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Post by watchmanjim on May 31, 2017 19:00:58 GMT -6
A lot of the different prophecy people out there are talking about Planet X, or Nibiru. They are using this to explain many of the plagues of the Tribulation, etc.
We have talked about it some, like in the various threads about the red dragon.
This is a lengthy but interesting video about it.
These guys don't come to all the same conclusions we do, but they do go through this concept fairly systematically.
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Post by watchmanjim on May 31, 2017 19:08:46 GMT -6
As I said, they do have some interesting differences in opinion of the timeline. I don't think he's right about most of that.
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Post by kjs on May 31, 2017 20:01:35 GMT -6
I watched up to the first commercial break, seems to me they are survivalists-- meaning they expect people to go through most or even all of the tribulation.
Stockpiling food and water.
Is there really a Planet X or Nibriu .... I have no clue.....
There is something called wormwood, which may or may not be a planet.....
Could these two be related, maybe ... But I doubt we will really know until it happens....
Yes, I can sit through an action pack movie and the killings and destruction are all just make believe.
Chuck Missler says will be watching the happenings from the mezzanine ....
I do not know, but I doubt I would want to watch since these will be real killings and destruction...
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Post by watchmanjim on May 31, 2017 20:02:42 GMT -6
Yes, you are right about his stance, and I do agree with you, and disagree with him about that part of it.
Not sure about everything he has to say, but he has studied it out a great deal.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 21:23:28 GMT -6
I watched up to the first commercial break, seems to me they are survivalists-- meaning they expect people to go through most or even all of the tribulation. Stockpiling food and water. Is there really a Planet X or Nibriu .... I have no clue..... There is something called wormwood, which may or may not be a planet..... Could these two be related, maybe ... But I doubt we will really know until it happens.... Yes, I can sit through an action pack movie and the killings and destruction are all just make believe. Chuck Missler says will be watching the happenings from the mezzanine .... I do not know, but I doubt I would want to watch since these will be real killings and destruction... Well the exciting thing about all this is for the first time in our lives we may not have to wait long to find out. We're down to a few months. |
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Post by rt on Jun 8, 2017 7:08:45 GMT -6
Something I wonder about is at the sixth seal, you have both a darkened sun and a full moon that is red occurring alongside a great earthquake and stars falling from the sky. You also have people hiding in caves and among the rocks of mountains- a lot of people. (As many of you know I hold to a sixth seal pre-trib rapture view). At any rate you have these folks behaving in fear and hiding themselves from something they believe is at hand. They would have had to have had some kind of advance notice that caused them to hide themselves. I wonder if the gravitational issues caused by the close proximity of this so- called planet X could be responsible for the effects on earth? Lunar and solar eclipses do not happen at the same time normally, though the passage does not say that the darkened sun and red moon are caused by an eclipse, they could be the result of volcanic activity or some other strange event. The stars falling could be comets or asteroids or even angelic hosts. Then you have the great earthquake and many people behaving as if the apocalypse is at hand. Planet X could explain all of what is happening in this passage. It does make me wonder.....
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 8, 2017 7:21:16 GMT -6
Yes, I agree, it would fit. I guess we'll see!
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Post by rt on Jun 8, 2017 7:46:06 GMT -6
I found this video on the topic interesting. Though I am still unsure, the "evidence" given isn't really provable and is fairly speculative in nature. So I would not take any of it "to the bank".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 7:49:25 GMT -6
Maybe, but I would think it would be God Himself who works this calamity. God would want to show people it is Him working this calamity, to turn them to Him. If it is purely supernatural, people will freak out that God wants to destroy them. If this is the sixth seal, this would be the perfect way for Antichrist to fool the people, saying the End was over. If it's Planet X, it's just a naturnatural disaster. Plus, I highly doubt Planet X has such an elliptical orbit that it could get close enough to Earth to cause that.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 8, 2017 8:00:34 GMT -6
You could be right, beloved, but the orbit we are talking about is similar to the orbits of the comets. It does not have to be a planet per se, a comet-like celestial body would also work. The claims of its size and mass are also unsubstantiated--it could be smaller and still do all the same things. This picture illustrates the orbits of two comets as they pass through the solar system.  |
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 8, 2017 8:03:42 GMT -6
Another question that just popped into my head is, what would happen if two comets ever collided near the earth?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 12:15:53 GMT -6
Not to be argumentative, but it would have to be a planet,or one heck of a comet! The biggest nucleus was Hale-Bopp, I believe, and that was only 60 miles wide, not nearly big enough to kick off tectonic activity. If there was a planet big enough, we would probably see normal planetary positions shifting off course. Now, if meteors accompanied in, that's a different story. If two comets collided, they'd probably explode into a bunch of meteors/asteroids.
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Post by Gary on Jun 8, 2017 12:49:16 GMT -6
One interesting thing about comets is that though they are orders of magnitude smaller than planets and could not have any noticeable gravitational impact on earth, visually-speaking they can appear to be even bigger than the sun (at least in length). If a surprise comet came near enough and broke apart I can imagine something appearing like a "great red dragon".
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 9, 2017 6:03:47 GMT -6
Previously undiscovered comets can also sneak up on the earth unawares. They can be quite close before they are discovered sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 11:13:47 GMT -6
Alrighty, folks! So, you know about the Dragon Face at NASA? So, I read a theory that that is Planet X, but it's seen as a Dragon Face accidentally. So, that would mean Planet X is a dual system with some stuff beneath. So, the interesting thing is, this thing is pretty much EXACTLY where Jupiter is at September 23, 2017.
"I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and her offspring;
he shall bruise your head,
and you shall bruise his heel."
-Genesis 3:15
If Jupiter is Christ, then this might be the final, celestial fullfilment of God's prophecy.
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