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Post by Natalie on Nov 13, 2020 11:50:53 GMT -6
Some of my grandparents and one great grandma would argue against that.  Two lived pretty healthy lives into their mid 80s and my great grandma died at 92 still mentally strong. I think that kind of thinking is dangerous. Something I have been thinking lately -- evil is called good, but most people I know aren't purposefully saying, "Oh this is terribly wrong, so lets call it right." They really think that the thing is a good thing. It's a good thing to concentrate on the "youth" because that's where your best years are. It's a good thing to let those who are terminally ill end their lives. It's a good thing to terminate a pregnancy if the child will take more than they can give (thinking of handicapped or Down Syndrome). It's clearly that they are blinded by the enemy. |
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Post by bernie on Nov 17, 2020 16:30:59 GMT -6
Is The Second Lockdown Here? www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=4415I wondering how many of us are not planning to take the vaccine? I heard somewhere the Pfizer vaccine was not made with aborted baby tissue, but I don't have proof yet. Can we trust them if they tell us it does not have any kind of tracing element, or DNA altering properties? I'll probably hold off initially until more is known. I'm 65, so I may be offered it sooner than some, but I need more information. |
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Post by ksteven on Nov 17, 2020 16:56:28 GMT -6
bernie , Rev 18:21-24 21Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, “So will Babylon the great city be thrown down with violence, and will be found no more; 22and the sound of harpists and musicians, of flute players and trumpeters, will be heard in you no more, and a craftsman of any craft will be found in you no more, and the sound of the mill will be heard in you no more, 23 and the light of a lamp
will shine in you no more,
and the voice of bridegroom and bride
will be heard in you no more,
for your merchants were the great ones of the earth,
and all nations were deceived by your sorcery.
24And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been slain on earth.” "Sorcery" Greek: pharmakeia Word Origin from pharmakeuó (to administer drugs) Definition the use of medicine, drugs or spells. The healthcare system is hinged entirely upon pharmaceuticals today. Its potions and sorcery in a modern form. It's unnatural substances that alter out biology. Even if it isn't DNA altering, it is still sorcery. Many will be deceived by sorcery. The light of a lamp will no longer shine on them. The voice of the bridegroom and the bride will no longer be heard by them.There have been reports of vaccine test subjects stating that they can "no longer hear God." That "They killed God." Fetal tissue or not. DNA altering or not. Putting our lives in the hands of Sorcerers is never what God calls us to do. Just my interpretations. Trust the LORD to save your soul, even at the expense of your flesh. God Bless.
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Post by disciple4life on Nov 17, 2020 17:05:13 GMT -6
bernie, I heard the same thing, - and also in addition to what you mentioned, that when it first becomes available - [Maybe Jan or February 2021] that it would be for those "most at risk- over 70 and with other health issues/ compromised immune system. It will take time to produce 100,000,000 doses. I've also read several reports that they want to get it out to the 3rd world, developing countries first. **Just to be very honest - I'm convinced that the reasoning behind that is that as the vaccine is administered to 3rd world countries - it gives Big Pharma and politicians more time to see 'side effects' and there would be less damage control. Just like the way vaccines were given to thousands of kids in India, by Gates, and there were terrible side effects - and not a peep on US mainstream news. I don't think we will be here for 2 more years, but it will take time to make 7 billion doses, and they are saying that everyone will need at least 2 doses per person, maybe more.
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Post by bernie on Nov 17, 2020 18:25:22 GMT -6
ksteven & D4L, thanks for the input. Sounds like we'll have plenty of time before it's available. And if it's age 70 and above first that's great, I don't want to be rushed into it. I just wonder how true all the Gates stories are. His wife and him sure looked creepy in that one video when they seemed to hint something else is coming. I agree with you on not being here in 2 years. I think I'd be a little perplexed if we were still here in January of 2023, and sooner sound much better. Thanks again.
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Post by yardstick on Nov 17, 2020 22:17:27 GMT -6
Is The Second Lockdown Here? www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=4415I wondering how many of us are not planning to take the vaccine? I heard somewhere the Pfizer vaccine was not made with aborted baby tissue, but I don't have proof yet. Can we trust them if they tell us it does not have any kind of tracing element, or DNA altering properties? I'll probably hold off initially until more is known. I'm 65, so I may be offered it sooner than some, but I need more information. Check the patent: uspto.gov |
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Post by venge on Nov 18, 2020 8:08:47 GMT -6
bernie , Rev 18:21-24 21Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, “So will Babylon the great city be thrown down with violence, and will be found no more; 22and the sound of harpists and musicians, of flute players and trumpeters, will be heard in you no more, and a craftsman of any craft will be found in you no more, and the sound of the mill will be heard in you no more, 23 and the light of a lamp
will shine in you no more,
and the voice of bridegroom and bride
will be heard in you no more,
for your merchants were the great ones of the earth,
and all nations were deceived by your sorcery.
24And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been slain on earth.” "Sorcery" Greek: pharmakeia Word Origin from pharmakeuó (to administer drugs) Definition the use of medicine, drugs or spells. The healthcare system is hinged entirely upon pharmaceuticals today. Its potions and sorcery in a modern form. It's unnatural substances that alter out biology. Even if it isn't DNA altering, it is still sorcery. Many will be deceived by sorcery. The light of a lamp will no longer shine on them. The voice of the bridegroom and the bride will no longer be heard by them.There have been reports of vaccine test subjects stating that they can "no longer hear God." That "They killed God." Fetal tissue or not. DNA altering or not. Putting our lives in the hands of Sorcerers is never what God calls us to do. Just my interpretations. Trust the LORD to save your soul, even at the expense of your flesh. God Bless. It comes from: halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/they-ve-killed-god-i-can-t-feel-god-my-soul-is-dead-astrazeneca-halts-covid-19-vaccine-trials-after-second-volunteer-develops-neurological-problemsAnd I have yet to find any other actual source for this. It feeds into paranoia and anxiety in people. |
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Post by bernie on Nov 19, 2020 13:46:09 GMT -6
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Post by bernie on Nov 22, 2020 15:50:26 GMT -6
JD mentioned this in today's update. Some countries are looking at a, No Jab (vaccine) - No Job policy.
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Post by venge on Nov 22, 2020 21:08:03 GMT -6
JD mentioned this in today's update. Some countries are looking at a, No Jab (vaccine) - No Job policy. How is that different from schools? Kids need to be up to date on immunizations. Adults are no different |
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Post by disciple4life on Nov 23, 2020 10:21:49 GMT -6
JD mentioned this in today's update. Some countries are looking at a, No Jab (vaccine) - No Job policy. How is that different from schools? Kids need to be up to date on immunizations. Adults are no different It's categorically different on several levels. This virus is totally different from other things like smallpox, German measles, spanish Flu, ebola, etc. 94% of people recover. Since this plannedemic occured, the normal flu that kills approx 80,000 people in the US has disappeared, and hospitals are being paid for numbers of Covid deaths, so the tens of thousands of people get falsely labled as Covid deaths. The CDC website itself said that 94% of these people who allegedly died of Covid were elderly and already had at least 2 other health issues- diabetes, asthma, heart disease, high blood pressure etc. Most importantly- the vaccine is categorically different from every other vaccine in history. No other vaccine uses microdots
using special ink with near infra-red light particles [Luciferase Particles] that can be seen with a phone app and with the ability to record all your other information, blood type, medications, allergies, menstual cycle, and the abiliry to physically track the person.
This is not even including the other aspects of RNA,[Non-human dna] and the nanotechnology confirmed by multiple medical doctors, and the documented connection to Bill Gates foundation, and ID2020- RFID/ microchip.
Someone can say 'it's just scaring people" but doctors are putting their careers on the line, and being threatened and censored by big pharma and big tech.
If it were all baloney, then no need to threaten the doctors and remove it from You-tube, twitter and Facebook etc. |
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Post by mike on Nov 23, 2020 11:18:06 GMT -6
I just want to interject something. Just a bit of logical thought. In NJ I have heard the governor state "we will science to determine a,b,c..." Well according to the data and the claimed science we all know we are locked up, masked, and likely eventually forced to take a vaccine that is largely unproven and could carry unknown side-effects down stream. My interjection...As of this minute according to worldometer indicates just shy of 1.4 million deaths worldwide, shy of 263k deaths in the US (and 17k in my state of NJ) How many people die from cigarette smoking each year? According to the CDC 7 million worldwide, more than 480k (1,300 per day) in the US & 41,000 of which are due to secondhand smoke. Read the link! Straight on the CDC site. I must wear a mask to give someone/anyone something I no longer have (although my wife & I still have lingering effects as anti-bodies continue to build) ...OK forget Mike, some of my family, friends, neighbors must wear masks, separate themselves from those they love especially this holiday season to 'slow the spread'. BUTYet when we consider FACTS no one is stopping the spread of death caused by cigarettes. Not one peep about saving their lives, shutting down tobacco companies as they actually kill people with their products. Why not? Why are smokers allowed to continue to smoke damaging themselves and the lives of others voluntarily. Sure there are campaigns on smoking, but why not shut it down altogether to 'save lives'. Make an immediate impact Mr/Mrs governor Do not be deceived |
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Post by bernie on Nov 23, 2020 12:20:25 GMT -6
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Post by venge on Nov 23, 2020 14:12:09 GMT -6
I just want to interject something. Just a bit of logical thought. In NJ I have heard the governor state "we will science to determine a,b,c..." Well according to the data and the claimed science we all know we are locked up, masked, and likely eventually forced to take a vaccine that is largely unproven and could carry unknown side-effects down stream. My interjection...As of this minute according to worldometer indicates just shy of 1.4 million deaths worldwide, shy of 263k deaths in the US (and 17k in my state of NJ) How many people die from cigarette smoking each year? According to the CDC 7 million worldwide, more than 480k (1,300 per day) in the US & 41,000 of which are due to secondhand smoke. Read the link! Straight on the CDC site. I must wear a mask to give someone/anyone something I no longer have (although my wife & I still have lingering effects as anti-bodies continue to build) ...OK forget Mike, some of my family, friends, neighbors must wear masks, separate themselves from those they love especially this holiday season to 'slow the spread'. BUTYet when we consider FACTS no one is stopping the spread of death caused by cigarettes. Not one peep about saving their lives, shutting down tobacco companies as they actually kill people with their products. Why not? Why are smokers allowed to continue to smoke damaging themselves and the lives of others voluntarily. Sure there are campaigns on smoking, but why not shut it down altogether to 'save lives'. Make an immediate impact Mr/Mrs governor Do not be deceived , Mike, in response to cigarettes, they dont cause people to seek hospitalization due to flu like symptoms and breathing difficulties. If people smoke, we wont have a rush of people breathing it (second hand smoke) and going to a hospital whereas covid causes people to achieve flu like symptoms and those same people seek medical help which inundates hospitals and out patient services with too many sick to handle. This hampers their ability to do other things like surgeries and such. Its not just that covid can be deadly, its that it is very infectious and overwhelms hospitals. disciple4life, It really is not different. Children and people who travel are required to get vaccinated all the time. This is another case. Because the vaccine doesnt use a part of the virus itself but it gives the body the ability to shield itself from a protein it attacks...that makes it dangerous? They calculate 70% of the country will have it by May 2021. Add me to the list. Honestly, unless you have facts not from Breitbart, Fox news or some other place...actual facts which none of us have, there is no reason to call the current pandemic affecting the globe a plandemic. It only pushes conspiracy theories and fearmongering. As Christians, I know that is not what we want to do right? Healthy discussions based on facts...but not conspiracy theories. |
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Post by disciple4life on Nov 23, 2020 15:29:53 GMT -6
venge , I know mike is fully able to speak for himself, so I won't pretend to do that, but I simply want to say that I think part of the point he is making is that there are many many other things in our culture that are far more deadly, and yet no school closing, no state wide mandates, and no 24/7 hysteria rating the number of deaths by drug overdose, by people in car wrecks, and alcohol poisoning, and graphs showing all the people who died of suicide state by state. And this raises really underscores the point made my him, and myself and many others - what's driving the hysteria?? The real numbers are far far lower than the annual flu - so why have a vaccine for something that 94% of people recover from??? Unless it's the vehicle for something else. - another agenda. The hysteria and cooked numbers are driving the false narrative that this is worse than the black plague, and that's why everyone needs to have a vaccine. The plannedemic is the perfect opportunity to manipulate people into believing that all those who don't wear masks are "endangering the general public" and create the social behavior pressure so that these same people will use shame and intimidation against those who choose not to have the vaccine. It's already working. 2nd, as to my point, who's to say that if it's from CNN it's true [science] or MSNBC, but if it's from Breitbart or Fox, or some other source, it's clearly fake and is not evidence, or "not really science"?? That's rather Orwellian/ Socialist. I've got multiple articles from multiple sources including scientific journals and MIT, one of the leading research institutes in the world - confirming some of the horrible things about this vaccine, which causes many to be totally against it, and many more to be very concerned, and it raises the huge issue - if this is true, and the media is hiding this, what about the other things they are hiding/ censoring.?? Why threaten and censor flat earth bloggers, or people who worry about microwaves, or alien abductions, or any other 'bizarre theory' if it's not true or exposing a hidden agenda? For what it's worth, my brother, I hope you don't get the virus. I know about a dozen or more people who got it, and had a broad range of symptoms. My son had the Epstein Barre virus, and I consider it far far worse. He's been going to the doctor for months, and takes about 6-10 medications every day, just to get his immune system back up.  I'm not anti-vaccine - I think all those who want it should be able to have it, but I don't want the government forcing it. It's far less contagious for children than the flu, and I've had the flu once, and it was terrible, but I don't get a flu vaccine. In the 70's there was a huge virus, - swine flu or bird flu, and the government forced vaccines and thousands of people had horrible side effects. Some died and many suffered life-long side effects. One of my friend's son's has a diagnosed permanent condition as a direct result of 'so-called' safe vaccines. The fact that the big pharmaceutical companies are exempt from liability lawsuits should cause any and every person to be skeptical. What if car manufacturers were exempt from liability due to manufacture defects. ?? Or imagine if airlines had a clause that they were exempt from paying any damages to people who died as a result of a plane crash, if all toy makers were "exempt" .  www.scientificamerican.com/article/invisible-ink-could-reveal-whether-kids-have-been-vaccinated/www.bioopticsworld.com/biophotonics-techniques/article/14075403/nearinfrared-quantum-dot-dye-stores-vaccination-history-under-the-skinnews.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218Multiple doctors, immunologists, and scientific institutes confirm that this is true, and tell us that this is a real need, to store all kinds of medical information due to 3rd world countries where there is a lack of infrastructure. - It stores every kind of medical information about you, every allergy, medications, blood type, chronic diseases, blood sugar levels, ovulation cycles, and on and on, - and it's conveniently able to be scanned, so the real question is "Does anyone really believe that it can store and record a person's entire medical history, but not your financial information - bank account and credit score, or that this micro-dot, can not track you, just like a chip in a mobile phone.?"  **This from Mike's newest link - "The head of Australia’s Qantas Airways has said his airline plans to require all international travelers to be vaccinated against Covid-19 before boarding their flights, and predicted similar policies would be adopted worldwide."
www.rt.com/news/507525-qantas-vaccine-covid19-international-flights/
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Two lived pretty healthy lives into their mid 80s and my great grandma died at 92 still mentally strong. 
