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Post by brad on Jun 2, 2017 12:37:59 GMT -6
Hey all, not to throw a wrench in the works, but here is the spreadsheet using Beloved's Tropical numbers... they are similar, but as whatif suggests... they appear to be telling 2 different stories... The spreadsheet can be expanded down by selecting the bottom row, dragging down as far as you want and then hit the fill down button... Have honey doos to do and a graduation to attend... more later tonight! Tropical data orbital calculations: Planet Orbital Calculations tropical.xlsx (919.29 KB) |
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Post by brad on Jun 2, 2017 12:45:36 GMT -6
Wow... I just posted this and saw Beloved and I must be twins from a different mother! we both created essentially the same spreadsheet!
Go beloved go! Find the pattern!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 12:59:34 GMT -6
GUYS! Jupiter has a Sabbath cycle, even in Tropical years. Every seven Jupiter years, it is close to a whole number rotation.
7 Jupiter years- 82.997 Earth years
14 Jupiter years- 165.9950 Earth years
This makes sense, but still cool.
There is NO Jupiter Jubilee in tropical years. This should be double-checked. More later!
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Post by whatif on Jun 2, 2017 14:10:06 GMT -6
Brad and beloved, we're cheering you on and eager to read about all you discover! Keep up the excellent investigation! Go, Team, go!
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 2, 2017 19:50:53 GMT -6
Glad to see your findings! I believe both sidereal and tropical measurements surely mean things, and are relevant.
One other interesting thing about the planets is we have't talked about Pluto. I believe God did intend for us to count Pluto as a planet. My friend RJ recently did an amazing Bible study on Pluto after the space probe sent back new pictures and info about it.
The orbits of Pluto and Neptune intersect with each other precisely in two places, since they are not on the same plane, and they are also not exactly round. RJ pointed out that even though the orbits intersect, the two planets can not ever hit each other (even in the proverbial million years) because they are precisely synchronized to each other!
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Post by whatif on Jun 2, 2017 19:53:27 GMT -6
That is amazing, watchmanjim! Yes, I'd like to know how Pluto fits with the interesting cycles in the spreadsheets too!
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 2, 2017 20:00:25 GMT -6
If I can get his permission, I'll share RJ's findings with you. I may get him to join this board too.
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Post by brad on Jun 3, 2017 9:19:19 GMT -6
Sidereal Orbital Period, and Tropical Orbital periods.
I have to tip my hat to all the professional astronomers out there. Being a mechanic by trade, it’s a little humbling seeing all the complex formulas that astronomers use to figure out how the Universe works. There are different mathematical formulas for measuring years because literally EVERYTHING in our Universe is moving. If I am understanding this correctly, (If there are any astronomers out there, please correct me if I am wrong) The Tropical Period precisely measures complete orbits within our own solar system, and the Sidereal Period adjusts slightly to keep aligned with the stars which are also moving.
Here is a post from Wikipedia that explains it better.
There are many periods related to the orbits of objects, each of which are often used in the various fields of astronomy and astrophysics. Examples of some of the common ones include :
• The sidereal period is the amount of time that it takes an object to make a full orbit, relative to the stars. This is the orbital period in an inertial (non-rotating) frame of reference.
• The synodic period is the amount of time that it takes for an object to reappear at the same point in relation to two or more other objects (e.g. the Moon's phase and its position relative to the Sun and Earth repeats every 29.5 day synodic period, longer than its 27.3 day orbit around the Earth, due to the motion of the Earth about the Sun). The time between two successive oppositions or conjunctions is also an example of the synodic period. For the planets in the solar system, the synodic period (with respect to Earth) differs from the sidereal period due to the Earth's orbiting around the Sun.
• Also, the Earth's tropical period (or simply its "year") is the time that elapses between two alignments of its axis of rotation with the Sun, also viewed as two passages of the object at right ascension zero. One Earth year has a slightly shorter interval than the solar orbit (sidereal period) because the inclined axis and equatorial plane slowly precess (rotate with respect to the stars), realigning with the Sun before the orbit completes. The Earth's precession cycle completes in about 25,770 years.[citation needed]
My initial conclusion is that since the Sidereal Period formula adjusts with the stars to keep things in “sinc”, this would validate the Jupiter Jubilee cycle found to be within this type vantage point of measuring orbits.
While looking at the Tropical Period data (more accurate of our own solar system) Patterns are developing as well, But the Jupiter Jubilee cycle does not work… Beloved pointed this out first and I verified it… Whatif suggested that these 2 forms of measuring years might tell 2 different stories… and must not be discounted… I think when all is said and done, we will find God’s handiwork in every form of measurement.
More soon…
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Post by whatif on Jun 3, 2017 10:36:56 GMT -6
Awesome, brad! I'm so glad the Lord gave you the mind and the talent for studying this! What exciting discoveries!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 10:08:12 GMT -6
Hey guys! I'm still looking. Jupiter has a 3,000 year cycle:
253 Jupiter years - 3,000 Earth years
506 Jupiter years - 6,000 Earth years
I can add Pluto; however, it's tropical period is unknown. I will add its sideral period to my data, though.
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Post by whatif on Jun 4, 2017 11:45:53 GMT -6
Awesome, beloved! So glad to have an update on this exciting subject!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 13:34:36 GMT -6
Uh... guys, Jupiter doesn't have a jubilee, with sideral or tropical. Only with the approximate data, not with the precise data I am using. With the sideral data, the Jupiter Jubilee doesn't seem to exist. Double check me; here the spreadsheet: Planet Orbital Calculations 1.xlsx (708.52 KB) However, every 123 years with the sideral data Jupiter syncs: (Creation is 3977 B.C.) 123 Jupiter years - 1459 Earth Years - 2518 B.C. 246 Juipter years - 2918 Earth Years - 1059 B.C. 369 Jupiter years - 4377 Earth years - 401 A.D. 492 Jupiter years - 5835.999 Earth years - 1860 A.D. Maranatha! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 13:36:39 GMT -6
By the way, Theodor Herzl was born in 1860, the founder of modern Zionism.
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Post by whatif on Jun 4, 2017 14:55:21 GMT -6
We'll be awaiting further updates, beloved!
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 4, 2017 15:29:03 GMT -6
This is a study of the planets that my friend found online and has studied and preached on. It was not his original idea, and this site I'm linking was, I think, his key source. It studies the numerology of the planets as well as other symbolism to be found there. www.divinenines.org/ |
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