation Begins | | 6000 | Tribulation Ends
Second Coming (10th of Tishri) Millennium Begins (15th of Tishri) | | 7000 | Millennium Ends
New Heaven/Earth |
Bible Chronology
Jesus Christ was born ~7-1 BC and died ~27-33 AD, then ~2027-2033 could be the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. So ~2019-2026 is a possible seven year rapture window as God prepares the world for the seven years of Tribulation. Since we are at the end of the Church Age, watch Israel, China, the European Union, Russia and Iran and preparation of the Covenant and Tribulation but more importantly, watch for Jesus and pray.
The Feast of Trumpets 2020
If the crescent moon is seen in Jerusalem, the new year begins on Friday, September 18, 2020 at ~6:40 PM IDT (~11:40 AM EDT) and ends at twilight on Sunday, September 20, 2020 at ~6:38 PM IDT (~11:38 AM EDT). Maybe this Trumpets is the Rapture.
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Post by TrumpetsTX on Aug 12, 2021 20:49:14 GMT -6
Jesus Christ was born ~7-1 BC and died ~27-33 AD, then ~2027-2033 could be the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. So ~2019-2026 is a possible seven year rapture window as God prepares the world for the seven years of Tribulation. Since we are at the end of the Church Age, work but also watch for Jesus on the Feast of Trumpets. The Feast of Trumpets 2021On the Jewish calendar, the Feast of Trumpets 2021 starts on the evening of September 6, 2021. The astronomical no moon is September 7, at 3:51 AM IDT. That makes one day early and 15 hours might still be too early to see the new crescent moon in Jerusalem, delaying Trumpets until the evening of September 8, 2020 at sunset. Since Jewish months are 29 or 30 days based on the moon phases, it is not possible to delay the month and year two days. It is difficult to know the spring barley harvest and cloud cover. The Jewish calendar is the official calendar but God is always on time. Maybe this Trumpets with Jesus. You, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. You are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness (1 Thessalonians 5:4-5). Robert Cook
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Post by mike on Aug 13, 2021 7:37:12 GMT -6
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Post by disciple4life on Aug 13, 2021 14:07:58 GMT -6
Hello @ Trumpets TX. Welcome to the Forum, from your fellow watchmen brother in Tennessee. 😉
You have so so much awesome information about Yom Teruah- It's clear that you have done lots of homework.
I've also started several threads on the same topic.
While I'm 1000% certain that the Feasts are Rehearsals for the major events in Christ's ministry, AND that the last 3 are inseparably linked with the Second Advent, so there's no "secret, (surprise), any-moment, "could-be-today-or-tomorrow" rapture, AND that Paul and David and John and Christ all gave us clues that all point to the rapture at Rosh Hoshanah... I'm not 1000% certain that it's this year. 😉
Dr Barry Awe makes a very very solid compelling case that shows how and why the Torah calendar is off one month. It's one month fast.**Edit- [Oops, I meant its one month behind, so this would be slow, not fast.]
So in other words, the real Rosh Hoshanah will be October 7th.
If we're still here on October 10th, it just means I wait for next year.
Maranatha.
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Post by TrumpetsTX on Aug 17, 2021 20:55:08 GMT -6
disciple4life: Dr Barry Awe makes a very very solid compelling case that shows how and why the Torah calendar is off one month.Thanks for mentioning Dr Barry Awe. I watch the video and he had a good explanation about the position of the stars during Nisan, Passover, Tishri and Kislev. The heavens declare the glory of God and the plans of God. Still need more information on Pentecost. The decade of the Revelation 2020’s is becoming the focus of many, prophecies, signs and events. This is the season of Teshuvah, repent and return to God. We prepare our hearts for God’s return and He returns for us at the Rapture. Maybe this is the year? Robert Cook
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Post by TrumpetsTX on Aug 17, 2021 21:12:54 GMT -6
Updated: The Feast of Trumpets 2021
Jesus Christ was born ~7-1 BC and died ~27-33 AD, then ~2027-2033 could be the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. So the years ~2019-2026 is a possible seven year rapture window as God prepares the world for the seven years of Tribulation, within the margin of calendar errors. Since we are at the end of the Church Age, work but also watch for Jesus on the Feast of Trumpets. On the Jewish calendar, the Feast of Trumpets 2021 (5782 AM) starts on the evening of September 6. The astronomical no moon is September 7, at 3:51 AM IDT but 15 hours is not enough to see the new crescent moon in Jerusalem. Trumpet is the evening of September 8 sunset and ends September 10 sunset Jerusalem time. Since Jewish months are 29 or 30 days based on the moon phases, it is not possible to delay the month and year two days. However, the sun is not in Virgo. The leap month Adar I in the spring 2022 should have been added in the spring 2021. If the calendar is off 30 days, October 6, 2:05 PM IDT is the astronomical no moon so Trumpets is the evening of October 7 sunset to October 9 sunset Jerusalem time. It is difficult to know the spring barley harvest and cloud cover. The Jewish calendar is off about 210-216 years plus this extra month. The 19 year cycle is the official Jewish calendar but God is on His time according to His Word. This year or not? Those awake, watching and expecting Christ's return will be the first to know. You, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. You are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness (1 Thessalonians 5:4-5). Robert Cook
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Post by disciple4life on Aug 19, 2021 18:25:50 GMT -6
Also, TrumpetsTX, fitz,@gary, inaweofhim, @reepicheep, boraddict, yardstick, others, 3 other points i find very interesting and relevant. 1. Two weeks ago, we met and had dinner with a couple and the husband is a Messianic Jewish pastor of a Messianic congregation in New Jersey. I asked him if he had heard anything about the calendar being off by a month, and if he could confirm and explain why?? He said he hadn't heard anything specific, he did say that he was taking with several other rabbis and they all agreed that Rosh Hoshanah, Feast of Trumpets is exceptionally early this year. [It's usually late September/early October.] 2. It's very fascinating that multiple Jewish scholars and rabbis, Christian and Orthodox agree that this new year is the Schmita year. 3. This second point above is a huge deal, and as Messianic rabbi Mark Biltz points out, the 70 weeks of Daniel are 70 7 year Schmita cycles, and this is significant because it also means that the 7 year Tribulation is a 7 year Schmita cycle. Wow!! Or, in other words, Every 7 year Schmita cycle ( and every year has to start at Rosh Hoshanah, and by extension, The Jubilee year also starts at the Last Trumpet which is the 100th blast of the shofar on Rosh Hoshanah. He came to set the captive Free. He started ministry in a Jubilee year and he comes to end the reign of Satan's bondage and at the start of the Schmita cycle, he comes to take his bride, and she is lifted up and carried away, on the exact day that Jews everywhere understand is the Wedding of the Messiah and He takes a Gentile bride. Wow!. The scales will be lifted off their eyes, and there will be 144,000 Jewish witnesses, sharing the Gospel with millions of Jews and others in the Tribulation, but We are His Bride and are already washed and made pure by the blood of Christ. It's a wedding, not a beating. Hallelujah. |
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Post by disciple4life on Aug 23, 2021 19:07:12 GMT -6
Hello guys and gals. My dear fellow sheepdogs. 😊 I want to share some interesting information. I really really wanted to research and get some answers and explanations as to how or why some say that the Jewish calendar is "Off", or behind by one month this year, and I've tried and looked and looked. I know that so many of you are well-versed in Stellarium and Stary Night and I'm not. I can't remember who exactly, but i think boymaker or boraddict or inaweofhim pointed me to the recent video of Dr Barry Awe who said this. I asked in multiple comment threads on multiple videos but never got a response. It's odd because he read my comments and even "liked" one. I really like him and his channel and his passion, and I've told him multiple times, but I totally don't agree with him at all on his rapture theory. So i just kept digging. I wanted to share this here. Www.whenisthenewmoon.com According to Barry Awe, Torah calendar is off and they even know it and admit it, and are even going to add an extra month to correct the problem. *** He said something about the Lamb being in Aries and the Sun in Abib? Www.Whenisthenewmoon.com shows this is the 5th Hebrew month and so the real Feast of trumpets is October 7th and 8th. Can anyone give me more information about the Spring Equinox being used in the Bible to determine the real Spring, real Nisan.?? Blessings Disciple4life |
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Post by mike on Aug 25, 2021 8:07:23 GMT -6
Ive moved the dialogue that starting to stray from the intent of the thread and created a new thread called " Conversation about rapture timing" - I'm not sure if that the best title or not but felt the need to move to a new thread. For those wishing to participate, please, please, please this is a convo between lovers of Christ looking to His return. It is not for telling each other that we ARE wrong, but moreso WHAT IF. Please remember that in your responses. |
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Post by TrumpetsTX on Sept 4, 2021 18:52:12 GMT -6
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According to Barry Awe, Torah calendar is off and they even know it and admit it, and are even going to add an extra month to correct the problem.
*** He said something about the Lamb being in Aries and the Sun in Abib?
Can anyone give me more information about the Spring Equinox being used in the Bible to determine the real Spring, real Nisan.??
Hebrew Calendar: Observed to Calculated
In the beginning (1st of Tishri), God created the heavens and earth (Genesis 1:1). Jews today celebrates that 6th day as the new year and creation of Adam (Leviticus 23:24-25). The civil calendar was used with Noah (Genesis 7:11) and religious calendar was added with Moses (Exodus 12:1-2). God created the sun, moon and starts for signs, seasons, days and years (Genesis 1:14). Days begin at sunset, months of 29 or 30 days after the new crescent moon and the year of ~254 days begins near the spring equinox. Since years are about 11 days short, the lunisolar calendar must have been adjust for seasons since Moses. The Sanhedrin set rules for a 30 day leap month about every 2 or 3 years. 1. Passover occurs after the autumn equinox. 2. Barley harvest is ripe ( Aviv) (Exodus 13:3-4, Deuteronomy 16:1). 3. Roads are passable for the Passover journey During captivity, the Jews learned Babylon astronomy. With years of history, the Sanhedrin began to calculate estimated years. In 359 after the Roman diaspora, the Sanhedrin led by Hillel, changed to a 19 year calculated calendar with 12 regular years and 7 leap years. The calendar delays days so High Sabbaths do not occur on Thursday/Friday or Saturday/Sunday avoiding double Sabbaths. Constellations tell the story of redemption from the fall to Christ. Jesus was born of a virgin of the lion of the tribe of Judah and is the lamb, bull and goat sacrificed for our sin. At the cross, Jesus took our sin and had victory over the serpent (Genesis 3:15). Religious New YearDr. Barry Awe said on the 1st of Nisan of the religious new year, the Sun sets in Pisces (fish) and the moon in Aries (lamb) while the star Spica (barley) in Virgo’s hand rises. The Jewish calendar is early so a leap month Adar I should have been added in February 5781/2021 instead of 5782/2022.
Dr. Barry Awe: Jewish Calendar and Astronomy (11:40-17:20) The heavens declare the glory of God [and the plan of God] (Psalm 19:1). Every year during Passover, God tells the story of the death, burial and resurrection in the sky. The sun is in Pisces while the moon is in Virgo, Libra (judgment), Scorpio (death) and Ophiuchus (victory) on consecutive days. That did not happen in the spring of 2021. Civil New Year Revelation 12 Sign - September 23, 2017 In 2017, God fulfilled the Revelation 12 prophecy with the sun, moon, 9 stars and 3 planets while Jupiter traveled back and forth in the woman for over 40 weeks. The dragon meteor shower was in December 2020. These were warning signs of the Rapture but not the event. The Feast of Trumpets 2021/5782 starts with the new crescent moon. In September, the sun is between Leo and Virgo but in October, the woman is clothed with the sun with the moon at her feet (Revelation 12:1-2). The child (Church) is caught up (raptured) but the woman (Israel) fled into the wilderness for 1260 days (Revelation 12:5-6). The Tribulation is Jacob/Israel’s trouble, described as birth pains (Jeremiah 30:5-7, Matthew 24:8). If the Rapture occurs on October 2021 new crescent moon, it would fulfill “no one knows” because it was the Feast of Trumpets and both Jews and Gentiles would not know (Matthew 24:36, 42). With a month delay, 30 days after Atonement is the 10th of Heshvan (1290 days) (Daniel 12:11-12). Thirty days after the 17th of Tishri (Tabernacles) is the 17th of Heshvan (Great Flood) (Genesis 7:11, 2 Peter 3:4-6, 10). The purpose is not to pick the exact date but to wake up and warn the Church to watch and be ready when Jesus Christ calls us home. Robert Cook
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Post by Natalie on Sept 5, 2021 17:18:15 GMT -6
TrumpetsTX , Did you mean to say that Passover occurs after the autumn Equinox? Shouldn't that be spring? For you and disciple4life , I found this on wikipedia, but it supports what I have found elsewhere online. FOT is frequently celebrated before the autumn equinox.
So, it seems that FOT wouldn't be Oct 7th as it never occurs that late.
My thoughts - If the rapture is going to happen on a feast day and it's going to be used to get the attention of the Jews, then it will be on the day they celebrate the feast. It won't be a month later when they aren't celebrating because it won't mean anything. "Oh, all the crazy Christians are gone. That's weird."  I am sure God can take into account the way that they are calculating their feasts.  However, if the rapture is going to happen on a random day and is not meant to get the Jews' attention, then any day is a good day.
Edit: That quote also explains why they would have FOT as the 6th-8th instead of 8th-10th. They have changed the calendar so that FOT won't fall on a Wed (don't know why that is though).
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 5, 2021 19:56:09 GMT -6
TrumpetsTX , Did you mean to say that Passover occurs after the autumn Equinox? Shouldn't that be spring? For you and disciple4life , I found this on wikipedia, but it supports what I have found elsewhere online. FOT is frequently celebrated before the autumn equinox.
So, it seems that FOT wouldn't be Oct 7th as it never occurs that late.
My thoughts - If the rapture is going to happen on a feast day and it's going to be used to get the attention of the Jews, then it will be on the day they celebrate the feast. It won't be a month later when they aren't celebrating because it won't mean anything. "Oh, all the crazy Christians are gone. That's weird." I am sure God can take into account the way that they are calculating their feasts. However, if the rapture is going to happen on a random day and is not meant to get the Jews' attention, then any day is a good day.
Edit: That quote also explains why they would have FOT as the 6th-8th instead of 8th-10th. They have changed the calendar so that FOT won't fall on a Wed (don't know why that is though).
Very good post Natalie, - I totally agree with you on the very first part regarding TrumpetsTX - I think it was simply a mistype- should have been Spring equinox - but he can confirm that. Also - it goes to both of your points, but there is not any mention that I can find anywhere of the Spring Equinox or Fall Equinox or any kind of equinox in the Bible. I know Barry Awe says that it's off and I've seen other reports that seems to make sense and to confirm it, -- and I've asked Barry repeatedly if he would post the passages that show or support his position that the sun has to be in some constellation "Aries" i think, and the moon in some other constellation -- but he has never replied. Steve Fletcher has multiple videos that use the same software to "Show" or prove that October doesn't work. Very confusing . The whole thing about the equinox was not in scripture. I've seen a very fascinating video by well-known and respected Bible Scholar Chuck Missler, who has gone to be with the Lord - that the Catholic church manipulated the dates by using the equinox - so that the crucifixion will never never land on Passover, and it also means that the resurrection will never never land on the Firstfruits. God ordained it so that the calendar corrected itself based on the barley being ripe. You make a very good point with the question /thought that if it's "off" or 1 month later than when Jews celebrate Rosh Hoshanah/Feast of Trumpets, then it won't mean anything to them - it would seem to be the "Crazy Christians" disappear on some random day. This exact thought has crossed my mind as well. ;-) On the other side , Yom Teruah is always late September/ Early October, and i mentioned that recently my wife and I met a Messianic Jewish pastor of a Messianic congregation in New Jersey, and over our long dinner and his amazing story of his father survived the Holocaust - I asked him this specific question - if he had heard anything about the calendar being off and why? If he could explain it. He said that he hadn't heard it specifically, -- **But on the other hand- he did say that he had discussed with several other rabbis - and they all agreed that Rosh Hoshanah was very very unusually early. Also- I thought it was very interesting that I also very kindly asked Dr Barry if he could give any kind of link or source to confirm that Torah Calendar knows and even admits that the calendar is off - and that they are adding one extra month at the end of the year - to make the correction. They realize that if they don't correct it, then Passover ends up being in the summer. Again - no response from him - but i know he read my comments because he even "liked" one on the same video. I'm looking at both dates, to be honest - and your point is a very good one. If it is not on Feast of Trumpets - then it means that multiple writers - who all wrote and gave clues that all point to the exact same thing -- all intentionally were trying to deceive us. ***Think about this - if the rapture were some random, surprise - any-moment-any-day event, then what we should expect is that - We should expect that scripture would say that it's unknown - ***The part "Nor the Son" in Matthew 24:36 is not in Either the Byzantine [Majority Text] source OR the Textus Receptus - the two primary sources for all the New Testament translations.
- We should also see the pattern that his first advent was totally unknown and a total surprise - and that's not the case at all - In fact it was known, and proclaimed to the shepherds, and the wise men, and Herod's astrologers'.
- We should also expect that we would not see any clues that tell us the time - If it were an any-moment-any-day event - then you can't watch or prepare. What we find are clues by Ezekiel, Paul, Daniel, John and Christ himself.
- Most importantly - if it were a known event - and Christians were expected that we will know - then what we should expect to find in scripture is multiple other examples of raptures and the people being raptured knowing in advance -- And this is exactly what we find. Noah knew - Lot knew, and everyone agrees that Elisha was raptured - no denying that, and he knew before, and Paul explicitly links the resurrection with Harpazo, and says that it happens at the Last Trumpet, which is the 100th Blast of the Shofar on Rosh Hoshanah.
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I don't know the details of how everything will play out - and as Ive said before - I'm 1000% certain that when we get to heaven - there will be multiple things that didn't play out the way we all thought. No one has all the pieces right, but we glean as much as we can from each other, and long for the glorious appearing of our Lord and Saviour. If we don't see the Harpazo this Sept 6-7th, or Oct 6-7th - It just means we have one more year to study and point others to Christ. ;-) Maranatha. Your Fellow sheepdog in Tennessee Disciple4life -- |
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Post by Natalie on Sept 5, 2021 20:11:24 GMT -6
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Post by TrumpetsTX on Sept 7, 2021 22:13:21 GMT -6
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On the other side , Yom Teruah is always late September/ Early October,
Trumpets is near the autumn equinox. The rabbi says September 5 to October 5. An early Rosh HaShanah? – Ask the Rabbi
Q. What is the earliest date in the secular calendar that Rosh HaShanah can occur?
A. The dates range between 5 September and 5 October and are governed by the previous Pesach.Early Rosh HashanahDisciple4life
Most importantly - if it were a known event - and Christians were expected that we will know - then what we should expect to find in scripture is multiple other examples of raptures and the people being raptured knowing in advance -- And this is exactly what we find. Noah knew - Lot knew, and everyone agrees that Elisha was raptured - no denying that, and he knew before, and Paul explicitly links the resurrection with Harpazo, and says that it happens at the Last Trumpet, which is the 100th Blast of the Shofar on Rosh Hoshanah. Exactly. God is a date setter (Isaiah 42:9). He told Abraham that his dependents would be strangers 400 years (Genesis 15:13, 16). He told Moses they would be in the wilderness 40 years (Numbers 14:34). He told the prophets that Judah would be captive 70 years Jeremiah (25:11). He told Daniel when the Messiah would be cut off (Daniel 9:26). He told us there is seven important holy days and a seven for the Tribulation (Leviticus 23, Daniel 9:27). He told all of us there are 6000 years of human rule before the 1000 years rule with Jesus Christ (Exodus 20:11, Revelation 20:6). Elisha was determined to be with Elijah, so we are ready but keep watch for our beloved Jesus. Natalie
TrumpetsTX , Did you mean to say that Passover occurs after the autumn Equinox? Shouldn't that be spring?
Yes. Passover is in the spring. The Sanhedrin set rules for a 30 day leap month about every 2 or 3 years. 1. Passover occurs after the SPRING equinox. 2. Barley harvest is ripe (Aviv) (Exodus 13:3-4, Deuteronomy 16:1). 3. Roads are passable for the Passover journey Also the spring equinox and the leap month are not mentioned in the Bible but are necessary to keep time aligned with the sun and moon. So, it seems that FOT wouldn't be Oct 7th as it never occurs that late.
My thoughts - If the rapture is going to happen on a feast day and it's going to be used to get the attention of the Jews, then it will be on the day they celebrate the feast. It won't be a month later when they aren't celebrating because it won't mean anything. "Oh, all the crazy Christians are gone. That's weird." I am sure God can take into account the way that they are calculating their feasts. However, if the rapture is going to happen on a random day and is not meant to get the Jews' attention, then any day is a good day.
Edit: That quote also explains why they would have FOT as the 6th-8th instead of 8th-10th. They have changed the calendar so that FOT won't fall on a Wed (don't know why that is though). What calendar is right: Jewish, Roman or the sky? The Jewish calendar is off by days and years. The 1st of Tishri is not September 6/7 because the day cannot precede the astronomical no moon on September 7/8 (3:51 AM Jerusalem). Then it takes at least 18 hours to be seen. So the earliest is September 8/9 and 9/10 for the two day holiday. The calculated calendar postpones days to avoid double Sabbaths but is slowly drifting a day later in October. The year might start in September or October based on the sky. Then the year 5782 is off by ~216 years. (Abraham 5, wilderness 40, Joshua conquest 5). The end of the temples 586 BC and 70 AD is 656 not 490 years. There is a comparison between calendars in Bible Chronology. The Roman calendar is off by days and years. The Julian calendar was adjusted by the Gregorian calendar which corrects to the Nicaean Council in 325 AD but still off 2 days back to the life of Jesus. Then Jesus was conceived on Hanukkah and probably born on Tabernacles in October 7 BC (Jupiter/Saturn) or Trumpets in 3 BC (Jupiter/Regulus). Jesus died in 4001 AM or 27-33 AD which makes the Second Coming about 2027-2033. So the rapture would be about 2020-2026. We are so close but within the margin of error. God uses the sun, moon and stars for signs, seasons, days and years (Genesis 1:14). It is so foreign to use the sky to tell holy days. What little I know, God is telling us to look to the sky for signs for our time. I will watch both September and October but also events of the Covenant and China. Confidently like Enoch and Elijah, we have the opportunity to go from life to eternal life when we see Jesus and our faith becomes sight. Encourage one another in the Lord. Robert Cook TrumpetsTX www.21stcenturyrevelation.com
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 13, 2021 20:19:37 GMT -6
TrumpetsTX , mike , disciple4life , Natalie , @gary, boraddictHello guys - I just found these three amazing nuggets of truth, in my study - as i keep digging, and the more i dig and the more I do intense word studies - the more it confirms what Mark Biltz says - about how the Feasts are God's prophetic time clock. Check this out. I had heard and read many times about how the Great flood of Noah, and specifically the ark is a clear rapture picture. But look at this - It just blows my mind. 1. Just like a birth, Noah was told long in advance, then, as it got closer, he got a seven day warning- and the water literally broke. Hmmm. - Noah was not "surprised by the day - like a thief in the night" he knew exactly when the deliverance would happen.
- He was lifted up
- "The door was opened" - ancient picture of Yom Teruah - Feast of Trumpets -because the door of the temple was opened - and the trumpets blown to call the people in to worship. Hmm.
- I knew that Genesis 7 - flood account listed some specific days - a timeline for many different phases or stages of the flood, and I suspected that we should expect that one of these days would correspond with a Fall Feast day -- It does. The water continued to rise after the 40 days and 40 nights [number of testing] and was at the highest level over all the earth on feast of Booths. 17 day of the 7th month. This was before God gave the 7 feasts in Leviticus, - but it is a foreshadow of things to come - Just like Paul said.
- As Mike and i have both said regarding the timing of the rapture in relation to the tribulation and a few other things - we can clearly see types and shadows and pictures of things in the Old Testament, and even the precise patterns in the Old Testament - like the first Spring Feasts all being fulfilled in perfect order. BUT - that is not to say that just because something happened in the Old Testament that it would happen again. We need confirmation from scripture.
2. If the 3 Fall Feasts are in fact inseparably linked with the 2nd Advent - [All the events of the rapture, tribulation, AC, temple, Abomination of Desolation, 2 witnesses, , 2nd coming, and 1000 year reign] - then what we Should expect to see is 1. An example of someone who was actually raptured, and knew before, AND, 2. multiple passages that tell us specifically - that the end times happen at Feast days [Moedim - appointed times]. And this is exactly what we find. - Daniel 8:19
- Daniel 11:35
- Habakkuk 2:3 All three passages clearly link the end times with "moed" appointed times.
In I Thes 5:1 - Paul is setting the background for the events of the end times- the 2nd Advent - "Regarding the "times and seasons", brothers, you have no need to have anything written to you" - this phrase "times and seasons" is the same phrase from Genes 1:13-14, God made the sun and moon for signs and seasons - and is not seasons as in Spring Summer, Fall and Winter, but it's Moed.
3. Lastly - and it's so so cool. Ezekiel 46:1-2 - We have the gates opened on the Sabbath - 7th day [Door of heaven opened] and not just any, But the Eastern Gate - the one linked with the Messiah's 2nd Advent. The passage states "on the Sabbath, in the day of the new moon, it shall be opened, and the Prince shall enter that gate. ***Feast of Trumpets/ Yom Teruah is the only feast that is a Sabbath and a New Moon. Wow. Open door, New Moon, Prince enters the Eastern Gate. My dear dear fellow watchmen - I don't know how everything plays out, but i know this - so so many watchmen all over - from many backgrounds are seeing the huge and intense convergence of signs -- increase in evil, vaccine mandates, persecution, famines, rumors of wars, lawlessness, and false teachers, and the vaccine is setting the stage for the events of the tribulation, and this week, the WHO and Bill Gates Foundation is releasing the Global Vaccine passport, which is connected with our bank account and it also tracks you. Hmmm. So those not vaccinated can be punished/ fined. Mike also mentioned that this 3rd Term of Obama seems so much worse than the first 2. As someone else said so well - "Normal is not coming back - Jesus is." My hope is on the rock - and we are on the very cusp end of the 6th day/ the 6000 year, which opens the 7th day - the Sabbath of the Millennium. If we are still here in Oct, my hope is not shaken, and i'm not that guy that changes and comes up with another theory. I just look for the next feast to be fulfilled - maybe not how i thought - but it will be fulfilled by Christ. Blessings and enouragement. Disciple4life. I just felt God really really pressing on my heart to start a channel - not to get "Likes" from people, and not to change anyone's mind, but really to inspire people to dig deeper, and point people to Christ. If 10 people are inspired to dig deeper - then it's worth it. ;-)
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I am sure God can take into account the way that they are calculating their feasts. 
However, if the rapture is going to happen on a random day and is not meant to get the Jews' attention, then any day is a good day.