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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 11:11:42 GMT -6
So, after seeing Brad's work on Jupiter Jubilees, I decided to add on to his work and to see if there were any other Jubilees. There are. Mercury: 25 year cycle - 6 Earth years Venus: 50 year cycle - 31 Earth years Mars: 25 year cycle - 47 Earth years Jupiter: 50 year cycle - 593 Earth years Saturn: 50 year cycle - 1471 Earth years Uranus: 100 year cycle - 8375 Earth years Neptune: 25 year cycle - 4093 Earth years I used the same level of accuracy as Brad. Does this have any significance?
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Post by whatif on Jun 1, 2017 12:10:30 GMT -6
Fascinating additions, beloved! I wouldn't know how to begin to figure it out myself, but I do notice in your list that all the planets' cycles are either 50 (Venus, Jupiter, Saturn) or halves of 50 (Mercury, Mars, Neptune) or doubles of 50 (Uranus). So there are 25s, 50s, and a 100. That is intriguing...
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Post by whatif on Jun 1, 2017 12:12:05 GMT -6
I wonder if there's ever a time when all of those planets' cycles meet together with Earth's...
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 1, 2017 17:18:50 GMT -6
So with the exception of Uranus (the odd one out), all the planets match earth evenly every 50 of their own years. Since 25x2=50. That is incredible. Is there any way that could have happened by random accident???
Great work, Beloved!
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Post by brad on Jun 1, 2017 23:33:01 GMT -6
Hello Beloved! You sound like you belong here! …Welcome! Looks like we are thinking alike! I’ve been working on the exact same thing…. What about the other planets?
I’ve attached 2 spread sheets at the bottom… the first for proof of what I am about to say, and the second of which is easier to expand by a few mouse clicks for anybody who wants to help search… there are some incredible patterns developing… The numbers you presented however do not remain accurate over the approximate 6000 year period we have been living in… I took all my orbital period data from Stellarium by clicking on the planets and copying the “Sidereal Period” data which goes to 3 numbers past the decimal… A finer accuracy was needed for Mercury because it orbits so fast… I took it to the fourth decimal. Less accuracy was needed for Saturn, Uranus and Neptune because their exact matches went way past the brief 6000 year window we are looking at. Enough with math, Here are my initial findings… Every time Mercury orbits exactly 301 times, Earth orbits exactly 1,250 times
Every time Venus orbits exactly 246 times, Earth orbits exactly 200 times
Every time Mars orbits exactly 1000 times, Earth orbits exactly 1881 times (the Millennial planet?)
Every time Jupiter orbits exactly 50 times, Earth orbits exactly 593 times
Every time Saturn orbits exactly 61 times, Earth orbits exactly 1797 times
Every time Uranus orbits exactly 91 times, Earth orbits exactly 7645 times
Every time Neptune orbits exactly 14 times, Earth orbits exactly 2307 times
Ok numerologists…. These numbers mean anything?
I encourage anyone interested to approach researching this on different angles. Historically matching dates, Biblical meanings of the numbers, patterns developing within patterns… I’m confident there is much more here than coincidence… Can we work on this together and make it a “Team Effort” by Team Unsealed… and give all the glory to the awesome mathematician… Our creator who set all the heavens in motion exactly timed for us… for all who would believe! Basic Spreadsheet Proof:Planet Orbital Calculations.xlsx (535.86 KB) Easily Expandable Spreadsheet for all who want to help find God's "perfect Timing"Watchers Orbital Calculations.xlsx (882.07 KB) Are we getting excited yet?
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 2, 2017 7:24:06 GMT -6
But on an approximate basis, I suppose Beloved's numbers stand as well?
I've always been interested in the approximate numbers as well as the exact numbers. They can tell a story too. For instance, if God created the universe in perfection, they may have had very precise numbers to begin with, but then the sin factor, etc. caused decay.
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Post by whatif on Jun 2, 2017 8:29:56 GMT -6
Brad, your findings are amazing! God is so awesome--what a work He's done in designing the universe!
So we have a fabulous, intriguing mystery to enjoy investigating! It seems to me that Genesis 1:14-15 is exactly what we're seeing here: And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.”
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 10:43:09 GMT -6
Hey brad! I didn't use the sideral orbital period; I used the tropical orbital period rounded to two decimal places from NASA. That may explain the differences. I will be happy to help; I love math! Thanks to all of you for the warm welcome.
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Post by Gary on Jun 2, 2017 10:54:31 GMT -6
Wow, brilliant find beloved! Looks like EVERY planet except Uranus has its own "Planetary Jubilee" synchronization with earth. Fascinating.
I'm not worried about Uranus because it isn't visible.
What you discovered is a Jubilee synchronization with all five visible planets: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn - if of course you use the tropical orbital period.
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Post by brad on Jun 2, 2017 10:54:37 GMT -6
Hey Beloved! Now we have to find out which one to use... Sidereal ... or tropical... I looked on the nasa fact sheets... think your on to something... why did you chose tropical? any thoughts?
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Post by whatif on Jun 2, 2017 10:54:59 GMT -6
Is it just me, or does it feel to anyone else like the Lord has created the universe like a massive, multiple-dialed clock with all the components ticking perfectly in unison? I'm seriously getting a case of vertigo trying to imagine that incredible clock with the spinning pieces!
So, I'm wondering if the Lord, when He set the planets in motion in Genesis 1, wound each of the clock components to the zero point together and let them start counting their cycles from there. In other words, if we worked backwards through each of the planets' cycles, would we be able to determine the year of creation?
Okay, I'm going to take a little break and think on something else for a moment. Seriously... vertigo...
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Post by brad on Jun 2, 2017 11:16:19 GMT -6
Done a little digging Beloved... looks like the tropical period is slightly different than Sidereal period.... about 20 minutes per year which is huge over 6000 years... here's what google said:
The tropical year is the period of time for the ecliptic longitude of the Sun to increase by 360 degrees. ... The tropical year is often defined as the time between southern solstices, or between northward equinoxes. Because of the Earth's axial precession, this year is about 20 minutes shorter than the sidereal year.
I'm switching numbers in from nasa to the 3d number past the decimal for accuracy... lets see where this goes...
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Post by whatif on Jun 2, 2017 11:17:48 GMT -6
Okay, I think I'm better now. Did some dishwashing in the kitchen and let my brain settle down.
Do you suppose the sidereal and the tropical orbit cycles are both telling us something--perhaps like we see dual fulfillments in Bible prophecy?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 11:25:39 GMT -6
You're right Brad! I'm not really sure why I picked tropical... God perhaps? Anyway, maybe some logic for tropical is that it covers the seasons, like the Jewish calendar. The sideral year would get out of sync with the seasons, eventually, so maybe tropical is better? I'm not sure. Plus, our Gregorian calendar is based off the tropical year, I believe. I'll double check your math, Brad, once you post your results. Any thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 12:18:54 GMT -6
Folks.. here is data for 6000 years. Wow. This is really precise, becuase the only rounding I did was at the end. Can you guys help me sift through this? Planet Orbital Calculations.xlsx (712.24 KB)
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